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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - browntabby1226 - 02-07-2011

Maybe reward is to see if anyone tells them what they may already know.Trying to see if someone sings..

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-07-2011

Hi to everyone,

I'm new here but was really drawn in by this story after watching it on NG (Nancy Grace). Did anyone else happen to catch what the uncle said on NG about the plastic bags and duct tape? I heard him say that the murders brought it with them, did anyone else happen to hear this too?

I too agree with everyone else who thinks that this Tiffany knows much more that she is saying at this point, she may even know who, in their group of friends, would be able to commit an awful crime like this! I still don't understand why she didn't call the cops when she heard what she heard and then hearing the phone being dropped and no response from either one after that? Especially when they were coming to pick you up? Then nothing? Why wouldn't she just call the cops, instead of waiting and wasting so much time?? That even sounds fishy to me, if I heard what she heard and then couldn't get either one of them on the phone again, oh yeah, cops would be called for sure!

Well I hope to get to know everyone here, it seems like cool place.
Nice to meet everyone!

Did anyone else hear the uncle say that on NG?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-07-2011

welcome EastCoastKat...good to meet you...Smiley_emoticons_smile

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-07-2011

The mother was told that the last thing they heard from her son before his phone went dead, Who are you, what do you want and what are you doing here, then nothing? I am a mother of 2 adult children and believe me, if I would have heard what she heard, I would have called the cops and ran over there as fast as I could!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-07-2011

Thank You Lady Cop, nice to meet you too, you have a great forum here!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 04:51 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: The mother was told that the last thing they heard from her son before his phone went dead, Who are you, what do you want and what are you doing here, then nothing? I am a mother of 2 adult children and believe me, if I would have heard what she heard, I would have called the cops and ran over there as fast as I could!

I agree! That's partially what has me so skeptical of the mom! If you've read through the thread, there are a lot of comments thinking the mother knows more than she's saying.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 02:17 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: thanks..yes him for sure. and gang shit for sure. or gangbanger wannabe. learned it in prison no doubt. he IS a victim here, there is no doubt in my mind that lowlife associates are involved. he was very young and stupid and impressionable when he went to prison, and probably got sucked right into the gangs to protect himself. or thought it was cool. Signs_173 wasted life.

Yup, and his genius mother was, obviously, a contributing factor.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 02:25 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: Thanks for the welcome and the avatar compliment. Yes, such a waste I agree.
I can't wait to read more, I'll stay tuned.


I love your AV, too. Such a cute little girl. Reminds me of Steve Irwin's Bindi.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - InterestingEnough - 02-07-2011


Hi...i took most of today off so i'm behind. but when i got online i had a letter from the local detective. Smiley_emoticons_stumm

i know prison tats when i see them. not very well done (professional) and often a mark of "pride" and recognition by some gangs. sheriff depts., including mine, have big books of tats and their affiliations. photos are taken in booking and by gang units.


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And I don't suppose you are going to release the details of that letter? =)

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 07:51 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: i'd like to see a link to ted bundy using plastic bags. he bludgeoned and strangled.
i attended ted's execution. he whimpered and whined all the way to the electric chair.

Wow. Why? Were you involved in the Florida cases?



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-07-2011

Has anyone been following the FB pages of JC's mom and the Justice for LS and JC page? I am heartbroken for this woman, but her posts are ridiculous. She focuses on HERSELF way too often! "I'm so sad, I can't eat,I'm in so much pain" Just strikes a nerve with me, I expect to see "I miss my son" but she really focuses so much more on herself!

I just can't shake the feeling that something is just not right with this woman and her "story".

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - DCTim - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 04:51 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: The mother was told that the last thing they heard from her son before his phone went dead, Who are you, what do you want and what are you doing here, then nothing? I am a mother of 2 adult children and believe me, if I would have heard what she heard, I would have called the cops and ran over there as fast as I could!

Actually, I think the mom did exactly that - once she got the phone call, she called 911 (her first 911 call), and then it seems as though she drove to the house herself (with cousin) and enroute made the 2nd call to 911.

If Tiffany was not involved (and my mind is not made up on that one way or the other) and she didn't have knowledge of any pre-planned robbery, etc, she probably didn't want to call the police herself, knowing that there were likely drugs in the house. Imagine how it would've been for her if nothing was wrong, but still, she sent the police to her friends' house, replete with drugs and drug paraphernalia,while JC and LS were passed out from too much partying. When I used to party, the last thing I'd ever want was the cops to show up at my door - even to check on my safety.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 05:22 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Has anyone been following the FB pages of JC's mom and the Justice for LS and JC page? I am heartbroken for this woman, but her posts are ridiculous. She focuses on HERSELF way too often! "I'm so sad, I can't eat,I'm in so much pain" Just strikes a nerve with me, I expect to see "I miss my son" but she really focuses so much more on herself!

