(02-20-2011, 03:29 PM)purplepegasus Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 02:53 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: I woke to my kids jumping on me this A.M.- for a split second I thought I was getting "jumped"!
Wonder if we'll hear from LE this week!?
Toldeo Native- very nice photo of the couple. They look so green and happy.

I went to Tiff's mom's myspace last night and the music took a minute to start and came blaring over my speakers (at almost midnight) and I jumped out of my skin looking for my killer. I always seem to read this forum late at night and sit waiting for someone to come jump me.

(02-20-2011, 06:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:44 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: My apologies if this has already been discussed and answered....

I am really curious as to why LE is stating that the couple was murdered between 1am-4am.

Tiffany was supposedly on the phone around 11pm when things began to happen. So, does this mean that they are discrediting Tiffany's timeline, or do they believe the killers were there for 2+ hours before killing Lisa and Johnny??

Also, I believe the bodies were discovered at 3:50am, and were already cold to the touch.

I'm just confused as to why the possible time of death begins at 1am instead of 11pm.

Maytee tells 911 Johnny is cold and stiff to the touch. That means they would've been dead closer to 11pm. And that means the intruders came right in and let the killing begin...

(02-20-2011, 03:47 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 03:38 PM)lawheeze Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 03:30 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: We can take each theory and twist the minute details to come up with lots of ideas of what exactly happened. I think we all agree that the killers were people Johnny knew or was connected with.

But I am curious, which theory do you all think is correct?

Choices:
1. It was Lisa's ex-boyfriend
2. It was a robbery, looking for drugs and/or safe
3. It was a revenge killing. Johnny messed with someone's money, they are making a statement.
4. It was gang related
5. It has to do with the people who were involved with the robberies Johnny helped commit when he was younger

I'm going with 3 or 5 at the moment. Both are revenge and to me, the bags over the head is a revenge method.

I agree with lawheeze and purplepegasus.

I think it was either #3, meaning he or his family owed someone money or was stepping on someone's drug territory or #5, the two guys that were also involved in the robbery Johnny participated in three years ago. Because of the method of killing, this is very personal. The fact that jewelry and other valuables were left behind, makes me think that might not have been the case. Also, the perps made it look like a robbery, which could be a sign that it really wasn't.

Anyone else?

(02-20-2011, 06:08 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:47 PM)Methusala Wrote: The following exchange appears on TW's FB wall:

TW: i pay no mind 2 the ignorance that is goin on..so go somewhere else wyt it .i aint got tyme for dis lame shyt.get it together people foreal..
February 16 at 6:03pm



XXX XXX XXX: I'm very very proud of you! February 16 at 9:05pm

I'm wondering - What is it that TW did that this person in N. Carolina is so very very proud of her for?

Was it for appearing on Mock and answering questions?

Or what?

I have no idea!

(02-20-2011, 06:12 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: This is from the Open Discussion page:

JC and LS Case Open Discussion
What do you think about someone who has an extensive criminal record setting up a reward fund? [TC]

Attached to it are 69 comments although it appears many of those comments were deleted. Maytee announced that she would be setting up a reward fund & from what I get from reading the comments this was directed at Maytees criminal background although the Admin of the page says more than once that she hasn't said any names.

This makes me really sad. People who attack other people at their weakest point... and for what? What does admin have to gain from this? It's just really really sad to me.

(02-20-2011, 03:59 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 03:54 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 03:45 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 03:34 PM)purplepegasus Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 03:30 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: We can take each theory and twist the minute details to come up with lots of ideas of what exactly happened. I think we all agree that the killers were people Johnny knew or was connected with.

But I am curious, which theory do you all think is correct?

Choices:
1. It was Lisa's ex-boyfriend
2. It was a robbery, looking for drugs and/or safe
3. It was a revenge killing. Johnny messed with someone's money, they are making a statement.
4. It was gang related
5. It has to do with the people who were involved with the robberies Johnny helped commit when he was younger

I think 3-5 are reasonable, but IDK that I think Johnny messed with the money, I think it's possible this was revenge against Maytee or even possibly his dad. I think the people are involved in gangs, but isn't directly related to the gang.

#2 They absolutely destroyed the master bedroom looking for the safe.

revenge is my thought, BUT I do think someone wanted something in that home, really bad, that night, so I have to put #2, in the mix..

It just seems that they left so many things behind if it was a robbery. Even small things, like jewelry, that would be easy to steal.

It also needs to be decided if the intruders went in with the premeditated intention of killing the couple or if it was a last minute happening, meaning the bags and tape were already at the house.

If it was a robbery, I would think there were only two perps. They would've had to subdue the couple, then do all the ransacking.

If it was a revenge killing, there would've been more than two perps, to fight with Johnny and Lisa causing all the blood while one or two ransack the house to make it appear to be a robbery gone bad.

