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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-06-2011 welcome brett_ashley and i appreciate your thoughtful comments. i do feel very sad for all the parents, it's hard to look at those young kids' faces and not feel terrible. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 04:44 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:(02-06-2011, 02:30 PM)pinkyfloyd Wrote:(02-06-2011, 02:26 PM)Jane Wrote: ALL good points, but I'm a bit confused. Do you think the mother knows what happened? You mention "turning the tables on T" + 1000 Reading her FB post about her husband, cousin and herself, all being dehydrated (in response to the murder of her son) smacked of narcissism. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-06-2011 just as a point of interest...there are 27 people reading this thread at this moment. members and guests. that is similar to when Zahra Baker and Petit cases were being discussed. and it's interesting to me because this is a young site. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 05:00 PM)Unknown Wrote: IMO: Newer white econ van seen outside the house a day or two before, neighbors say. Perps cut the telephone alarm either the night of the killings or prior days. Go in through the garage into the kitchen where johnny and Lisa are. Johnny grabs a knife, Lisa freaks out and runs down the hall to the front of the house and up the stairs possibly hitting the alarm. She runs into her room and slams the door, then the perp kicks or rams through the door and pulls her down the stairs buy her hair while Lisa reaches up and digs her nails into the arm or face of the perp. In the mean time 2 perps try to over take johnny, but johnny get a few licks in with the knife. blood everywhere in the kitchen (guy who had to clean it up says: There was a lot of blood in there. They duct tape Johnny up and subdue Lisa. They begin torturing them buy asphyxiation to get what information they want. The perps begin rumbling through the house finding anything that points to drugs, money, and security systems to remove any recordings. The lighter and the Baggies were probably pulled out of Johnnys pocket while bounded looking for cash. Lisa begins to tell them anything they need to know. Unfortunately there's nothing of real value they can take other then two $20 dollar bills from a coin jar. The Iraq currency is also something that she probably told them. That her dad had made investments into the dinar. Re: Pargraph #1 - You said, "IMO" yet this also sounds like inside info. This sounds more like I would expect it have gone down - with a serious fight. Horrible. Re: Paragraph #2 - *researches currency trading* RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-06-2011 Reading her FB post about her husband, cousin and herself, all being dehydrated (in response to the murder of her son) smacked of narcissism. [/quote] Hee Hee. It also wreaked of stupidity. Hand your family a glass of water, woman. I am wondering if her 'service industry' title is a cover for allowing many people to appear at her door. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-06-2011 it IS ok to speculate about how it went down as long as it's clear it's just the poster's OPINION. i don't verify people who say they are related to cases. but i will tell you all this...in other cases i have had principals, parties and relatives here reading and even posting. shit i even had Homeland Security here on one case. i thought i was going to the Federal pen for sure! i am very mindful to keep what i say accurate. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 04:04 PM)OhioGuy Wrote: First off, since this is my first post I might ramble a little bit to include all my thoughts. Thank you Ohio guy, my few posts from earlier that Pink has ruled as false conjecture are absolutely true and not rumors. One yes a family member that is on Lisa's side has confirmed that it was a very, violent crime scene with evidence of a massive struggle and infact, YES a great deal of DNA has been collected, A Lot from Lisa's body alone. It is my real and not imagined knowledge from that family member that the likelihood is that this was pre-meditated, the perps were known and it was indeed personal. I also notice all the comments regarding the lack of statement from Lisa's family, this is not true. Her uncle has been on local and national news and was on Nancy Grace on Friday night speaking on behalf of the Straub family. Her parents are handling this in a way much different from the Clarke's because they are more focused on their daughter's loss and ensuring that their opinions, accusations or statements do not interfere with the LE investigation. Whereas not to be cruel to a woman in grief, all JC's moms ranting appears a little more self-serving than supportive of LE and the investigation. The Straub family are very kind and educated people who realize it is better to stay quiet and let LE do their job. LS's uncle was chosen to speak because he has been the Rossford Fire Chief for 12 years and is familiar with and respective of the investigation process. So her family has not remained quiet, they have just handled it in a prudent and respectful manner. They respect and have trust in LE and are confident this case will be solved. They have done the right thing, fully cooperated with police and instead of trying to get publicity for their pain, remained silent and cooperative in ensuring that the killer(S) of these two young people be brought to justice. Lisa's family is very loving and are great people, I feel that needed to be stated due to the many inquiries into "where they are".... when in fact, her uncle Jim Verbosky has been all over the media trying to do everything in his power to catch these evil criminals. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 05:17 PM)shitstorm Wrote: uh-oh It's okay. This won't be the last time you see something like that in Mock. When a forum only has a couple rules, shit happens. Provocative statements are made daily here & that's alright. Things get said & we move on. