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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 02-19-2015

So it's on till eternity. NOTE the # of text messages.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-18-2015, 12:12 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: I love when you get anonymous emails.


I got another one as well as a screen shot showing Maytee threatening Tiffany the day before the shooting. Given the timing it sure looks like it was planned. Whatta dummy for putting all her threats in print. 78

Also, it's ah-mazing the way her heart problem isn't an issue until law enforcement is involved.

I seen the mugshot for most wanted. No, she is not on the run or missing. She is at the hospital with her outrageous claims of heart and back issues. I can bet that her lawyer is also helping feed into this injustice by demanding her to stay put....cops don't want or need any law suits so it's just easier for them to let her sit in the hospital. (Plus, Maytee has so many enemies that she would be beat down in jail.) The witch still thinks that she is still in control....watching everything unfold on the news only allows her to plan her next move. I'll bet that this is not the first crime that the dirty cop and his buddy Maytee has committed together...it's just the first time that they have been caught. Frank and Maytee are not related...just friends.
This attachment is from Maytee's Justice page just one day before shooting at Tiffany, it shows threats towards Tiffany.

[Image: MESSINGWITHTIFFinDec_zpsc93d89b0.jpg]

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 03:17 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: NOTE the # of text messages.


I did. Thousands. It's so bizarre to read many of them. They read like messages a woman would send a lovah, not like what a mother would say to her son.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 02:58 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: The Toledo Blade is 20 1⁄2 inches long and 12 inches wide. The most wanted is 17 inches long. Point is that you can't miss it. Maytee is rather normal when she is being televised. Also, I have been trying to search.to no avail, to see if she has been paying all this time to be able to post on legacy.The Blade doesn't have any way to call them. I am quite anal and love to dig in. Remember I called the Cemetery waaay back to get some answers as to why they were allowing that God awful mess at the grave.To surprise LC. I talked my now deceased husband into going with me to take photos. They succeeded in making a nice place look ghetto. Hell, for all we know. maybe Ramirez was getting laid. Blowing-kisses

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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ramseycat - 02-19-2015

Good grief. Listen to the way they talk. White trash thugs.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015



What does "steel hell" mean? Is that referencing a gun?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 07:18 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-18-2015, 12:12 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: I love when you get anonymous emails.


I got another one as well as a screen shot showing Maytee threatening Tiffany the day before the shooting. Given the timing it sure looks like it was planned. Whatta dummy for putting all her threats in print. 78

Also, it's ah-mazing the way her heart problem isn't an issue until law enforcement is involved.

I seen the mugshot for most wanted. No, she is not on the run or missing. She is at the hospital with her outrageous claims of heart and back issues. I can bet that her lawyer is also helping feed into this injustice by demanding her to stay put....cops don't want or need any law suits so it's just easier for them to let her sit in the hospital. (Plus, Maytee has so many enemies that she would be beat down in jail.) The witch still thinks that she is still in control....watching everything unfold on the news only allows her to plan her next move. I'll bet that this is not the first crime that the dirty cop and his buddy Maytee has committed together...it's just the first time that they have been caught. Frank and Maytee are not related...just friends.
This attachment is from Maytee's Justice page just one day before shooting at Tiffany, it shows threats towards Tiffany.

[Image: MESSINGWITHTIFFinDec_zpsc93d89b0.jpg]

murked
To murk = to kill
To get murked = to be killed

Steel hell meaning jail?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 10:26 AM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: murked
To murk = to kill
To get murked = to be killed

Steel hell meaning jail?


Thanks! I'm so uncool. I didn't really know but it makes sense. I thought it might mean gun. 78

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 10:28 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-19-2015, 10:26 AM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: murked
To murk = to kill
To get murked = to be killed

Steel hell meaning jail?


Thanks! I'm so uncool. I didn't really know but it makes sense. I thought it might mean gun. 78

That was a guess on jail Smiley_emoticons_smile

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015



I hate to sound so naive but I didn't think police officers could still police if they had priors. Here's a list of Lt. Ramirez' -

CRA-15-02069-0103 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 FELONIOUS ASSAULT WEAPON OR ORDNANCE PENDING none
CRA-15-02069-0203 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE ALTER DESTROY CONCEAL OR REMOVE RECORD PENDING none
CRA-15-02069-0303 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE DESTROY EVIDENCE/WITHHOLD TESTIMONY PENDING none
CRB-01-13044-0101 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 DOMESTIC VIOL;KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMP TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBER NOT GUILTY 04/05/2002
CRB-01-13517-0101 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 INTIMIDATION OF ATTORNEY VICTIM OR WITNESS IN CRIMINAL CASE DISMISSED 01/06/2003
CRB-00-12278-0102 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 DOGS;FAILURE TO REGISTER DOG OR KENNEL GUILTY 06/29/2000
CRB-00-12278-0202 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 DOGS;CONFINEMENT/DANGEROUS/VICIOUS GUILTY 06/29/2000
CRB-86-09915-0101 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DISMISSED 08/12/1986
TRD-13-18366-0101 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 TURNING RULES;TURNING LEFT-YIELD RT WAY DISMISSED 06/20/2013
TRD-85-06374-0101 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 BROKEN, CRACKED, NONTRANSPARENT GLASS GUILTY 02/20/1985

