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RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - username - 10-28-2015
Arguments for sending the other kids out of the room (might not have needed to call the cops if they'd done that early)...diffuses the situation, reduces the ego effect on the girl, they might have been able to talk some sense in to her and the other kids wouldn't have been "traumatized. Plus it might have taken a lot less class time.
Argument against: nobody there to film it.
Thoughts?
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - BlueTiki - 10-28-2015
Lights out and a beat-down works for me, too.
Besides . . . she'd still have her phone and could film it all!
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - sally - 10-28-2015
Traumatized? Did you watch the video? Other than the black girl saying wtf at the end those kids were as cool as cucumbers when the shit hit the fan. The Chinese kid sitting next to her didn't even bother to uncross his arms.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - username - 10-29-2015
(10-28-2015, 09:39 PM)sally Wrote: Traumatized? Did you watch the video? Other than the black girl saying wtf at the end those kids were as cool as cucumbers when the shit hit the fan. The Chinese kid sitting next to her didn't even bother to uncross his arms.
Just repeating the news heads. Besides, trauma=money potentially, right?
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - HairOfTheDog - 10-29-2015
(10-28-2015, 09:23 PM)username Wrote: Arguments for sending the other kids out of the room (might not have needed to call the cops if they'd done that early)...diffuses the situation, reduces the ego effect on the girl, they might have been able to talk some sense in to her and the other kids wouldn't have been "traumatized. Plus it might have taken a lot less class time.
Argument against: nobody there to film it.
Thoughts?
If I'd been the teacher and she kept mouthing off, I would probably have told her that she could stay if she wasn't disruptive and asked the administrator to call her parent and tell the parent to come down immediately.
If the girl wouldn't zip it so class could resume and still wouldn't leave her chair, then I would have asked the administrator or another faculty member to stay with her there and resumed class in another area (or dismissed them early if there was no room to be found).
In either case, the girl would have been formally suspended (or expelled if she has other infractions) in the presence of her parent before leaving the school that day.
I don't think police intervention and arrest was necessary to handle a mouthy disobedient teen. However, had she been threatening/endangering herself or others or doing drugs in the room or something of that sort, I'd have cleared the room immediately and called in the SRO to deal with her appropriately, with another witness present (with or without video rolling).
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - sally - 10-29-2015
I agree that had they called the parents first to either talk to her or come and get her that could have been avoided, but if the parents weren't available I wouldn't have played games with a high school student and gone out of my way to remove the rest of the kids from the room while someone else sat there to babysit her. My next step would be to have the officer come in and escort her out. That's not exactly what the moron deputy did though.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Midwest Spy - 10-29-2015
No one my age would've dreamed of acting like that in a classroom, but if you did, and got your ass kicked by a teacher or a cop, you certainly would've expected it.
Some of these kids are such assholes. I'm glad she got tossed around.
Sue me.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - HairOfTheDog - 10-29-2015
Hi stranger.
You brute!
P.s. If someone your age was still in 10th grade, they'd have bigger problems than getting tossed around for disobeying the teacher.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Midwest Spy - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 03:56 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Hi stranger.
You brute!
P.s. If someone your age was still in 10th grade, they'd have bigger problems than getting tossed around for disobeying the teacher.
Believe it or not, a recurring nightmare of mine is that I'm back in high school as a 40-something.
I wake up in a cold sweat.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - HairOfTheDog - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 04:00 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Believe it or not, a recurring nightmare of mine is that I'm back in high school as a 40-something.
I wake up in a cold sweat.
I believe it.
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Are you drinking lots of wine coolers while watching Billy Madison before bed?
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Midwest Spy - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 04:09 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:(10-29-2015, 04:00 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Believe it or not, a recurring nightmare of mine is that I'm back in high school as a 40-something.
I wake up in a cold sweat.
I believe it.
Are you drinking lots of wine coolers while watching Billy Madison before bed?
I'm drinking Old Fashioned's and watching Mad Men or Hell On Wheels.
You tell me.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - HairOfTheDog - 10-29-2015
You told me and I believe you, MS.
I've never watched either of the two shows you mentioned.
I know Gunnar has a mad man-crush on bearded John Hamm from Mad Men though.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Midwest Spy - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 05:08 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: You told me and I believe you, MS.
I've never watched either of the two shows you mentioned.
I know Gunnar has a mad man-crush on bearded John Hamm from Mad Men though.
Mad Men is such a well-written show.
I'm sure you know the premise:
Madison Avenue in the 1960's.
Hamm as Don Draper. Married, but still having flings on a weekly basis. That's not what it's all about, but again as I said, I'd be hard-pressed to name a better show from the past 10 years or so.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Duchess - 10-29-2015
I don't know any of those shows either. I've heard of Mad Men though.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Midwest Spy - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 05:18 PM)Duchess Wrote:Hell on Wheels is about Reconstruction-era railroad building. Specifically following the Union Pacific from Nebraska westward.
I don't know any of those shows either. I've heard of Mad Men though.
The main character Anson Mount, is another bearded guy with boots that I'm sure you'd love.
Again, a show that my wife and I have come to really like.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - username - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 03:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: No one my age would've dreamed of acting like that in a classroom, but if you did, and got your ass kicked by a teacher or a cop, you certainly would've expected it.
Some of these kids are such assholes. I'm glad she got tossed around.
She was destined to grow up in to a worthless thug anyway.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Midwest Spy - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 06:15 PM)username Wrote:(10-29-2015, 03:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: No one my age would've dreamed of acting like that in a classroom, but if you did, and got your ass kicked by a teacher or a cop, you certainly would've expected it.
Some of these kids are such assholes. I'm glad she got tossed around.
She was destined to grow up in to a worthless thug anyway.
She needs some discipline and respect for others.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Maggot - 10-29-2015
Diversity is never easy, especially when a person feels neglected.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - HairOfTheDog - 10-29-2015
(10-29-2015, 06:20 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:(10-29-2015, 06:15 PM)username Wrote:(10-29-2015, 03:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: No one my age would've dreamed of acting like that in a classroom, but if you did, and got your ass kicked by a teacher or a cop, you certainly would've expected it.
Some of these kids are such assholes. I'm glad she got tossed around.
She was destined to grow up in to a worthless thug anyway.
She needs some discipline and respect for others.
Well, if she successfully sues for the inappropriate violence that you call "discpline", maybe she'll enroll in charm school or something.
Seriously, I don't think that girl was taught a lesson in respect by the incident.
She deserved to be disciplined, no doubt. But, the way it was handled probably led her to disrespect authority more than respect it, and it cost the cop/coach his job.
RE: IS THIS BULLSHIT OR APPROPRIATE? - Maggot - 10-29-2015
Her and 2 million like her. The Ferguson effect is true. I can only see reality at this point. And I don't blame them. It's only human.