(02-20-2011, 06:18 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:12 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: This is from the Open Discussion page:

JC and LS Case Open Discussion
What do you think about someone who has an extensive criminal record setting up a reward fund? [TC]

Attached to it are 69 comments although it appears many of those comments were deleted. Maytee announced that she would be setting up a reward fund & from what I get from reading the comments this was directed at Maytees criminal background although the Admin of the page says more than once that she hasn't said any names.

This makes me really sad. People who attack other people at their weakest point... and for what? What does admin have to gain from this? It's just really really sad to me.

i would be willing to bet that it's the Facebook Nazi working as the administrator of this new page... i definitely feel like she's cruelly baiting her just for a reaction which i find mean. makes me feel bad for my comments about thinking maytee is a nutter etc on this forum.

(02-20-2011, 05:38 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 04:10 PM)Duchess Wrote:

My Mom would go up in a puff of smoke if she heard me talking "gangsta speak" and that is no lie.

My Daddy would have too!!

(02-20-2011, 05:32 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: you can go start a NASCAR thread.

(02-20-2011, 05:22 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Jane: Probably making too much of it, but gathering DNA swabs, throughout the house, makes it sound like lots of blood, maybe ?? Why not say, gathering fingerprints? I'm letting my mind wander...



so they will have DNA samples of EVERYONE who was in that house for party and on night of killing. now they will pore over their facts and evidence and get warrants for DNA samples of perhaps all parties.

(02-20-2011, 05:22 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Jane: Probably making too much of it, but gathering DNA swabs, throughout the house, makes it sound like lots of blood, maybe ?? Why not say, gathering fingerprints? I'm letting my mind wander...



so they will have DNA samples of EVERYONE who was in that house for party and on night of killing. now they will pore over their facts and evidence and get warrants for DNA samples of perhaps all parties.

(02-20-2011, 05:34 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 01:41 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: Here's my avatar, as LC requested.

I think these angels' faces need to be seen on their thread.

My you both rest in paradise and receive justice soon, Johnny and Lisa.

When Tiffany was here and posting, I put up this picture of Lisa:




There was not one peep from Tiffany. No, "Oh, Lisa :(". No, "Wasn't she beautiful?". Nothing. I found that interesting.

(02-20-2011, 06:31 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:22 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Jane: Probably making too much of it, but gathering DNA swabs, throughout the house, makes it sound like lots of blood, maybe ?? Why not say, gathering fingerprints? I'm letting my mind wander...



so they will have DNA samples of EVERYONE who was in that house for party and on night of killing. now they will pore over their facts and evidence and get warrants for DNA samples of perhaps all parties.

All these people they just picked up in a drug raid. Do they routinely take DNA samples of arrestees now, or just photos and fingerprints?

(02-20-2011, 06:31 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:22 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Jane: Probably making too much of it, but gathering DNA swabs, throughout the house, makes it sound like lots of blood, maybe ?? Why not say, gathering fingerprints? I'm letting my mind wander...



so they will have DNA samples of EVERYONE who was in that house for party and on night of killing. now they will pore over their facts and evidence and get warrants for DNA samples of perhaps all parties.

All these people they just picked up in a drug raid. Do they routinely take DNA samples of arrestees now, or just photos and fingerprints?

(02-20-2011, 06:35 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:31 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:22 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Jane: Probably making too much of it, but gathering DNA swabs, throughout the house, makes it sound like lots of blood, maybe ?? Why not say, gathering fingerprints? I'm letting my mind wander...



so they will have DNA samples of EVERYONE who was in that house for party and on night of killing. now they will pore over their facts and evidence and get warrants for DNA samples of perhaps all parties.

All these people they just picked up in a drug raid. Do they routinely take DNA samples of arrestees now, or just photos and fingerprints?

a few states are going that way, it's early yet. don't know about Ohio.

(02-20-2011, 06:23 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:18 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:12 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: This is from the Open Discussion page:

JC and LS Case Open Discussion
What do you think about someone who has an extensive criminal record setting up a reward fund? [TC]

Attached to it are 69 comments although it appears many of those comments were deleted. Maytee announced that she would be setting up a reward fund & from what I get from reading the comments this was directed at Maytees criminal background although the Admin of the page says more than once that she hasn't said any names.

This makes me really sad. People who attack other people at their weakest point... and for what? What does admin have to gain from this? It's just really really sad to me.

i would be willing to bet that it's the Facebook Nazi working as the administrator of this new page... i definitely feel like she's cruelly baiting her just for a reaction which i find mean. makes me feel bad for my comments about thinking maytee is a nutter etc on this forum.

It is the Facebook Nazi, she openly admitted that she was starting this new page. It's suppose to be open discussion but I see she's still deleting peoples comments when they don't jive with her opinions. And I agree, I think she's purposely starting topics that will incite anger. I would be pissed off as well if I were grieving for my child & in that most raw time in my life I had to deal with the Facebook Nazi.