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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:47 PM)Sean69 Wrote: Well, COB on day 19 and still not even a "We're working on it." PR seat must be vacant. I'm losing faith here.[/i] Yup, it's difficult isn't it- makes it feel as if it's a cold case. We're a very inpatient society. We want this shit solved & we want it done yesterday. Hurry up & wait I guess... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:37 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:23 PM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:20 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:10 AM)shitstorm Wrote: I think the killer/s may have been lying in wait, too. I'll reiterate - it was premeditated murder. First degree, not second. Not incidental to a robbery. If that's the case, then that settles it. This case will never be solved ? ... cell towers for the phones will give the answer. Didn't someone state, it takes 20 minutes to drive from where ever TW was, to Lisa's parents' house? IF TW was using both phones at the same place, cell towers will show it. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:34 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:27 PM)netsleuth Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:23 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I posted a comment earlier this morning, page 287 #4009. It's been quoted a few times throughout the day. A converstaion that Tiffany had the same night she was here answering questions & some of my thoughts. + 1 RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:44 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Just a thought but supposing T wasn't a good friend of JC and LS and had not talked to them till that night.I guess phone records could show that.Maybe she just jumped into the investigation as a friend but maybe there was a falling out with them and that could be motive.Oh I just was helping and was concerned for my good friends. MAYBE!!!!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:42 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:11 PM)RJs-Ex Wrote: I haven't seen this discussed here yet. Did Maytee ever go into the house after Johnny's dad kicked the door in? I find it hard to believe she just stayed outside. you're good! LOL RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:44 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Just a thought but supposing T wasn't a good friend of JC and LS and had not talked to them till that night.I guess phone records could show that.Maybe she just jumped into the investigation as a friend but maybe there was a falling out with them and that could be motive.Oh I just was helping and was concerned for my good friends. And if that's the case, then they were hardly getting together to play pool ..... unless playing pool is a euphemism for something else. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 02:39 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:34 PM)trixie Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:29 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:21 PM)trixie Wrote: If I remember correctly, I THINK I heard Lisa'a uncle say something like as soon as Lisa gets home from work, she likes to shower and get out of her work clothes, which would make sense why they went home before going to pick up TW. If that's the case, why was she still in her work clothes when they were "walking out the door" to go pick her up? Idk why they went home, just throwing that out there. For all we know, Johnny & Lisa never invited anyone over that night, weren't going to pick anyone up, and planned on being alone. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:51 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:37 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:23 PM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:20 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 02:10 AM)shitstorm Wrote: I think the killer/s may have been lying in wait, too. I'll reiterate - it was premeditated murder. First degree, not second. Not incidental to a robbery. The perps could have been operating JC's phone. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:44 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Just a thought but supposing T wasn't a good friend of JC and LS and had not talked to them till that night.I guess phone records could show that.Maybe she just jumped into the investigation as a friend but maybe there was a falling out with them and that could be motive.Oh I just was helping and was concerned for my good friends. Does anyone here know if Lisa's house does indeed have a pool table??? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - trixie - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:57 PM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:44 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Just a thought but supposing T wasn't a good friend of JC and LS and had not talked to them till that night.I guess phone records could show that.Maybe she just jumped into the investigation as a friend but maybe there was a falling out with them and that could be motive.Oh I just was helping and was concerned for my good friends. I don't think that it's been debated here. Why would she tell everyone that story if she didn't know they had one for sure? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:57 PM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:44 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Just a thought but supposing T wasn't a good friend of JC and LS and had not talked to them till that night.I guess phone records could show that.Maybe she just jumped into the investigation as a friend but maybe there was a falling out with them and that could be motive.Oh I just was helping and was concerned for my good friends. It would be interesting to know the answer, but my guess would be yes or TW's story would have been blown out of the water at the start. