(05-09-2012, 09:07 PM)gurl2323 Wrote: of course the court is delaying , from my understanding samuel williams has to TWO very good lawyers and they are building up there THEIR defense... with his good lawyers and ''some'' lack of evidence its hard to build the case ... example ''Casey anthony'' trial .. WE all know she did it but the evidence is where they lacked.NO there was plenty of evidence, the jury were complete idiots. now that the DNA has not matched to him WHO SAYS?? , can they still place him at the crime ?? or just at the party ???he was not at "party"

And also Pettaways trial will not be Delayed like Williams being that in the beginning of the Trial he signed a paper that waived the timing on his end.. he basically wants what he can get . He dont doesn't have lawyers he has Public Defenders. and those people IMO suck and you know this because...? ! so he has to take what he can get to where Sam who did go to College and did study about the Law they study law at CC?? hahaha , knows that it takes valuable time to build up this case that cant mess this up , because one slip up can affect there THEIR whole Defense mechanism.

is this a product of a toledo college??

(05-09-2012, 09:45 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(05-09-2012, 09:07 PM)gurl2323 Wrote: of course the court is delaying , from my understanding samuel williams has to TWO very good lawyers and they are building up there THEIR defense... with his good lawyers and ''some'' lack of evidence its hard to build the case ... example ''Casey anthony'' trial .. WE all know she did it but the evidence is where they lacked.NO there was plenty of evidence, the jury were complete idiots. now that the DNA has not matched to him WHO SAYS?? , can they still place him at the crime ?? or just at the party ???he was not at "party"

And also Pettaways trial will not be Delayed like Williams being that in the beginning of the Trial he signed a paper that waived the timing on his end.. he basically wants what he can get . He dont doesn't have lawyers he has Public Defenders. and those people IMO suck and you know this because...? ! so he has to take what he can get to where Sam who did go to College and did study about the Law they study law at CC?? hahaha , knows that it takes valuable time to build up this case that cant mess this up , because one slip up can affect there THEIR whole Defense mechanism.

is this a product of a toledo college??

(05-09-2012, 09:45 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(05-09-2012, 09:07 PM)gurl2323 Wrote: of course the court is delaying , from my understanding samuel williams has to TWO very good lawyers and they are building up there THEIR defense... with his good lawyers and ''some'' lack of evidence its hard to build the case ... example ''Casey anthony'' trial .. WE all know she did it but the evidence is where they lacked.NO there was plenty of evidence, the jury were complete idiots. now that the DNA has not matched to him WHO SAYS?? , can they still place him at the crime ?? or just at the party ???he was not at "party"

And also Pettaways trial will not be Delayed like Williams being that in the beginning of the Trial he signed a paper that waived the timing on his end.. he basically wants what he can get . He dont doesn't have lawyers he has Public Defenders. and those people IMO suck and you know this because...? ! so he has to take what he can get to where Sam who did go to College and did study about the Law they study law at CC?? hahaha , knows that it takes valuable time to build up this case that cant mess this up , because one slip up can affect there THEIR whole Defense mechanism.

is this a product of a toledo college??

(05-04-2012, 07:34 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(05-04-2012, 06:14 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: fascinating memo by defense in response to prosecutor.

PDF document.

http://lcapps.co.lucas.oh.us/obpublicaccess//ViewDocument.aspx?docID=nZ6bR74LvfShC1HShy64HaLZuqBMgCu%2b&chksum=4eebbba8cee7121ec5e12c3a141a9e69

New DNA info NOT connected to Williams. I hope this means they have another hit on another known entity.

208 witnesses for the state. WOW. Seems like a lot of those witnesses would be the reluctant variety.

LC, do you know anything about Madrid and if she is going to add anything of value in the prosecution?

thanks Dirtlady. all the PDFs you have posted have been good.

i said this months ago, they can't execute the retarded so they will try to establish a low IQ, under 75.
oh it also seems continuance denied. in pettaway.
and Bates won't recuse himself.

sorry 'gurl', but ignorant people who can't spell C-A-T have no cred with me. anyone who spells girl as gurl is some pitiful sad fool.



toledo blade
Attorneys for a Toledo man charged in the 2011 asphyxiation deaths of a Springfield Township couple are awaiting an opinion to determine whether Cameo Pettaway has a mental disability, and so would be ineligible for the death penalty.

Defense attorney Mark Geudtner said Wednesday in Lucas County Common Pleas Court that a report is forthcoming based on evaluations of Mr. Pettaway. He said depending on the information in that report, the defense would file the appropriate motions.

Judge James Bates noted the U.S. Supreme Court has made it clear that people with mental disabilities are not subject to execution.

Mr. Pettaway, 22, of 133 Essex St., is charged with two counts of aggravated murder, one count of aggravated burglary, and two counts of kidnapping. He faces the death penalty if convicted.

Mr. Pettaway and co-defendant Samuel Williams, 24, of 1626 Kelsey Ave. are charged in the Jan. 31, 2011, asphyxiation deaths of Lisa Straub and Johnny Clarke. The pair were found bound by duct tape, with plastic bags over their heads, in the home of Ms. Straub's parents on Longacre Lane home.

Both men have trial dates set for May 29.

Judge Bates referenced the upcoming trial date and asked both the prosecution and defense be ready to file memorandums with the court regarding the issue if necessary.

Also at Wednesday's court appearance, Judge Bates ruled on recent motions filed by both sides.

Mr. Pettaway's lawyers filed a notice of defendant's withdrawal of Remittal of Disqualification, stating that Judge Bates should disqualify himself as the judge in the case.

Specifically, the notice stated Mr. Pettaway did not "genuinely understand the purpose and significance of the Remittal of Disqualification when he signed it."

Because Judge Bates is married to Lucas County Prosecutor Julia Bates, a remittal document is signed by each defendant whose case is assigned to him.

The remittal states the defendant is aware Judge Bates is the husband of Mrs. Bates and that "it is hereby agreed that the perceived conflict of interest is immaterial and the Judge may participate in the proceedings."

The remittal was signed Oct. 25 by Mr. Pettaway and his lawyers, Mr. Geudtner and Merle Dech.

Judge Bates said Wednesday that in the months since the remittal was signed, he has not talked about the case with his wife. He further said he has ruled on many motions in the case.

The judge denied the notice saying that "nothing has changed as far as this court is concerned" since the remittal was signed. That decision can be appealed.

The judge also denied a request by the prosecutor's office to continue the trial date.

Jeff Lingo, chief of the criminal division said the request was a result of the state having not yet received expert reports from the defense that are due 21 days before trial.

Judge Bates noted any evidence not complying with the rules might be excluded at trial.

A motion to continue the trial is also pending in Williams' case before Judge Dean Mandros.

(05-10-2012, 01:27 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Was anybody able able to read the documents that I posted earlier????? I can't open them on the Lucas County site or where I posted them here! But, I was sure that Pettaway(lawyer) has asked for a 45 day delay.

(05-09-2012, 07:41 PM)shitstorm Wrote: violent criminals who are probably animal abusers. Fuck, that makes me mad.

yee haa!
i adore this judge.