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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 07-24-2015

(07-24-2015, 03:03 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I was just clarifying that defense attorneys often prefer separate trials for co-defendants and it doesn't mean with certainty that the co-defendants are looking to point the finger at each other.

I don't know if Maytee would try to throw her husband or her disgraced LEO buddy under the bus, but it wouldn't surprise me.

It's really the best defense strategy available, when there is no doubt shots were fired.

Defendant A points the finger at Defendant B and the jury buys the story. Defendant A is now off the hook and double-jeopardy is attached.

Defendant B points the finger at Defendant C and the jury buys the story. Defendant B is now off the hook and double-jeopardy is attached.

Defendant C points the finger at Defendant A and the jury buys the story. Defendant C is now off the hook and double-jeopardy is attached.

To me, this isn't a surprise.

Criminal mom Maytee telegraphed this scenario back in September of 2012 (Thanks, Butterfly Girl!):

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub

And to all who read here we will say whatever we want whenever we want and to whoever we want its called our civil right FREEDOM OF SPEECH and no one can be charged by law simply by stating a feeling towards vile individuals...an actual act(crime) has to be commited (proven) against maggots!! so with that said go copy paste wherever you like to whomever you want im really lmfao @ all the RETARDS Smiley_emoticons_wink
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Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub

CIVIL RIGHT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOT A CRIME AND OR THREATS UNLESS THE ACTUAL ACTS ARE COMITTED TO THE VILE MAGGOTS AND PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT!!! and as alot see it quite a few think they can actually get away with murder so when you drop for the count it has to be proven too on who how when and where Smiley_emoticons_wink some food for thoughts spineless parasites
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It might work for the attempted murder, but it is doubtful that it will work for the conspiracy charges.

Again . . . the prosecution's evidence against them must be overwhelming and they are scared shitless. hah

Dirty cop has 3 attorneys representing him, if I'm not mistaken. He ain't gonna take the fall for these criminal parents!

These POS thugs are no Professor Moriarty.

They are common, ignorant, cowardly criminals who think they are smarter than the rest of the world . . . illiterate bottom feeders.

I'm sure the prosecution has seen this strategy many times before and is prepared to dismantle it brilliantly.

Tick-tock, criminal Maytee and "Big Pussy" John!

The prosecution is holding the better hand . . . and you all know it!

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HairOfTheDog - 07-24-2015

^ I think you're right about Ramirez, Tiki.

I saw that he had three attorneys representing him today.

Meanwhile, Big John's attorney was a no-show. hah

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 07-24-2015

(07-24-2015, 02:11 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Hahaha! It sounds like it's being set up for Maytee to roll on her husband and the dirty cop. I don't know how this kind of thing works but Maytee spilling her guts in order to try and save her own ass won't surprise me.

This is from page 858 post # 12002 ish bits and pieces that show Maytee is a snitch and so was Johnny according to AG. this is a conversation between Maytee and AG


Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Real niggas do real thangs??? like murder two innocent kids that trusted your lame spineless coward asses hugh??? Karma karma karma you all will see
26 seconds ago

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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez And how do you sleep next to the enemy tho she already had one baby daddy killed and set up others arent you afraid she might just have you wacked too???
about a minute ago
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AG
amen to that....n hahahahahahah cmonnn u know what im talkin about....u were an informant...n u silly rabbit i aint never told on anyone in my life...check my rap sheet everytime i get in trouble i go do big time...n T was never in priso...n wit me....n i think u have me mistaken wit johnny because he was the snitch at north central along wit many others...u may know my kind doe...am i the type of person that torments a person so much that their mother has to call the warden at the correctional institution their in and get them rode out to another prison...i was in the hole wit johnny doing 70 days for gettng maced by a sergeant because i refused to do my daily chores... i use to give johnny ciggarettes everyday....i swas in the block when them niggaz took all his shit and he told on them so miss me wit all that snitch shit and im done talkin to u cuz i jus did some disrespectful azz shit by talkin about johnny when he cant defend himself..that aint even my style...but chill wit all the snitch shit cuz u r talkin about u and urs ...NOT ME....N THATS REALSee More
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Oh and if you even think of drive by my house again you will be arrested cameras set n ready for full capture n zoom

