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RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 03:11 PM)username Wrote: I wake up every day and look forward to hearing what has come out of Trump's mouth or twitter account recently. It's a laugh a day (if you don't give a fuck about anyone else).
I don't want to feel bitchy everyday so I've embraced it all. I've got to see the humor in it & hope for the best. It's the only way I'm going to get through this..this..this fiasco.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - blueberryhill - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 12:13 PM)Duchess Wrote:
Rosie as Bannon. *snicker* Take note SNL.
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Love this! Just read where someone suggested (maybe on here) adding a red nose, bags under eyes, 3 day old beard, and looking like someone who had been on a 3 day binge....that more accurately describes Bannon....and people are sending cards to WH addressing him as President Bannon.......
I agree, every day we get more proof of the overall brilliance of the WH and you have to chuckle at how really comical, stupidity can be. i would imagine somewhere, someone is already casting for a movie on Election, 2016.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - sally - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 03:11 PM)username Wrote: Ummm, Sally? Not so sure about this home schooling thing. A car is a noun.
No shit, screwball. And a noun is a person, place or thing. To familiarize kindergarteners with nouns they have them list different people, places and things.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Clang McFly - 02-11-2017
(02-10-2017, 11:58 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: So, immigration from the 7 countries listed is the same as it was under the previous administration.........at least until the Trump administration gets its shit together and decides which of the three legal paths it wishes to pursue next:
(1) revise the EO to include the appropriate exemptions and rationale for the immigration/travel ban, and be prepared to defend it on standing and merit and constitutionality (what should have been done from the get-go, in my opinion);
(2) leave the EO as it is and appeal the ruling en-banc -- meaning 11 judges from the 9th circuit (most liberal in the country) would hear the case and either uphold the lower court's ruling to halt the ban or overturn the lower court and rule that the current EO is back in place;
(3) leave the EO as it is and appeal to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy who would likely refer the case to the full Supreme Court -- meaning the decision would be made by 4 left-leaning judges and 4 right-leaning judges (or they'd reach a tie, meaning the 9th circuit's decision to halt the ban would remain in place).
This is very interesting to me from a legal perspective. I think President Trump should go with path 1 and should already have been pursuing that path after the EO execution quickly fell apart. However, I suspect Trump won't admit to the mistakes he and his administration made, will continue to wrongly challenge the balance of powers, and will instead choose path 3.
My Dad seems to think Trump should be able to do what he pleases. It's within his Presidential powers granted by the Constitution.
I was like "What about the checks and balances put place by the Constitution between the executive,legislative, and judiciary branches of government?"
Dad doesn't seem to think checks and balances exist. Maybe its time to put Dad in a nursing home or mental institution.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - BigMark - 02-11-2017
He's already there.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - HairOfTheDog - 02-11-2017
Your dad and my mom would probably really hit it off, Clang, if your dad is also funny. My mom is seriously right wing, and she's also hilarious and loves to laugh.
Your dad's not unusual; I don' think it's time for the home yet. The polls show that the majority of hard-core Trump supporters don't think he should be subject to the same checks and balances as other presidents (and as the Constitution wisely demands).
People who voted for him mostly because they thought he was the lesser of two evils, and/or believed he was best qualified to bring back jobs, aren't supportive of him rushing matters of extreme importance and ignoring experienced expert advice, however. They want him to succeed, but won't cheer him when he's headed down the wrong path and/or abusing power.
Anyway, I read earlier tonight that President Trump doesn't plan to appeal the 9th circuit appeals court's ruling after all. Instead, he and his team reportedly plan to rewrite the executive order with clear rationale, appropriate and spelled-out exemptions, and review by those in-the-know. I hope that's true; that would be wise, in my opinion.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 12:56 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: People who voted for him
Some of them believe the Bowling Green massacre actually happened and the media wouldn't report it.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - HairOfTheDog - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 05:48 AM)Duchess Wrote:(02-11-2017, 12:56 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: People who voted for him
Some of them believe the Bowling Green massacre actually happened and the media wouldn't report it.
I know, but think (hope) that's a relatively small percentage of the population.
The Trump administration's insistence that unfavorable real news/facts = fake news, and utter bullshit which supports Trump's agenda = real news/facts........is pretty transparent and seems to be wearing thin for rational Trump supporters.
Have you seen footage at some of the town halls with Republican politicians and their constituents across the country? People are showing up and making it very very clear that they're pissed off about the Trump/GOP pledge to repeal ACA/Obamacare for so long without having a replacement plan or draft. They don't want to lose something better than they had before Obamacare and are calling out the inaction and lies some of their reps have been floating.
Those public call-outs by their constituents appear to be making an impact on the GOP. Trump said he'd rip up Obamacare on his first day in office. Didn't happen. Then, he and his reps said it would be repealed and replaced in his first 100 days. That's been walked back. Now, I'm starting to hear Republican politicians talking about "repairing' the Affordable Care Act instead of repealing and replacing it.
It's kind of interesting how the Tea Party grew largely out of similar town hall call-outs by anti-Obama Republicans who objected to the implementation of the ACA. 360.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 01:20 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I know, but think (hope) that's a relatively small percentage of the population.
Probably the same people who didn't understand that the Affordable Care Act & ObamaCare are one and the same.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - BigMark - 02-11-2017
Kinda like global warming and climate change.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - aussiefriend - 02-12-2017
(02-08-2017, 08:41 PM)FAHQTOO Wrote:(02-08-2017, 06:47 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:(02-08-2017, 05:58 PM)BigMark Wrote: Pence makes clang look straight.
