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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-21-2015

(02-21-2015, 07:37 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: And I wonder what Ramirez thought when he heard about the Clarke's being caught and what the Clarke's thought when he got caught...and I'm betting Maytee is the one that snitched on Ramirez.


I wish some, or even one, of the locals would come in and tell us what's being said on the streets.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-21-2015

Me too. I miss them coming by and filling in the spaces and dropping bombshells!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-22-2015

I found this article searching around. It mentions a scale found at straubs home that night. I don't think it was ever brought up in the trial.

http://www.rewardstv.net/ohio-states/15000-double-murder-reward/#more-1619



Feb
24
2011

$15,000 DOUBLE MURDER REWARD
Posted by Max Cannon in $10,000+, Ohio, Solved, tags: CrimePAY$, Johnny Clarke, Lisa Straub, Local MugSHOTS, murder, ohio, reward, RewardsTV, SafeCITY Publishing, Unsolved Crimes, Unsolved Murder Reward
8-10-12 Update: Calling the deaths of Lisa Straub and Johnny Clarke “barbaric to the extreme,” Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge Dean Mandros sentenced a Toledo man Friday to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

……………………………………..

The reward has doubled in the case of a young couple murdered on January 31, 2011. Twenty-one-year-old Johnny Clarke and 20 year-old Lisa Straub were found dead in her parents’ home in Springfield Township, OH, with wrists bound and plastic bags over their heads.
As the reward money grows to $15,000, Straub’s family is revealing what they believe happened that tragic morning.
Johny Clarke was talking to a friend on the phone at 11 p.m. on the night of the murder. He was supposed to go pick her up, according to the Toledo Blade. “He was telling her he was going out the door,” says his mom, Maytee Vasquez-Clarke, in her first 911 call at 1:21 a.m. “And all she heard was the phone drop and heard my son saying in the background, ‘Who are you? What do you want? What are you doing here?’”
“We’re still in shock, disbelief,” said Jim Verbosky, the uncle of Lisa Straub. He says the entire family is devastated and to make matters worse, he says there have been several rumors or published reports about the case that are just not true.
Detectives are saying the murders were likely a robbery gone bad. The house showed clear signs that someone had gone through it looking for something, but police won’t say what — if anything — was taken. But police have found a digital scale in the home, suggesting that Johnny was dealing dope.

In the meantime, detectives are also looking into whether Johnny made any enemies in prison. Daniel St. Clair, Quintwez Sanders and Johnny were busted in 2007 for robbing two different men in Toledo at gunpoint. Johnny was just 18 at the time.

He pleaded not contest to second-degree robbery and was given three years in the slam. But a year later, the judge granted him early release and placed him on probation for three years.
Relatives now believe the killers were looking for a safe that didn’t exist. Though holes were punched in the walls and rooms were tossed, the bad guys left behind jewelry, computers and TVs, leading relatives to believe they were looking for a bigger score
“There is no safe and there was no safe in that house. Part of the motive may have been robbery, but there is no safe and there was no safe in the house.”
Verbosky also says the family believes the killer or killers knew that Lisa’s parents were out of town, knew what time Lisa was getting out of work at the TGI Friday’s on Airport Highway, and knew how to get in the house. They feel the assailants knew the couple and planned it out.
Donations for reward money made to Fifth Third Bank branches in Lisa Straub’s memory have doubled in recent days. The fund is now up to $10,000 and the Lucas County Sheriff’s office has a $5,000 reward.
Straub’s family is confident the investigation and reward money will bring justice to the girl they loved.
“You know everybody talks and if somebody talks and said something, and they know somebody who may have some good credible piece of information that could solve this case, that’s certainly something that we are looking for,” Verbosky said.
If you have information that can assist detectives, you are urged to call Crimestopper at 419-255-1111.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 01:28 AM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: In the meantime, detectives are also looking into whether Johnny made any enemies in prison. Daniel St. Clair, Quintwez Sanders and Johnny were busted in 2007 for robbing two different men in Toledo at gunpoint. Johnny was just 18 at the time.


Oh look. Maytee's pure as the driven snow angel who does no wrong committed armed robbery. It looks like pulling a gun on someone runs in the family. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015



Regarding the question about DNA the other day. I found this in post #22478, it was posted by someone who was present at the trial -

If memory serves, LE testimony at, I believe Pettaway's trial, was that more than 30 DNA samples were collected from various individuals who were, presumably, possible suspects.

They also took numerous samples from family members of the victims and others who would have been in/at the Straub's home legitimately (LE, paramedics, etc...hell, maybe even the mailman) in order to eliminate their DNA (if any were found) from the suspect samples.

A long list of names was given, but very quickly, so I wasn't able to note them all, but I'm certain that AC, DM, TW and every other person ever mentioned here were swabbed.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015



More names of those whose DNA was tested from post #22479, again from someone who was present at the trial -

the list the defense was reading from was of those that were tested
Here's the list I have, just putting initials for some:

Anthony Watson & Chris Watson, AP, TW, ZB, RB (ZB's mom), Sharita, DC, Joe Cutcher, AN (AW & CW's mom), RR (johnny's friend), Andrew W (guy that picked TW up for AP on 1⁄30 to take to ZB's house), William B, Alex Cousino, Alexis K (JH gf - called him person of interest), DS (female), Amy T, Eric T, YG, LP (female), Starla, JB, MS (related to Sam), CA (cousin of Sam), SR (Cameo's gf), MD (close friend of Sam), TM (mother of one of Cameo's children), Destiny M (gf of Sam at the time), AP (female friend of Sam & Cam), WH, Alej. P (knew Cam, Sam, Alex C), LG (cousin to Sam), MW (mother of Cameo's children), EL (female acquaintance of Cam)

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-22-2015

I hate all those initials. I can't Remember who they all were. :(

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HairOfTheDog - 02-22-2015

Thanks Duchess -- there was some great first-hand posting here from the trial. I'd forgotten about the list of names being read in court.

