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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - HeartBreaker - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)stoof725 Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:54 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote: has anyone else noticed tiff has not been active on FB for a couple days? i also noticed i can no longer find the RIP johnny page that maytee had going... no. not the justice page. the rip johnny page maytee had. LC found it and sent the link though... thanks! not sure why i couldn't find it. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. it is here, page 117 i think. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Jane Wrote: that's why I'm not sure if he really knew them or not. "bro, wut are you doing?" doesn't tell me much. And if he really said "bro, who are you?", that makes me think even more, he didn't know these people. UNLESS they had ski masks on .. I think it's possible, as the perp came closer to Johnny, he thought he could 'take them on' ... I'm going to say there was no ski mask, now .. Because if they had masks on, it would be more obvious there was trouble coming/panic. For some reason, Johnny wasn't panicked, the first few seconds. Just my thoughts RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 social call, "pool game" RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - concerned - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. You would be amazed at what Morticians can do RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 05:59 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:50 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Unknown Wrote: The key is to the mainframe of the alarm system that is in a locked box in the basement of the straubs home. It was in the package of security documents that was in the kitchen just IMO. I understand that, but weren't the bodies found on the main floor, kitchen, dining, living room area? Maytee said the bodies could be seen in the basement. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)stoof725 Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:54 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote: has anyone else noticed tiff has not been active on FB for a couple days? i also noticed i can no longer find the RIP johnny page that maytee had going... http://mockforums.net/thread-4854.html RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 05:56 PM)Adub Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:43 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:07 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:01 PM)Adub Wrote:(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)heyyou Wrote: this is just a rumor 2 i do kno alot of people who know jc personally and i heard that key that says 544 is for i guess a storage unit that held a large quanity of marijuana and alot of people wanted it i just heard this so i thought i would put it out there but this is just a rumor that i heard Johnny did not have his own home. Anyone who sells knows that if you want to get caught, have people coming in and out of your home. Also you don't want to drive around with it. A storage unit would be like a home base, not putting anyone's home in jeopardy and cheap to rent. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:13 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated. I have seen a person in their casket who had a gun shot wound to the head. They tried to make him look normal, it didn't work. If the head is swollen, which would happen if he was beaten, they can't do much for swelling and lacerations. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - concerned - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:excellent point!!!(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Jane Wrote: that's why I'm not sure if he really knew them or not. "bro, wut are you doing?" doesn't tell me much. And if he really said "bro, who are you?", that makes me think even more, he didn't know these people. UNLESS they had ski masks on .. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - concerned - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:18 PM)concerned Wrote:Or he knew them also isnt is spectulated that there is more than one perp? Bro is singular. Bros is plural(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:excellent point!!!(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO the word "bro" when talking to someone is used amongst friends not someone being met with an intruder RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Unknown - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:09 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO the word "bro" when talking to someone is used amongst friends not someone being met with an intruder Johnny had every reason to be prepared and panicking, he knows he has screwed over people in the past and one day it'd come back to bite him in the ass. he acted like he could handle it and said let me call you back instead of call the police. This is one of the reason I don't think that convo of what Tiffany says never happened. Put yourself in his shoe. Someone is in the house with a mask or not & your on the phone with a friend.. what do you do? do you keep say bro who are you?, Bro Who Are You?!, BRO, Who Are You???, BRO WHO ARE YOU!? you let me call you back? Absolutly not! makes no fn sense at all, call never took place like that sound completly made up by someone who had to come up with something and not give to much info. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-19-2011 If that phone call actually happened as TW claims it did then he didn't feel threatened at all and felt whatever was happening at that point was going to be easily handled in a matter of moments. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LoserCity - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:21 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:09 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote: "bro" is like "dude" IMO Good point. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:20 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:18 PM)concerned Wrote:Or he knew them also isnt is spectulated that there is more than one perp? Bro is singular. Bros is plural(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:excellent point!!!(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote: "bro" is like "dude" IMO I keep thinking there was more than one perp, BUT Joseph Duncan subdued an entire family, by himself, up in Idaho, slaughtering all of them, except the two youngest children, which he kidnapped. He did, however, have a gun. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 02-19-2011 A few more things, once again this is my opinion based on the things I know about this tragedy: 1. Johnny knew the people who did this/were in charge of this 2. There was more than one person 3. They were either looking for a safe or just wanted it to look like they were looking for a safe while punching holes into the closet walls 4. Time tables need further research. To bust in, fight, cause enough blood to be all over the place, strangle Lisa with pants, possibly rape, tape hands and Johnny's ankles, tape bags over their heads, pull out central security documents and examine them, go upstairs and "look around", punching holes into the walls, etc. all this would have taken a little bit of time. Tiffany says she drove over in her friend's mom's car after she tried to call the couple and they wouldn't answer after the phone went dead. She would've saw something or heard someone talking. It would've been very quiet in the middle of the night in that neighborhood on a Sunday. 5. Police will let time lapse to give people the impression that they have given up and let the talking and bragging begin... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Countryside_Belle - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:35 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote:These are on the board:(02-19-2011, 05:06 PM)stoof725 Wrote: this is my opinion... Uhhh...I was recently at a concert and a young man who had a bit too much to drink was engaging in a fight with another guy he didn't even know- a lot of the context of what was said right before the fight got physical was : "WTF is your problem BRO?!", etc.- A LOT of "bros" were in there.- In fact, that's why it sticks out to me, I thought the Frat boys' term of "Bro" while he was fighting was used waaaay too much before the fight turned physical. Just sayin'. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-19-2011 (02-19-2011, 06:21 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:09 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-19-2011, 06:03 PM)Unknown Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:58 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Jane Wrote: "bro" is like "dude" IMO So Johnny wasn't a very nice person, was he? He screwed over a lot of people, in the past?? How? Drugs? Money? Jail snitch? & weren't the bodies found in the living/dining/kitchen area?? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-19-2011 Bro is common vernacular, i would not attach much significance to it. (assuming you believe Tiffany's acct.) remember "don't tase me bro"? |