CRB-01-13517-0101 RAMIREZ, FRANK 08/28/1956 INTIMIDATION OF ATTORNEY VICTIM OR WITNESS IN CRIMINAL CASE DISMISSED 01/06/2003

This last one was dismissed ^^^^^^

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-19-2015

My guess was hell by way of a gun...I've never heard the term steel (sic) hell mean jail. I've only ever heard it in reference to death by gun.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-19-2015

Whats going on in Toledo that so many cases get dismissed??????

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 02:24 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: Whats going on in Toledo that so many cases get dismissed??????


Yeah! Particularly the intimidation charges.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Older Than Dirt - 02-19-2015

Duchess, you are my hero. Oh. Christ I sound like Maytee.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 04:18 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Duchess, you are my hero. Oh. Christ I sound like Maytee.


Of course you don't!

I have help, OTD. There are a couple of people behind the scenes who send me stuff. I'm out of my element trying to find relevant information about this and these people have been nice enough to give me information.

I've just spent the past hour going in circles trying to find out what happened in court this morning. Maybe I'm looking too soon.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015



I mention something and it just appears. *poof* It's great!

Regarding Lt. Ramirez - - - - 02/19/2015 Defendant waives reading of the affidavit. Defendant waives preliminary hearing in writing and consents to be bound over to the Lucas County Grand Jury. Defendnant present in court with Attorney Richardson. Bond Contiued. JUDGE WAGNER

Grand jury is a secret proceeding. You will generally hear only the law enforcement side of a case. It is not your duty to decide whether or not a person is guilty of a crime. Your duty, together with the other grand jurors, is to determine whether or not there is sufficient evidence to require that an accused person stand trial.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-19-2015

Former Toledo police lieutenant indicted for role in plot to shoot witness
Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2015/02/19/Former-Toledo-police-lieutenant-indicted-for-role-in-plot-to-shoot-witness.html#FH2OXLhiOZswsztr.99

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 05:48 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: Former Toledo police lieutenant indicted for role in plot to shoot witness
Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2015/02/19/Former-Toledo-police-lieutenant-indicted-for-role-in-plot-to-shoot-witness.html#FH2OXLhiOZswsztr.99


Thanks, BG!

A former Toledo police lieutenant was indicted today on charges including felonious assault for his alleged role in a plot to shoot a witness, and also submitted his retirement request.

Frank Ramirez, 58, was indicted by a Lucas County grand jury for felonious assault with a firearm specification, tampering with evidence, and obstructing justice.

Maytee Vazquez-Clarke, 44, who previously was indicted for obstructing justice in the same case, also was indicted today for felonious assault with a firearms specification.

No court dates have been set, although Ms. Vazquez-Clarke and her husband, John Clarke, 45, are scheduled to have a pretrial hearing Wednesday before Common Pleas Judge Gene Zmuda.

If convicted, Mr. Ramirez faces up to eight years in prison for felonious assault, three years for the firearms specification, and up to three years on both the obstructing and tampering charges.

Police allege that Mr. Ramirez “did direct another to remove and delete evidence related to the crime and his involvement in the same.”

Tiffany Williams testified at the murder trials of Samuel Williams, who is of no relation to Ms. Williams, and Cameo Pettaway. The two defendants were accused in the slayings of Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub in Ms. Straub’s parents’ home in January, 2011.

Johnny Clarke’s parents, John Clarke, 45, and Ms. Vazquez-Clarke, 44, were arrested after Ms. Williams was shot at a day after Christmas. Police charged the elder Clarke with felonious assault for allegedly shooting twice at Ms. Williams, 28, in an alley.

Mr. Ramirez today submitted his retirement from the police department, effective Feb. 11, said Lt. Jeffrey Gorney.

Lieutenant Gorney did not release details of the retirement.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HairOfTheDog - 02-19-2015

Thanks Butterfly Girl.

I was hoping there would be a hearing in open court so we might learn more about the evidence. But, I'm glad Ramirez and Maytee were indicted by a grand jury. They'll have their days in court and we'll be watching and listening.

So, Ramirez resigned, huh? Well, good to know he won't ever be policing the streets of Toledo again, but he should have been canned years ago in my opinion.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if Maytee is healthy enough to attend next Wednesday's hearing with John. I agree with Duchess' anonymous source; she's majorly malingering.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2015

(02-19-2015, 06:05 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I was hoping there would be a hearing in open court so we might learn more about the evidence.


Would the reading of the affidavit disclosed evidence and that's why he choose not to have it read? If this is a dumb question please chalk it up to me not knowing better.