I just can't shake the feeling that something is just not right with this woman and her "story".
i said that somewhere here. she sounds deranged and like she is speaking to a lover, not a child. i think she is heavily medicated.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 05:27 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-07-2011, 05:22 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Has anyone been following the FB pages of JC's mom and the Justice for LS and JC page? I am heartbroken for this woman, but her posts are ridiculous. She focuses on HERSELF way too often! "I'm so sad, I can't eat,I'm in so much pain" Just strikes a nerve with me, I expect to see "I miss my son" but she really focuses so much more on herself!

I just can't shake the feeling that something is just not right with this woman and her "story".
i said that somewhere here. she sounds deranged and like she is speaking to a lover, not a child. i think she is heavily medicated.

Yes she does!! And in one post she says "I've got a secret to tell you". For some reason that creeped me out a little bit! After seeing her criminal record, I'd bet money that she's doped up 99% of the time! I understand she's grieving, but something's just not right!!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Kip - 02-07-2011

Don't know if it's true or not, but I've read that a condition of Johnny's community release was that he live with his parents. One of his co-defendents had the same terms applied to his release, but he petitioned and got permission to live elsewhere. There's no such notation on Johnny's file, so either he was living somewhere he wasn't supposed to be (with the knowledge and tacit permission of his parents) or he received permission and the public records haven't yet been updated.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-07-2011

(02-07-2011, 05:22 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Has anyone been following the FB pages of JC's mom and the Justice for LS and JC page? I am heartbroken for this woman, but her posts are ridiculous. She focuses on HERSELF way too often! "I'm so sad, I can't eat,I'm in so much pain" Just strikes a nerve with me, I expect to see "I miss my son" but she really focuses so much more on herself!

I just can't shake the feeling that something is just not right with this woman and her "story".

Hi, I'm local & in no way affiliated with either victem but I do live less than 3 miles away from where this happened & so I've been extremely interested in this case & have been following this message board since it was only a couple of pages long. I'm truly sorry to see comments about Johnny & his mom. I don't see how they're really relevant except to show that this young man didn't grow up in the best of circumstances. I just had to reply to this as someone who has lost a family member in a sudden & violent manner, not everyone expresses grief in the same way. I have been following both of the FB pages & it is heart wrenching to watch this womans grief played out. I don't blame her for their deaths & I don't blame her for expressing her grief. I think, if it were my child who were murdered & no one had been named as a suspect, I would be publicly talking to anyone who would listen to make sure that my child wasn't forgotten by the next big news story. I don't know.... I just don't see anything creepy or weird about a grieving mother who lost her oldest son in the manner that she did. Signs_173

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - netsleuth - 02-07-2011

"If Tiffany was not involved (and my mind is not made up on that one way or the other) and she didn't have knowledge of any pre-planned robbery, etc, she probably didn't want to call the police herself, knowing that there were likely drugs in the house. Imagine how it would've been for her if nothing was wrong, but still, she sent the police to her friends' house, replete with drugs and drug paraphernalia,while JC and LS were passed out from too much partying. When I used to party, the last thing I'd ever want was the cops to show up at my door - even to check on my safety."

I don't see any excuse for not calling cops. If she knew they were dealers, all the more reason to suspect a robbery IMHO. I am from a rough area of the Twin Cities. Unfortunately, I knew people who were involved in selling drugs many years ago. Had I been on the phone and heard anything like Tiffany supposedly did, I'd have called police immediately, not the Mom two hours later. My dealer friends were savvy enough not to allow a search without a warrant. They'd have understood my concern.

I agree that the Clarke family is a bit off, but as ladycop indicated this at best, explains Johnny's attachment to certain types of people. It does not mean they were involved IMHO.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-07-2011

these people were not citizens of the year. Johnny's people anyway. i am still not sure about Lisa. but her parents are good people.

if one of my sons was murdered, i would also be a complete basket case. my youngest was in a near-fatal car accident 2 years ago Christmas, and i was beside myself with terror. he is the love of my life. (photo here for 15 min., cute isn't he? Smiley_emoticons_smile ) you can have him if you can feed him. he eats like a yeti. and he is 6'5". he walks into ceiling fans. hah
my problem is when kids get killed i relate so personally that it's not healthy.

edited photo out.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LT_RN - 02-07-2011

A new quote from the Justice For JC and LS....Johnny and Lisa were two beautiful young people who were loved by many. Their friends and family members are in such pain over the horrific, senseless, demonic act that stole them away. Johnny's little brothers are heart broken and cry constantly, according to their mother. Please send them a kind message below.

This is crazy, we all know that the families are distraught. I believe it must be one on JC's family members running the page bc of the frequent mentioning of his family and their stress. Why do they keep telling us how upset his little brothers are-there are resources available for grieving, use them and stop telling the world! LS's family is being very quiet and are focusing on her rather than the publicity.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-07-2011

Freshbait78 and Kip...welcome!