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-06-2011 good post Curiouscat. i've made you a member. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 05:24 PM)brett_ashley Wrote: Similar to another poster today, my parents are original homeowners in the neighborhood where this occurred and live only a few blocks away. They do not personally know the families involved, however, and I came across this thread because my parents have relied primarily on the local newspaper for information about this awful crime -- and the local newspaper coverage has given them the impression that it is a "robbery gone bad". Without much additional details, they were in fact fearful that this might be a random and violent gang of robbers with economic motivations. My parents are older retirees and perhaps not representative of the neighborhood population, but to say that locals are unaffected by this crime is probably not wholly accurate. Especially given what the Unknown person just posted. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 05:46 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: it IS ok to speculate about how it went down as long as it's clear it's just the poster's OPINION. Add a good disclaimer to the site. "The views and opinions expressed on this site belong to the individual posters and are not those of the site owner, etc, etc, etc..." RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - browntabby1226 - 02-06-2011 If the alarm was messed with before the incident (wires cut) wouldn't the alarm company or police know this and send someone to the house? It just seems like common sense to me. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 05:49 PM)curiouscat Wrote:(02-06-2011, 04:04 PM)OhioGuy Wrote: First off, since this is my first post I might ramble a little bit to include all my thoughts. So, the appearances about the kind of family that Lisa came from are true. Do you happen to know if I am right about Johhny NOT living there? I cannot imagine they would have allowed it, for several reasons. It's so sad. The truth is that even good families can't protect their kids from bad judgement. Lisa was young, Johnny probably had charm, and meeting him cost her her life. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 05:52 PM)Duchess Wrote:(02-06-2011, 05:17 PM)shitstorm Wrote: uh-oh No sweat. I post at a place called the Proxy Whore Refuge. I'll let you imagine what goes on there. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Paul Eaze - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 01:13 PM)pinkyfloyd Wrote:(02-06-2011, 01:11 PM)Jane Wrote:(02-06-2011, 11:18 AM)Paul Eaze Wrote: Listening to the full 911 recordings, Mom says something very curious to me around the 6 or 7 minute mark; she says something to the effect that she wants the police to go out to the house to find out who "abducted" her son and "robbed him". At the point in time she says this, how would she have any idea what exactly happened to her son? The fake crying. The attention-seeking behavior. The weird over-reacting 911 calls. I'm suspicious of her odd behavior. I don't know if she was directly involved or not, but I believe she knows a lot more about what happened to her son than she is letting on. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Paul Eaze - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 02:34 PM)browntabby1226 Wrote: Is that police record on the mother from 1970? Maybe she was a teen then and straightened her life out.Anything more recent other than order of protection against her. I think that's her dob. Maytee lists that date as her dob on her fb page. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-06-2011 it IS her DOB. and Paul, if i neglected to welcome you....WELCOME! it's been busy in here. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-06-2011 (02-06-2011, 06:11 PM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-06-2011, 05:24 PM)brett_ashley Wrote: Similar to another poster today, my parents are original homeowners in the neighborhood where this occurred and live only a few blocks away. They do not personally know the families involved, however, and I came across this thread because my parents have relied primarily on the local newspaper for information about this awful crime -- and the local newspaper coverage has given them the impression that it is a "robbery gone bad". Without much additional details, they were in fact fearful that this might be a random and violent gang of robbers with economic motivations. My parents are older retirees and perhaps not representative of the neighborhood population, but to say that locals are unaffected by this crime is probably not wholly accurate. Especially given what the Unknown person just posted. Jeez, I keep replying to this post and my connection goes down when I hit reply. Brett, thank you for the insights about the neighborhood. IMO, the type of people that Johnny hung around with may have viewed this as a "rich" neighborhood. Rich is relative. If the assertions about a safe are correct and if Johnny's acquaintances got wind of it, they may thought there was something there worth stealing. No way would I think that the people of the neighborhood wouldn't be unnerved by such a terrible event. Just the thought of these psychopaths having been in their vicinity would shatter any sense of safety. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-06-2011 Truman Capote wrote "In Cold Blood" a book later made into a movie with Robert Blake as one of the killers, who heard of a family that had money hidden away in their home. He heard this inviting romour while he was an inmate in prison and later executed all of the members of peaceful hardworking family in something that was only gonna be a "robbery". I think this crime here in Ohio is more sinister and personal but no less intrigued by its circumstances as it unfolds. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-06-2011 hi and welcome Zero...in case i forgot to earlier. it's been a madhouse here! i remember the Clutter case well. |