AG n i promise u i never hated johnny or lisa....neither of them were a threat to me in any way.....perioddddddd wit ur cheese eatin azz
6 seconds ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Your a snitch and everyone knows it and for talkin about my son i hope ypur fetus dies and you burn in hell ypu pathetic life form spineless worm im pressing charges on you for threating my life harrassing me and wishing to cause my family physical harm bitch
22 seconds ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You punk ass i kept 400 on my sons books you broke ass dude he never went without you the one that had him robbed go burn in hell demon
3 seconds ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez That whore tiffany is his girl that set up johnny n lisa that night

AG you did use to keep his books loaded and i in no way was tryin to talk shit about johnny... im jus sayin ur very disrespectful and u r tryna to paint an extremely FALSE picture about this whole scenario and i would be suprised uif u tried to press charges on me... i didnt do anything to u and its in ur blood to call the cops wit ur snitch azz....n miss me wit all that extra shit...dont be mad cuz i speak the real while u steady spreadin lies....how old r u anyways...pathetic foreal
about a minute ago

AG hahaha n jus so u know all that charges shit aint gone work ... them detectives is already hip to how u be talkin WRECKLESS on here...they aint worried bout shit u talkin bout stupidddd
about a minute ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Charges will be filed you snitch ass snake now keep harrassin me and lying you snitch cus karma n justice will get you and for talkin about my son you bitch the curse is on your son
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AG
hahaha ur ignorant foreal u fuckin retard...detectives respect me cuz i dont tell them bitches shit and haven't ever in my life....FUCK THE POLICE......the police hate people like u cuz u can commit crimes but u cant do the time...u gotta t...ell ion people to save urself and by doin that u sold ur soul to the devil...n whoeevr is talkin bout i fucked up talkin bout her lil cuzzin...i in no way was tryin to be disrespectful to johnny and thats why i stopped because he isnt here to defend himself but i dont give a fuck bout no witches....hahahahahahahah r u seriousSee More
about a minute ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
AG and tiffany williams need to be deleted , banned n blocked from this page he will not stop harrassing , tormenting me and threatening me n my families life i have contacted law enforcement since they are suspects in my son johnny clarke n lisa straubs murder
about a minute ago via iPhone

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jimbone - 07-24-2015

I wish Judge Dredd was real and could just take care of all these characters.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 07-24-2015



So, as I was wandering around Ohio today -

I'm not sure why I think that big Angel glows in the dark.

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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 07-24-2015

Every inch of Johnnys grave looks covered with dollar store flowers and trinkets LOL Wt

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 07-24-2015



That cemetery needs something like a HOA. 39

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 07-24-2015

OMG!

It looks like a homeless hoarder's squat!

Or a backpage.com brothel.

No class . . . betcha she got that from her Mom.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 07-24-2015

Wouldn't whoever shot the gun have residue on them? Maybe John took a shower before he hid in the basement.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 07-24-2015

(07-24-2015, 04:31 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: Wouldn't whoever shot the gun have residue on them? Maybe John took a shower before he hid in the basement.

We'll see if the police report said he smelled like Axe body wash.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 07-27-2015

There is an interesting document on the http://co.lucas.oh.us/index.aspx?NID=99
website. enter name clarke and go to entry 51 top one for John and then click top left public documents and then click on july 20 th I'd copy and paste it but it wont let me maybe someone else knows how to get it posted here its very interesting about the chain of events and the courts response to defendants motion to suppress evidence.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 07-27-2015

I can't get it to open once I get there
..my phone isn't letting me.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HairOfTheDog - 07-27-2015

(07-27-2015, 01:56 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: There is an interesting document on the http://co.lucas.oh.us/index.aspx?NID=99
website. enter name clarke and go to entry 51 top one for John and then click top left public documents and then click on july 20 th I'd copy and paste it but it wont let me maybe someone else knows how to get it posted here its very interesting about the chain of events and the courts response to defendants motion to suppress evidence.

It is very interesting, Butterfly Girl.

It's the State's Response to Motion to Suppress (defendant's request to suppress evidence gathered the night that Tiffany was shot and John Clarke was arrested).

