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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:37 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:34 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: He wouldn't do that he is also a fire chief and understands how investigations work and how much info to give out. That is why he is speaking for Lisa's family. My only concern with Lisa's uncle, is that in his latest interview he mentioned that they had some people willing to contribute big money to the reward fund, if needed. Now why would you put that out there?? Wouldn't you think that would make someone hold off on confessing/snitching?? Certainly they would be happy with 10K, but why bother when they now know they can hold out for BIGGER money???? This concerned me. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - grey sweat pants - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:39 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:34 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: He wouldn't do that he is also a fire chief and understands how investigations work and how much info to give out. That is why he is speaking for Lisa's family. He would not go on national tv without clearing what he going to say through LE and his sister in law. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - sharit - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:50 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:42 AM)sharit Wrote: [quote='Freshbait78' pid='129987' dateline='1298038519']this is what i have been saying. they knew he was talkin to tiff and she was in on it, why else were they not concerened that help was on the way. cause they knew that down ass bytch was not calling anyone .....for a while. im telling you that was not tiff here posting and i think i know who it was. tiff is in on it. id bet money on that and if she is cleared i will be the first to apologize. untill then she is an accomplis to murder in mind and is only my opinion. and you know a mothers instinct is very strong. did anyone notice in the picture of johny and lisa standing by the ocean, johny has a large tattoo going down his right arm starting at his shoulder MAYTEE going down to his elbow very large letters. tells me he loved his mother very much.JMO He probably got it when he was 10 yrs old. [/quote that tattoo is big no 10 yo could handle the pain and it is proffessionally done. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - grey sweat pants - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:51 AM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:37 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:34 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: He wouldn't do that he is also a fire chief and understands how investigations work and how much info to give out. That is why he is speaking for Lisa's family. It shouldn't. Money is a strong motivator. More money may get someone to tell what they know. It's was held out there like a carrot on a stick. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Sean69 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 09:39 AM)EastCoastKat Wrote: ....but to be absolutely correct, I will post again why I believe this is important: EastCoastKat - You and I are on the same page. This is a huge problem and anyone who says it isn't is not thinking clearly. I've been driving this same point home for awhile now. I'm curious as to which version LE is going with????? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:57 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:51 AM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:37 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:34 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: He wouldn't do that he is also a fire chief and understands how investigations work and how much info to give out. That is why he is speaking for Lisa's family. I agree with Aileen. I had to shake my head when I heard him say that. Yes money is a strong motivator, which is the reason for the reward to begin with BUT why would someone tell all they know when hearing that if they wait a bit longer they stand to gain more with their information. He should have either left that part out or announced that the pot had officially been raised. Now I believe that if there is a person with info willing to come forward they will wait for the reward to increase. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - grey sweat pants - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 11:06 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:57 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:51 AM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:37 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:34 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: He wouldn't do that he is also a fire chief and understands how investigations work and how much info to give out. That is why he is speaking for Lisa's family. Which is why he announced it. Think about it you are sitting at home and if you know something you are monitoring the news about the case. You dangle more money at someone and they may just come forward. I know Jim this was a calculated move done in partnership with LE and Lisas family. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - broke331 - 02-18-2011 PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, I`m a little concerned about that myself because there was clearly an indication that -- as long as they believed this girl, anyway, and what her phone call stated, that a stranger -- there are strangers -- and I believe there`s more than one -- strangers had gotten into the home that these two people did not know and they felt threatened. And then these two people were no longer answering the door or left the home. So I think there would be more reason -- I`d take a little bit more time looking around, as best I could, like the parents eventually did, you know, peeping in everywhere, to make sure there wasn`t something going on in there. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - netsleuth - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:28 AM)sharit Wrote: jc and ls must have parked in driveway and probably left garage door up. perps came in as ls was changing out of her uniform.and shut garage door jmo. and just coincidence tiff calls to see if they are home yet. then give the signal. they are there!JMO! in my heart i feel she is involved,again just MY opinion. you can bet all players are being watched closely. i do not think it was tiffany here posting.jmo Sharit, whoever posted had invited here privately ala TW's Facebook account. I think it was her and/or her boyfriend posting here. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:12 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 05:21 AM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-18-2011, 03:00 AM)kitty1 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:04 AM)jash Wrote:do u think that her uncle is gonna announce on national tv that she was half dressed. he says that she was still in her uniform. you can't assume that to mean her entire uniform. the point he was trying to make was that she wasnt home very long because she always changes out of her uniform right away. She didn't get that far.Quote:kitty1 Wrote: Also...please ask about the cell phones . were they placed on either or both of the bodies? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Sean69 - 02-18-2011 LadyCop - Is LE (for this case) on here? I hope so! