(10-30-2021, 08:27 PM)MirahM Wrote: The white straight male is soooooo victimized. I feeel sooooooo bad for him. Oh my God. Life is sooo tough for them now.  Everybody else has it easier.

(10-31-2021, 12:53 AM)MirahM Wrote: I totally hear what you are saying.

So anti-racism is actually revers-racism. Got it.

Also what I hear you saying is that everyone SHOULD benefit out of life, or have the same benefits or opportunities as anyone else, or consequences for that matter.

It is not about being against each other or one another.

(10-30-2021, 10:20 PM)rothschild Wrote:

(10-30-2021, 08:27 PM)MirahM Wrote: The white straight male is soooooo victimized. I feeel sooooooo bad for him. Oh my God. Life is sooo tough for them now.  Everybody else has it easier.

Sounds like you support "anti-racism", which looks an awful lot like reverse racism.

Who benefits from playing people off against each other? Wouldn't it be more positive if we framed social justice as something that benefits everyone, rather than only those who are officially designated as being disadvantaged?

(10-31-2021, 01:37 AM)rothschild Wrote:

(10-31-2021, 12:53 AM)MirahM Wrote: I totally hear what you are saying.

So anti-racism is actually revers-racism. Got it.

Also what I hear you saying is that everyone SHOULD benefit out of life, or have the same benefits or opportunities as anyone else, or consequences for that matter.

It is not about being against each other or one another.

I think it's reverse racism, but I also think that blacks have a lot of legitimate grievances. I don't think "equality" is a feasible goal because it's antithetical to diversity (we should have a discussion about what "diversity" means, sometime), but I do think social justice is worth pursuing if it's predicated on fairness, and I suspect most of us could agree that a world in which a few people have control over how wealth is distributed is completely unfair, and undemocratic. Extreme economic disparity is unbalanced, and is indicative of an economics that is morally bankrupt.

It would be great if we could all disengage from the dichotomies that infest commercial media, because I don't think we're anywhere near as different as we've been led to believe. I think of it in terms of psychological hygiene, but whereas the corporate state wants to protect our minds by way of censorship, I prefer to do it by exercising discretion. And think about this: if the masses can't be trusted to exercise discretion with respect to information, how is that not a scathing indictment of our education system?

(11-01-2021, 10:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: Do y'all think racism is something that is learned at home?

Absolutely!

Both my folks were old timer racists. So of course I was raised as a racist!
I didn't like black folks, Jewish folks, Muslim folks, actually all folks that were not White, and or Christians.

However, as I got older and became an adult, I began to form my own opinions,
and saw people as people. And I stopped judging them by the color of their skin, or their religion, or even by the job they had.

It took me several years to truly overcome being a racist. Today, I try to evaluate (Judge to some) people for who they are inside, (character they possess) and how people conduct themselves, and how they treat others.
Not by skin color, or religion. I have friends, of color, and of all religions.

However,









I may still be a racist, as there are many White Christians I really really don't like!

(11-01-2021, 04:27 PM)BigMark Wrote: For me it was when I was singled out for harassment because of my race.

(11-01-2021, 10:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: Do y'all think racism is something that is learned at home?

(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

(11-01-2021, 09:09 PM)Maggot Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Yes by Blacks and Whites. Nobody has the market on Racism. I never realized it until the Black guys in the Navy fucked with me because I was white. They were from Chicago and I had a tough time rationalizing it. I always was taught that everyone was equal until then. It was devastating and the emotional scar's are deep. 

I still curl up into a ball and suck my thumb late at night alone thinking about it. But money might smooth things over. Just maybe this week.

(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

(11-01-2021, 10:55 PM)rothschild Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Here's another question to ponder: is welfare racist?

I don't mean racist against whites, I'm asking what the net effect of welfare has been on the lower income family structure. Has it helped, or did it increase dysfunctionality and lead to the drug/gang violence that is epidemic in poor communities?

(11-02-2021, 12:23 PM)Carsman Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 10:55 PM)rothschild Wrote:

(11-01-2021, 08:57 PM)MirahM Wrote: way to answer the question.

At least Cars, Sally and Mark can answer it.

I think it is definitely learned.

Here's another question to ponder: is welfare racist?

I don't mean racist against whites, I'm asking what the net effect of welfare has been on the lower income family structure. Has it helped, or did it increase dysfunctionality and lead to the drug/gang violence that is epidemic in poor communities?

Initially, welfare was a good idea to help low income families to help make ends meet. Back then, people had pride, and wanted to stand on their own two feet, so they got off welfare as soon as they were able to.
However, over the years, it seems that people who were raised on welfare,
grew up seeing that people didn't have to go to work at low paying jobs, and could just receive welfare instead. So yes, those raised on welfare, stayed on welfare, and in those cases with plenty of idle time on their hands, it could/did lead to drug/gang violence.
IMO.