Confirmations and New Details revealed in the doc:
1. Immediately after the incident, Tiffany positively identified John Clarke as the man who shot at her and Maytee Clarke as the female who was with him at the time. Tiffany also described the vehicle.

2. Police immediately sent several units to the Clarke home, where they observed John Clarke and Maytee Clarke fighting on the front yard and the vehicle parked outside.

3. When the couple saw the police, they ran into the dwelling.

4. Maytee told police that only her son was in the home. Police entered the dwelling (without explicit consent); a male child (son) and a female (not identified) were observed inside the home.

5. Police searched the premises and found John Clarke hiding in the basement.

6. Upon his arrest, police contend that John Clarke gave them consent to search his vehicle for a hand gun; no hand gun was found in the vehicle.

In this State's Response to Motion to Suppress doc filed on 7/20/2015, the State (prosecution) contends that Toledo police officers did not violate the fourth amendment's protection against unwarranted/unreasonable search and seizure because: (a) the officers had Probable Cause to enter the dwelling, (b) the officers were in "hot pursuit" of a suspect believed to be armed and dangerous, and (c ) there existed exigent circumstances.

^ That's my recap of the doc; I'll try to convert the PDF to text and paste it too.

I don't believe that Maytee's defense team has a chance in hell of getting the evidence suppressed.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 07-27-2015



HEY! LOOK AT THE WHITE TRASH FIGHTING IN THEIR FRONT YARD.

Pfft. The police see the people they are looking for and Maytee thinks they need permission to go into her house. Hahahaha! She's such a dumb woman.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 07-27-2015

Wow...very interesting indeed. I don't think it'll be supressed either.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HairOfTheDog - 07-27-2015

I tried, but can't convert the PDF docket; keeps freezing my keyboard.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 07-27-2015

On the document page it has a print option that could then be scanned to your computer. I know how to scan but have no idea after that lol. I'd have to have one of my kids come over to do it for me so if anyone else is more computer savvy it would be nice to post here Smiley_emoticons_smile

Also John was to be in court today for his pretrial I don't see any updates.

7/24/2015 8 Title : MIS:CASE CONTINUED
72-000038005 issued by 162 ()
Dated July 24, 2015. Court Reporter LYNETTE SHINDORF
ordered. State of Ohio: MICHAEL CODY. Defendant, JOHN
CLARKE present in court. RONNIE L. WINGATE not present
on behalf of the defendant.
Matter called for pretrial hearing/suppression hearing.
Matter rescheduled for pretrial hearing/suppression
hearing and appearance of counsel on Monday, July 27,
2015, at 9:00a.m.
Bond is continued.
JUDGE GENE A. ZMUDA
PARTY : D1 - CLARKE JOHN

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 07-28-2015

Looks like John got his pretrial continued as did Maytee and Ramirez. They sure are dragging this out. Maytees and Ramirez is Dec 7th and Johns is Dec 9th



7/27/2015 1 Title : MIS:CASE CONT AT DEF REQUEST
72-000038015 issued by 226 ()
Dated July 27, 2015. Court Reporter LYNETTE SHINDORF
ordered. State of Ohio: MICHAEL CODY presence waived.
RONNIE L. WINGATE present on behalf of the defendant.
Defendant, JOHN CLARKE present in court.
Matter called for pretrial. Pursuant to the request of
defendant matter rescheduled for pretrial on December 9,
2015 at 9:00 a.m.
Bond is continued.
JUDGE GENE A. ZMUDA
PARTY : D1 - CLARKE JOHN

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pplrcrazy - 07-29-2015

Wow, I haven't been on here in forever! I'm not sure if any of you remember me but I had gotten AG to chat with me around the same time he was arguing with Maytee on fb. Anyways, I think of Johnny and Lisa often. I didn't know them or even live in the same state as them but this case just struck a cord with me. I can't believe his mother is still able to walk the streets and has continued all this time but then again I'm not surprised either because she's a complete and utter lunatic. I'll be back and reading more. I think I've caught up for the most part.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 07-29-2015



I remember you. Nice to see you! Smiley_emoticons_smile