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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 07-16-2012

thanks DirtLady. Blowing-kisses

so the judge will stall and wait until maybe a verdict & sentencing hearing. hahaha

edit, i was just told judge will rule tomorrow.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-16-2012

http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/07/16/Judge-Bates-to-rule-Tuesday-on-murder-suspect-s-mental-state.html

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 07-16-2012

blade

Lucas County Common Pleas Judge James Bates said he will decide Tuesday whether an East Toledo man charged in the asphyxiation deaths of a Springfield Township couple is mentally disabled.

His finding will determine whether or not Cameo Pettaway, 23, of 133 Essex St., could be sentenced to death if found guilty of the murders of Lisa Straub, 20, and her boyfriend, Johnny Clarke, 21.

Judge Bates heard testimony Monday from John Matthew Fabian, a forensic psychologist who found through testing, interviews, and examination of school and medical records that Mr. Pettaway is mildly mentally retarded. Charlene Cassel, a clinical psychologist with the Court Diagnostic and Treatment Center also testified, saying the tests she conducted and an interview with Mr. Pettaway led her to determine he is not mentally retarded.

Judge Bates said he would announce his decision at 1 p.m. Tuesday before jury selection is scheduled to begin in Mr. Pettaway’s case.

Mr. Pettaway and co-defendant Samuel Williams, 24, of 1626 Kelsey Ave., are charged with two counts of aggravated murder, one count of aggravated burglary, and two counts of kidnapping stemming from the Jan. 31, 2011 deaths of Ms. Straub and Clarke. The two victims were found dead in Ms. Straub’s parents’ Longacre Lane home, and autopsies showed both had died from asphyxiation. Parts of the home had been ransacked.

Attorneys for Mr. Pettaway had argued that their client was ineligible for the death penalty because he is developmentally disabled. Executing a person with developmental disabilities was declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2002, although the high court left it to death-penalty states to define developmentally disabled in this context.

In December, 2002, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled that the definition requires “(1) significantly subaverage intellectual functioning, (2) significant limitations in two or more adaptive skills, such as communication, self-care, and self-direction, and (3) onset before the age of 18.”

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 07-16-2012

Heather Miller-Klinger has now joined 13 abc News Toledo, she is Assignment Manager, she was granted approval for Court Reporting of trial, she used to be with WUPW Fox Toledo, I think Heather will do a fantastic job of reporting! I've met her a couple of times. We need all the reporters we can get on these trials!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-16-2012

http://www.13abc.com/story/19029871/2012/07/15/springfield-twp-murder-suspects-trial-set-to-begin

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-16-2012

above post has good video!!!!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-16-2012

Official announcement! I'm going to start drinking. Of course you want to know why. Blade says hearing was to determine if Pettaway could get the death sentence if guilty. I think Blade is correct. Channel 13 says it was to determine if he is competent to stand trial. I'm so frustrated that I just typed this stupid post twice. Just so you know, my family is questioning my sanity

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 07-16-2012

(07-16-2012, 06:41 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Official announcement! I'm going to start drinking. Of course you want to know why. Blade says hearing was to determine if Pettaway could get the death sentence if guilty. I think Blade is correct. Channel 13 says it was to determine if he is competent to stand trial. I'm so frustrated that I just typed this stupid post twice. Just so you know, my family is questioning my sanity
well we know you're quite sane!

and it was to determine if he could be executed if found guilty.

have a couple drinks anyway! hahahaha

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 07-16-2012

(07-16-2012, 06:11 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: above post has good video!!!!

Interesting interview! Dr. Charlene Cassel has been involved with Toledo Court System for 36 years. I'd say she's seen and heard it all and she knows her stuff!!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-16-2012

I know that this won't stay open long, but what is this about? Didn't want to neglect Williams. http://lcapps.co.lucas.oh.us/obpublicaccess//ViewDocument.aspx?docID=ZW%2b7IwRaQMzJ4i%2fQ0k4XTRtUi9JHvWVG&chksum=b3ba012aed27721f847093868f17eeaa

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 07-16-2012

(07-16-2012, 06:58 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: I know that this won't stay open long, but what is this about? Didn't want to neglect Williams. http://lcapps.co.lucas.oh.us/obpublicaccess//ViewDocument.aspx?docID=ZW%2b7IwRaQMzJ4i%2fQ0k4XTRtUi9JHvWVG&chksum=b3ba012aed27721f847093868f17eeaa

it means williams' defense intends to impeach the witness' veracity with their criminal records.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-17-2012

NEW BLADE ARTICLE READ COMMENTS http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/07/17/Expert-questions-mental-capacity-of-slaying-suspect.html

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-17-2012

WTOL http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/19044063/blade-expert-questions-mental-capacity-of-springfield-twp-murder-suspect

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 07-17-2012



I just found this at the Blade online - RELATED ARTICLE: Expert questions metal capacity of slaying suspect

C'mon, Blade. Jeezus. A simple six letter word. 78

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 07-17-2012

I have a neighbor who can't read, very nice in her 50's . I would guess that her IQ is low. Another young man who I would guess, has a low IQ is in and out of jail all the time, two arrests in 24 hrs. last week. Both of these people know right from wrong!!!!! This IQ thing is bull shit! Come to think of it, I think mine is on the low side!!!!!!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 07-17-2012

(07-17-2012, 11:59 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: I have a neighbor who can't read, very nice in her 50's . I would guess that her IQ is low. Another young man who I would guess, has a low IQ is in and out of jail all the time, two arrests in 24 hrs. last week. Both of these people know right from wrong!!!!! This IQ thing is bull shit! Come to think of it, I think mine is on the low side!!!!!!

My father can't read/spell very well either but my father has been an electrician all my life. My father is a jack of many trades. That man is the best man I know. Yes, my fatheer knows right from wrong as well. These two fucks are not fucking retarded. That shit grips my ass to no end.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 07-17-2012

Executing a person who has developmental disabilities was declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2002, although the high court left it to death-penalty states to define developmentally disabled in this context.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - FourOneNine - 07-17-2012

(07-17-2012, 11:37 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: NEW BLADE ARTICLE READ COMMENTS http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/07/17/Expert-questions-mental-capacity-of-slaying-suspect.html

Facebook comments are blocked at my work, could someone please post them. I have a feeling they might be edited later if they're that good.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 07-17-2012

just ruled:

An East Toledo man charged in the asphyxiation deaths of a Springfield Township couple is mentally retarded and therefore could not be sentenced to death if found guilty of the murders a judge ruled today.

Lucas County Common Pleas Judge James Bates made the determination about Cameo Pettaway, 22, of 133 Essex St., after hearing testimony Monday from two psychologists who evaluated Mr. Pettaway.

The ruling means prosecutors cannot seek the death penalty against Mr. Pettaway if a jury finds him guilty in the asphyxiation deaths of Lisa Straub, 20, and her boyfriend, Johnny Clarke, 21. The two victims were found dead Jan. 31, 2011, in the Longacre Lane home of Ms. Straub’s parents.

Executing a person who has developmental disabilities was declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2002

Jury selection was to begin this afternoon for Mr. Pettaway. That process began this morning before Judge Dean Mandros for co-defendant, Samuel Williams, 24, of 1626 Kelsey Ave., who, like Mr. Pettaway, is charged with two counts of aggravated murder, one count of aggravated burglary, and two counts of kidnapping.

http://www.toledoblade.com/news/2012/07/17/Judge-rules-Pettaway-can-not-face-death-penalty-in-murders-of-Springfield-Township-couple.html

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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - FourOneNine - 07-17-2012

Fuck that