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RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Blindgreed1 - 03-11-2019
Fry Guy Wrote:MirahM Wrote:I mean obviouisly he has black friends, Fry Guy's pictures PROOVES THAT! Plus he hangs out with Asians, he is married to Melania, and Fry Guy does make a point that he calls both white people and black people stupid! Saying shit hole countries is not racist at all, because they are IN FACT SHIT HOLE COUNTRIES! Plus saying he wishes more people from Norway would immigrate here-TOTALLY FINE.
Correct.
He is reactive and has gone through life not needing to think through what he has to say well before he says it and not caring about offence. He is also arrogant, egotistical and a blowhard. Hardly endearing traits. But though these traits are not "nice" it does not make them bigoted.
I think these particular traits ordinarily would be distasteful I find in the highly charged environment where outrage and PC culture trades at a higher premium than it ought, having someone like Trump stomping all over that is not only a necessary evil but a thing of wonder
But... It's just so much easier to put the racist label on Trump. It's a shortcut to actually thinking for yourself. Why bother pondering when there is a bandwagon? Just label him racist as well as anyone who disagrees with you about anything. There... See how easy that was? Now you can call anyone who doesn't agree with you a racist moron. 
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Rootilda - 03-11-2019
Fryguy doesn't understand sarcasm.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Blindgreed1 - 03-11-2019
Rootilda Wrote:Fryguy doesn't understand sarcasm.
Especially if you don't use the "sarcasm" font, but sarcasm is getting harder and harder to discern on the internet because of all the wildly ridiculous implications and associations made today.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - sally - 03-11-2019
(03-10-2019, 04:58 AM)Duchess Wrote:(03-10-2019, 12:15 AM)sally Wrote: Stupid fucks.
Deaf, dumb and blind and calls other people stupid fucks.
I've also defended Obama when I felt he was being wrongly accused at times. But go on with your bad self and making up false claims that you have no proof of whatsoever just because you hate the guy.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 03-11-2019
(03-11-2019, 05:41 PM)sally Wrote: go on with your bad self and making up false claims
What am I falsely claiming?
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - sally - 03-11-2019
That he's racist.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Rootilda - 03-11-2019
There are very fine people on both sides.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Fry Guy - 03-11-2019
There were absolutely fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville incident. There were ALSO white supremacists on one side and Antifa on the other. Not all all people on either side belonged to either camp. Some of these people no doubt ARE fine
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Fry Guy - 03-11-2019
(03-11-2019, 01:50 PM)Rootilda Wrote: Fryguy doesn't understand sarcasm.
I understand sarcasm perfectly well and understood BlindGreed to be firing a broadside about Progressives textbook identity politics as a way to deplatform, denounce or censor. Call your opponent racist, misogynist, sexist and suddenly who knows or cares whether their positions were reasonable, truthful or factual, they are dismissable and to be ignored.
It is a cheap, intellectual lazy and dishonest and morally bereft way to argue or live tbh.
By taking this position with sarcastic intent, he and i both got the meaning and you simply got that sarcasm was involved.
Don't foist your idiocy at me Rootilda. Most on here would run intellectual rings around you.
Being that you are old and wisdom comes with age, i cringe at the intellectual vacuousness of your earlier years.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - MirahM - 03-11-2019
(03-11-2019, 06:54 AM)Fry Guy Wrote:(03-11-2019, 02:25 AM)MirahM Wrote: I mean obviouisly he has black friends, Fry Guy's pictures PROOVES THAT! Plus he hangs out with Asians, he is married to Melania, and Fry Guy does make a point that he calls both white people and black people stupid! Saying shit hole countries is not racist at all, because they are IN FACT SHIT HOLE COUNTRIES! Plus saying he wishes more people from Norway would immigrate here-TOTALLY FINE.
Correct.
He is reactive and has gone through life not needing to think through what he has to say well before he says it and not caring about offence. He is also arrogant, egotistical and a blowhard. Hardly endearing traits. But though these traits are not "nice" it does not make them bigoted.
I think these particular traits ordinarily would be distasteful I find in the highly charged environment where outrage and PC culture trades at a higher premium than it ought, having someone like Trump stomping all over that is not only a necessary evil but a thing of wonder
One thing is-people who are racist (and I believe Trump is by the way, most people are a little racist whether we like to be or not) anyway, BIG TIME RACISTS are using Trump as a means to be openly racist-where before they were hiding it. Now it is full out in the open and it may be cool and funny to see Trump do and say what he says, the big bafoon that he is-but when he doesn't take a bigger stance against some of these bad behaviors I find it is not good.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Fry Guy - 03-11-2019
They aren't using Trump to be a bigger racist than they were. What is happening is that every Trump supporter is being branded a racist and every defence of him or his policies as an endorsement of racism. There are ACTUAL racists (though small in representation) on both sides of politics but Trump has not endorsed or supported racists.
Look at the treatment of Steve King vs Representative Omar. Difference on how both sides deal with actual bigots.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - MirahM - 03-12-2019
1 racist is too many.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Fry Guy - 03-12-2019
(03-12-2019, 02:44 AM)MirahM Wrote: 1 racist is too many.
Of course. It is a stupid and ignorant position to be racist. People are not the sum of their skin tone or ethnicity or genital. Most people do not think in these terms
However Progressives do think in these terms. They think of people as holding truths, values and desires specific to these groups.
Far Right groups do too. Neither is good.
The moderate Conservative, Centrist and Classical/moderate Liberal generally doesn't. Most people view people as individuals.
I think efforts to call everyone holding a different or unwelcome opinion racist cheapens the term just like those calling all sexual encounters rape, cheapens that term.
I really think that Progressive driven bullshit needs to stop. If everyone is racist then no one is. The term loses it power and meaning and the person who disagrees with or perhaps even dislikes a specific person of another race is now considered on the same footing as someone seeking out racial genocide.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 03-12-2019
(03-11-2019, 07:01 PM)sally Wrote: That he's racist.
Not only is trump racist, so is much of the republican party.
3...2...1
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - BigMark - 03-12-2019
I'm a dogist because certain breeds of dogs tend to have certain behaviours.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Fry Guy - 03-12-2019
(03-12-2019, 04:46 AM)Duchess Wrote:(03-11-2019, 07:01 PM)sally Wrote: That he's racist.
Not only is trump racist, so is much of the republican party.
3...2...1
Proved by not a lot of much at all.
Where I see the most racism is from people professing to be inclusive and tolerant Progressives.
They look at people as the SUM of the colour of their skin or their ethnicity or the genitals and BASED ON THAT, will tell you what is in that person's heart, their values, their desires, their intent. It is disgusting. What is more they do this under the guise of smug moral superiority and intellectual genius.
Most people do not need to pander to such bigoted notions and see through this transparent hypocrisy. But enough about HoTD. lol.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - BigMark - 03-12-2019
Pretty girl bad.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 03-12-2019
(03-12-2019, 09:54 AM)BigMark Wrote: I'm a dogist because certain breeds of dogs tend to have certain behaviours.
I'm guilty of that as well.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - BigMark - 03-12-2019
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RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Maggot - 03-13-2019
The Trump administration is being praised for its significant and thoughtful process of cyber security improvements throughout the year. Kiersten Todt said. She was a part of Obamas old Cyber security team.