I always look forward to your brilliant, in depth analysis of current events. uh....think Mr. Clang is already straight....but maybe I am just to old to appreciate your humor.... How much is your AARP membership?.......I heard that the older you are, the cheaper the price....Is that right?
If that's the case with AARP, they're probably paying you by now.
BBH, Mark is not really a Trumpet, he is just jerking your chain. F2 however is fucked in the head.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Carsman - 02-12-2017
Trouble in the White House? Maybe.
When the Donald first made noise two years ago that he was considering to run for POTUS, I said I didn't think he would be willing to "sacrifice" his life as would be required to be POTUS. I was surprised when he ran, and then shocked when he actually accepted the position.
As it turns out, being the commander in chief may not what President Trump thought it would be.
It has been reported today that aides to the president and close allies say that he is becoming frustrated with the challenges of being the most powerful man in the world.
That includes everything from congressional fights over his cabinet picks, to legal battles over his travel ban and rumors about a possible White House staff shakeup.
(He may not last 4 years by his own choosing!)
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-13-2017
Weird the way so many are presuming Flynn did his Russian biz behind the back of the Prez, the VP and anyone else involved.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - HairOfTheDog - 02-14-2017
(02-13-2017, 01:03 PM)Duchess Wrote:
Weird the way so many are presuming Flynn did his Russian biz behind the back of the Prez, the VP and anyone else involved.
I'm not presuming that, but that's the story being put out there. It will be interesting to see if a real investigation is carried out.
Flynn's out as of tonight -- he resigned; I don't know if he was gonna be fired or if he made the choice voluntarily. In his resignation letter, he apologized to Trump and Pence for giving them 'misleading and incomplete' information about his dealings with Russian officials before he was officially acting as National Security Adviser. His resignation letter contains worship-like sentiments towards President Trump.
I thought Flynn was an ignorant choice anyway. He was off his rocker during the campaign, same as Rudy, in my opinion.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-14-2017
(02-14-2017, 12:13 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I'm not presuming that, but that's the story being put out there. It will be interesting to see if a real investigation is carried out.
I didn't think you or anyone in Mock were presuming that, I was thinking out loud after reading conflicting reports within the administration. No one appeared to know what to say about this and there are rumors that security people from other countries, and maybe even our own, who are refusing to share information that has been gathered because there is no trust.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-14-2017
(02-14-2017, 12:13 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: In his resignation letter, he apologized to Trump and Pence for giving them 'misleading and incomplete' information about his dealings with Russian officials before he was officially acting as National Security Adviser. His resignation letter contains worship-like sentiments towards President Trump.
I've been reading about this. Made my day! Ahahaha! Given the daily lies I don't believe trump was oblivious to what was going down with Flynn. I think he knew Flynn was communicating with Russia and I believe he encouraged it. I also believe it's only a matter of time before the media puts the proof out there.
Republicans in Washington and many who follow the news from their own living rooms are remarkably quiet. Every single Republican that screamed EMAILS, BENGHAZI, PRIVATE SERVER won't say shit even when they have a mouthful. They deserve this.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - HairOfTheDog - 02-14-2017
(02-14-2017, 05:19 AM)Duchess Wrote:(02-14-2017, 12:13 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I'm not presuming that, but that's the story being put out there. It will be interesting to see if a real investigation is carried out.
I didn't think you or anyone in Mock were presuming that, I was thinking out loud after reading conflicting reports within the administration. No one appeared to know what to say about this and there are rumors that security people from other countries, and maybe even our own, who are refusing to share information that has been gathered because there is no trust.
I wasn't presuming that you were presuming that I was presuming that "). But........ I presume, based on history, that there are a few people here at Mock who were presuming Flynn was being honest about his Russia dealings and now probably presume he acted alone in violating policy and possibly law.
I'm sure the Democrats will push hard for a full investigation of Flynn's dealings with Russia before, during, and after the election with a goal of determining who in Trump's administration knew what and when.
Trump handed national security over to a guy who'd already been drained from the swamp by the previous administration for mismanagement, seemed full-on bonkers and screamed 'lock her up' at the RNC convention, spread fake news to millions about HRC and Podesta being child porn ring leaders out of a pizza joint in New Jersey (lots of people actually believed that crap), etc. Flynn was a terrible short-sighted hiring decision by Trump. And, the Flynn 'resignation' is very bad for Trump, no matter how one slices it.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - HairOfTheDog - 02-14-2017
Trump's had a very bad first month overall, in my opinion. Some of his major campaign promises are down the tubes already. He didn't rip up Obamacare on day 1 and can not have a replacement plan in place within a year, much less 100 days. His Muslim ban promise was reworked into a nation-of-origin ban and so poorly devised and executed that's it's on-hold by the judiciary. His pledge to help the working class by ridding D.C. of big money influence was negated by appointing Oil/Wall Street/Goldman Sachs execs to top cabinet posts. The public lies told by his Special Counselor (Kellyanne Conway) and Press Secretary (Spicer) to cover Trump's 'alternative truths' are so frequent and obvious that it's become comical...
Let's see if President Trump can regroup and start putting professionalism, integrity, and qualifications on par with personal loyalty in his administration. Whether he does or doesn't, I won't be surprised if Flynn is just the first of a few to get the boot early on.
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - Duchess - 02-14-2017
(02-14-2017, 01:54 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I wasn't presuming that you were presuming that I was presuming that "). But........ I presume,
I love you
RE: THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY - aussiefriend - 02-15-2017
Can someone just clear this up for me.......so, in your country now, if you vote in someone to be your President does that mean their whole family is then in power and making big decisions? I saw that Ivanka was sitting in the President's chair liaising with World Leaders. To me, it looked like TCM (total cringe material). It was odd, weird, and stupid.