That unidentified DNA on Johnny and Lisa's persons is perplexing. If all those swabs were tested against it and didn't match, it belongs to none of the usual suspects, nor the victims themselves, nor the Clarkes.

I'll have to review the thread; wondering if the DNA of the crime scene investigators and LE responders was also tested against it and excluded.

As d505 mentioned, let's hope that unidentified DNA is tested against the national criminal DNA database regularly.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 10:15 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Thanks Duchess -- there was some great first-hand posting here from the trial. I'd forgotten about the list of names being read in court.

That unidentified DNA on Johnny and Lisa's persons is perplexing. If all those swabs were tested against it and didn't match, it belongs to none of the usual suspects, nor the victims themselves, nor the Clarkes.

I'll have to review the thread; wondering if the DNA of the crime scene investigators and LE responders was also tested against it and excluded.

As d505 mentioned, let's hope that unidentified DNA is tested against the national criminal DNA database regularly.

The unknown DNA could come from an unknown prostitute/pimp because remember both men (williams, pettaway) were busted in a prostitution ring in Ky (?), I believe.

Just a thought...

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015



Does anyone recall if the hidden key outside of the Straub's home was still there after the murders? I'm just curious.

It was funny as hell this morning to read Judge Bates say Maytee couldn't come into the courtroom because she's vulgar & uncivilized. hah

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 11:42 AM)Duchess Wrote:

Does anyone recall if the hidden key outside of the Straub's home was still there after the murders? I'm just curious.

It was funny as hell this morning to read Judge Bates say Maytee couldn't come into the courtroom because she's vulgar & uncivilized. hah

I'm not sure if the key was left behind or not.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 11:42 AM)Duchess Wrote:

Does anyone recall if the hidden key outside of the Straub's home was still there after the murders? I'm just curious.

It was funny as hell this morning to read Judge Bates say Maytee couldn't come into the courtroom because she's vulgar & uncivilized. hah

What? Lmao I want to read this? Is it in the blade or elsewhere?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ramseycat - 02-22-2015

Vulgar and uncivilized. LOL

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 11:54 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:
(02-22-2015, 11:42 AM)Duchess Wrote:

Does anyone recall if the hidden key outside of the Straub's home was still there after the murders? I'm just curious.

It was funny as hell this morning to read Judge Bates say Maytee couldn't come into the courtroom because she's vulgar & uncivilized. hah

What? Lmao I want to read this? Is it in the blade or elsewhere?

In an order signed April 24, Judge Bates wrote that an April 20 incident in which Ms. Clark was reported to be "vulgar and uncivilized" led to his decision to ban her from proceedings in his courtroom.

"It appears that Maytee Clark cannot conduct herself with any self control and could cause problems during the course of this trial," the judge wrote. "All family members were previously warned concerning this conduct while in the courthouse."

According to a report of the afternoon incident, Ms. Clark became confrontational with three people who were at the courthouse but not associated with the case.

She also became belligerent with the prosecutor's office's victim witness assistance staff.


Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/05/05/Murder-trial-delay-is-sought.html#EXgHRhXomMiexhjR.99

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 11:54 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: What? Lmao I want to read this? Is it in the blade or elsewhere?


The Blade reported it & LC posted about it in here. It is in post #80 & 81 in the CLARKE/STRAUB CASE LINKS & FACTS thread.

Toledo Blade

In an order signed April 24, Judge Bates wrote that an April 20 incident in which Ms. Clark was reported to be "vulgar and uncivilized" 28 led to his decision to ban her from proceedings in his courtroom.

"It appears that Maytee Clark cannot conduct herself with any self control and could cause problems during the course of this trial," the judge wrote. "All family members were previously warned concerning this conduct while in the courthouse."

According to a report of the afternoon incident, Ms. Clark became confrontational with three people who were at the courthouse but not associated with the case.

She also became belligerent with the prosecutor's office's victim witness assistance staff.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015



Whoopsie. BG slid in there. Smiley_emoticons_smile

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-22-2015

BG?
Lmao I had forgotten about her being barred. It still makes me laugh too. And what's funnier is that it's a court document. It will follow her forever...her behavior is "heinous" lol

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 12:19 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Whoopsie. BG slid in there. Smiley_emoticons_smile

sorry Smiley_emoticons_smile

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-22-2015

(02-22-2015, 12:33 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: sorry Smiley_emoticons_smile


Don't be! I love that you respond like that.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HairOfTheDog - 02-22-2015

(02-21-2015, 07:37 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: I wonder what Ramirez thought when he heard about the Clarke's being caught and what the Clarke's thought when he got caught...and I'm betting Maytee is the one that snitched on Ramirez.

Speculation only: I think TPD suspected Ramirez was conspiring with the Clarkes before or immediately after shots were fired at Tiffany and that's why they didn't charge Maytee with assault initially. Ramirez was under investigation by Internal Affairs when he was arrested, according to Chief Kral during the press conference.

If so, that was smart strategy. They let Maytee and Ramirez continue communicating and monitored them so they could gather the evidence needed to make a solid case against them for more than misdemeanor obstruction. Big John was already screwed since he reportedly fired the shots and Tiffany can testify to that.

I'm curious to see the evidence against Maytee and Ramirez too. If Ramirez was actually at the scene when the shots were fired, he's even dumber than he looks.