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:51 PM)kfran Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:47 PM)Sean69 Wrote: Well, COB on day 19 and still not even a "We're working on it." PR seat must be vacant. I'm losing faith here.[/i] Yea...Whats wrong with THEM!....On every case of "Law And Order" I watch, they come to the right conclusion in just One Hour. Of course unless its a "2-parter. Then I can't sleep for a week.. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - browntabby1226 - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 05:01 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:51 PM)kfran Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:47 PM)Sean69 Wrote: Well, COB on day 19 and still not even a "We're working on it." PR seat must be vacant. I'm losing faith here.[/i] RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:44 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Just a thought but supposing T wasn't a good friend of JC and LS and had not talked to them till that night.I guess phone records could show that.Maybe she just jumped into the investigation as a friend but maybe there was a falling out with them and that could be motive.Oh I just was helping and was concerned for my good friends. I think that's a possibility, for sure. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 05:00 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:57 PM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: I was also wondering if anyone knows the real nature of the relationship between TW and JC/LS. We know that she and LS were FB 'friends', but that only tells us that they were acquainted with one another and not if they hung out. Could their relationship have been buyer/dealer, for example? agreed! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:59 PM)trixie Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:57 PM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: I was also wondering if anyone knows the real nature of the relationship between TW and JC/LS. We know that she and LS were FB 'friends', but that only tells us that they were acquainted with one another and not if they hung out. Could their relationship have been buyer/dealer, for example? She must have known they did. Didn't she say she and her friend (ZB?) had also been there a night or 2 before "playing pool". Maybe they were there for a buy and checked the place out while they were there .... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lawheeze - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 03:58 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Johnny was trying to get away from his family's disfunctionThere's evidence of drug activity in the Straub residence. How does that show Johnny trying to get away? At the very least, Lisa knew her bf was into drugs. Most likely IMO, she was doing them with him. (02-18-2011, 03:58 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Lisa and Tiff became friends. Good for Tiff. Now I seeWhere do you see any evidence of that? Pregnant mothers of 3 don't usually go out to play pool at midnight on a Sunday night. (02-18-2011, 03:58 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I see Tiff as being socked in the gut once more by theIs writing a book Tiff's dream? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - trixie - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 05:06 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:59 PM)trixie Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:57 PM)aileen Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:54 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:50 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Exactly I agree she did. She said they were over there. I think even Maytee said JC and LS had people over a night or 2 before to play some pool. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 03:16 PM)JustSayin... Wrote: I find it a little strange that the only thing TW said on F.B. in reference to the murder of her friends was a simple R.I.P. message that morning. How do you not at least mention that you were at the scene or on the phone with JC? I.E. The friend JC was with before he left to pick LS up mentions her shock, and that she never thought when he walked out she would never see him again. Yes, I found that out of character for someone who is such a prolific FB chat brat. One "RIP" and nothing else. I would have expected an "OMG, my friends were murdered last night", at least. What that said to me was that she couldn't even feign emotion. She didn't give a shit. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-18-2011 (02-18-2011, 04:57 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:51 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:37 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:(02-18-2011, 04:23 PM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-18-2011, 01:20 PM)Jane Wrote: I think you might be right. Since "lots of people" (per Maytee) knew about the key in the garage, I think it IS possible, the perps were already in the house. Johnny & Lisa come in, she heads to change clothes, then the perps come out....BUT it seems odd they'd show themselves while JC's on the phone, don't you think ??? I don't know. I get way off track, when I try to delve any further, lol ... There's a profiler, from FL (forgot her name now) .. she once said, usually your first gut instinct is right, for the most part, once you piece things together, as in 'if it looks like a duck, & quacks like a duck.... ' ... My very first thoughts were "drugs". JC put himself around some very bad people, & word of mouth, got him & Lisa killed. Since the digital scales were on the counter, along with pieces of white plastic, AND a zip lock bag, I immediately figured JC had come into a pound of weed. Just my first thoughts. I think someone knew he was getting dope that day, & they wanted it for resale themselves. As far as being set up. I start getting hazy on that. I honestly believe TW's statements here, the other night, & will until something shakes that feeling. edited to add - I think the perps got the weed |