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - netsleuth - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:15 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: If the perps walked up on JC, on the phone, with no knowledge of who he was talking to, don't you think that they would have been concerned that the unknown person JC was talking to may come by or call someone else (authorities) to come by & check things out? That bothers me. I'm also troubled by the fact that the intruder(s) who TW can't see is referred to as "that man". And, the fact that there is an interest to deflect away from what likely happened "robbery gone wrong". Kids like TW and ZB and .??? think people in the suburbs are "rich". I think they saw the Straub house and felt like they hit the jackpot. Hell, they're used to robbing people who live on Arlington avenue. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - netsleuth - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 11:24 AM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: Also...please ask about the cell phones . were they placed on either or both of the bodies? I wouldn't put too much into the statement on cell phones. Maytee said it while screaming at an inept 911 operator who was asking dip-shit questions. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - netsleuth - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 07:09 AM)DCTim Wrote: I think the one who would know for sure would be Johnny's dad who was the very first to find the bodies. Amazing that he hasn't been heard from since - anywhere - and Maytee nevers makes mention of him (that I recall) in her FB posts. Remember, when the Straub family is quiet, it's because their respectable, upstanding, stoic citizens who are waiting for LE to do their work. I have no doubt this is true of anyone involved. Maytee is also not saying much about those responsible of late. I think they're all trying to let LE do their jobs. I get the feeling that JC Sr. is fairly quiet. Even right after the bodies were found, he had trouble speaking about it. Of course, he was very distraught. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 10:15 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: The following is Tiffanys part of a converstaion she was having on Wednesday evening at, or around the same time, she was on this thread answering questions (Notice the time stamp) You make a very important point here. So if Tw really heard the altercation then the perps had to know they were not in danger of being caught because they knew who was calling. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-18-2011 (02-17-2011, 11:44 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-17-2011, 11:40 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-17-2011, 11:37 PM)JsMom Wrote:(02-17-2011, 11:36 PM)Jane Wrote: I searched out, how long would it take to die, with a plastic bag over your head. Worded it other ways too, but it pretty much comes up with, anywhere betw 5 to 7-8 minutes. You lose consciousness first, then as the brain is more deprived, death comes fairly soon, after that. (02-18-2011, 10:15 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: The following is Tiffanys part of a converstaion she was having on Wednesday evening at, or around the same time, she was on this thread answering questions (Notice the time stamp) "don't you think that they would have been concerned that the unknown person JC was talking to may come by or call someone else (authorities) to come by & check things out? That bothers me." Yeah, that bothers me too! Because TW says he was yellin, and then she says he was arguing with someone, actually she says a "man" but couldn't make out what the man was saying..SO the KILLER/KILLERS must have heard JC say to TW I'LL CALL YOU BACK, RIGHT AND THEN THE PHONE RINGS AND RINGS, WOULDN'T YOU GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE FOR FEAR THAT PERSON WOULD COME OVER OR CALL THE COPS??? Unless maybe they knew who JC was talking to..??? That's why this is important, and I don't see how others do not see that! Another thing: TW says...."umm So I drove out to their house after umm my friends mom got home and umm nobody answered the door" this is on the 911 call. "when they did not answer after a hour i woke up my friends ma n asked to use her car." This is on the board. Was TW waiting for friend's mom to come home or was friend's mom asleep and you woke her up? Discrepancy...AGAIN...two very different things... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - broke331 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 11:13 AM)broke331 Wrote: PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, I`m a little concerned about that myself because there was clearly an indication that -- as long as they believed this girl, anyway, and what her phone call stated, that a stranger -- there are strangers -- and I believe there`s more than one -- strangers had gotten into the home that these two people did not know and they felt threatened. And then these two people were no longer answering the door or left the home. So I think there would be more reason -- I`d take a little bit more time looking around, as best I could, like the parents eventually did, you know, peeping in everywhere, to make sure there wasn`t something going on in there. I'm only bringing up the part that LS phone call stated, RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - netsleuth - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 11:03 AM)Sean69 Wrote: EastCoastKat - You and I are on the same page. This is a huge problem and anyone who says it isn't is not thinking clearly. I've been driving this same point home for awhile now. I'm curious as to which version LE is going with????? I think it's a fair point, and I hate to give anyone ideas but one could claim a combination. For example - He said he'd call me back, but I was still a bit concerned. I became more concerned when I couldn't reach him for an hour. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - broke331 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 11:44 AM)broke331 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 11:13 AM)broke331 Wrote: PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, I`m a little concerned about that myself because there was clearly an indication that -- as long as they believed this girl, anyway, and what her phone call stated, that a stranger -- there are strangers -- and I believe there`s more than one -- strangers had gotten into the home that these two people did not know and they felt threatened. And then these two people were no longer answering the door or left the home. So I think there would be more reason -- I`d take a little bit more time looking around, as best I could, like the parents eventually did, you know, peeping in everywhere, to make sure there wasn`t something going on in there. and to who RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 11:06 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:57 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:51 AM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:37 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:(02-18-2011, 10:34 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: He wouldn't do that he is also a fire chief and understands how investigations work and how much info to give out. That is why he is speaking for Lisa's family. maybe LS uncle should have announced that police have received some calls offering information in attempts to claim the reward money" that may get one perp riled up thinking "hey i'M getting sold out for 10k...maybe i should flip for that 10k on someone else first. |