(07-18-2012, 05:31 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Perhaps Lisa purchased something from BBB after her parents were gone, so
they wouldnt be aware of any BBB bags being in the residence. I wonder if
they had a trash can inside their garage that those bags couldve been
retrieved from when the time came to need them.
I was really taken aback by the unknown DNA, and someone said that
those were the real killers, because of the way that sort of thing works
in the drug world...making the ones that sold it, do the deed for those to
whom the money is owed. That really got me thinking....
What other females have been mentioned...and have had DNA taken?
Specifically that one female that was arrested and held....cannot recall her
name...but the whole situation with her was pretty sketchy.

(07-18-2012, 03:55 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: I think Mustang will do a good job too.

I look forward to reading his posts regarding it!

(07-18-2012, 12:28 PM)Pico45 Wrote: I read LC's post about Maytee being barred. I heard she had thrown a fit recently and that is why they banned her. Anyone know for sure?

She can only be around when she testifies. Good to see the judges not buying in to her crap!

As for Judge Bates ruling. This is why I left Toledo. All he is, is a career politician. Must be up for Re-election and needs to make nice with the African-American community.

(07-18-2012, 06:11 PM)Pico45 Wrote: they had Destiny in PC. Perhaps she made a deal and it will come out during the trial. Immunity? I wonder!

(07-18-2012, 12:38 PM)justme Wrote: Wow--sorry this so long!! I am not very good at this so I hope it makes sense. I'm sure I forgot a lot --- maybe if you fellow mockers ask questions it will jar my memory. Please forgive any spelling/punctuation errors!!

I need a drink after all of this!! Looking forward to your comments!

(07-18-2012, 06:56 PM)pplrcrazy Wrote: I don't know if this is possible and it might even sound stupid but what if when big John and Maytee found them with the bags and tape on, they were unable to get some of it off so in a frantic state they used their teeth to get it off their hands and legs?

(07-18-2012, 07:36 PM)NightOwl Wrote: All of the statements were interesting Lisa's bedroom door locked and broken was puzzling, why would her door be locked? It sounds like she never did get a shower when she came home as stated earlier on Mock.
Maybe she ran to hide in room IMO

.... Lisa dying first is terrible, so they must have autopsy evidence to prove that, I imagine similar DNA findings on Lisa?

(07-18-2012, 08:15 PM)soothsayer Wrote:

(07-18-2012, 07:36 PM)NightOwl Wrote: All of the statements were interesting Lisa's bedroom door locked and broken was puzzling, why would her door be locked? It sounds like she never did get a shower when she came home as stated earlier on Mock.
Maybe she ran to hide in room IMO

.... Lisa dying first is terrible, so they must have autopsy evidence to prove that, I imagine similar DNA findings on Lisa?

I imagine they know Lisa died first due to liver temp (her dead body was colder than his). I imagine, too, her head wound contributed to her earlier demise, though it could just be that they put the bag on her first, and waited some time before putting one on Johnny. Maybe her head wound is even a result of being hit by her bedroom door when they kicked it in.

Like others, I'm worried about the lack of hard evidence and the other mystery dna. Maybe the case will come together on circumstantial evidence -- and we'll see clear motive and stuff. Hope so. It would be hard to take yet another duct-tape related case failing to come together.

(07-18-2012, 06:11 PM)Pico45 Wrote: Thanks NightOwl.

FWIW....I heard during a recent trip back to the Glass City that they had Destiny in PC. Perhaps she made a deal and it will come out during the trial. Immunity? I wonder!

(07-18-2012, 08:09 PM)justme Wrote: Where to begin--the photo of Johnny--it was shown fast but it looked like the bag had been ripped and tape still on. Also about female DNA being Maytee's??---I am pretty sure she never went in the house.

It's not definate that only family and media will be the only ones let in next week but heard from very reliable source that they are expecting a huge crowd. The families alone get 5 seats a piece (15 seats for 3 families), Should have counted but I am thinking there are only 25-30 seats. Today there wasn't much media there --- I am betting that will change when they start questioning witnesses. Anyway---I am going to head down there and see what happens.

About Lisa's bedroom door being kicked in--I thought it sounded like she was hiding or trying to get away from someone.

Tiff's phone call: Its on record that he recieved her call at 10:45 and that was last phone call recorded on his phone. Apparently when TW was interviewed she told detectives that Johnny said " I'll call you back Tiff" and of course he never did.

Don't forget all this today was only opening statements. If I was on the jury I'd be waiting for the prosecution and defense to show me the evidence to prove that statements today were really what happened. In other words--IMO they have a lot of explaining to do.