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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:30 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 12:26 PM)curious Wrote: Oh no, looks like we have another case to follow in OH...I recommend checking out another one of LC's threads titled:

Double homicide of Ohio couple 'Cord Cox and Betheny Mehall'

If its the one I think it is.....they were found sitting in their car, each shot once from behind.

Yep that's the one, both were pursuing their nursing degree...God help us there's not some serial killer on the loose targeting nursing students


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-24-2011

Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa.
Tiffany calls Johnny.
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny.
Johnny's phone is turned off.
Tiffany calls Serita.
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell.
Serita calls Maytell.
Maytell calls LE. 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.)
LE visits Straubs ist time.
Lights ON in Straub house.
Nothing seen through windows.
Maytell calls LE. 2
LE visits Straubs 2nd time.
Lights OUT in Straub house.
Nothing seen through windows.
John travels to Straubs
Maytell travels to Straubs
Maytell is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window.

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - fabulous - 02-24-2011

Did Johnny have his own car?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - trixie - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:56 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa.
Tiffany calls Johnny.
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny.
Johnny's phone is turned off.
Tiffany calls Serita.
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell.
Serita calls Maytell.
Maytell calls LE. 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.)
LE visits Straubs ist time.
Lights ON in Straub house.
Nothing seen through windows.
Maytell calls LE. 2
LE visits Straubs 2nd time.
Lights OUT in Straub house.
Nothing seen through windows.
John travels to Straubs
Maytell travels to Straubs
Maytell is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window.

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.




I think you mean Maytee. Awink


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - esbee - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:56 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.)
LE visits Straubs 1st time.
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2nd 911 call
LE visits Straubs 2nd time.
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
John travels to Straubs per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee travels to Straubs
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3rd 911 call

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.

Red for confirmation just to get it straight in my mind. Also, weren't John and Maytee already at the house during the second 911 call? Did they leave or did just LE leave?


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:20 PM)notsure Wrote: I'm going to go and blend in. I'll be the naked guy in the corner eating potato skins.


The only way you are going to blend in is if everyone else is naked too...just sayin'. Awink



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:11 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 10:48 AM)esbee Wrote: I really apologize for this but I can't find it anywhere and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Does anyone have a link to the 911 phone call reporting having seen Johnny through the window?

AHA Now I bet the person who was looking for a basement
recalls that Maytee said she or her "military person" saw
Johnny in the basement.

I am still trying to figure out how they saw him but LE did not
UNLESS he was put there AFTER LE visited. Which we have
not discussed, right?

The blinds were slanted downward so you needed to be halfway up the window and looking down to see anything more than a foot from the wall. That is why the cousin had to be hoisted up.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:24 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Are you talking about the member's pics or something else? Just curious.


We have a photography forum here, if you look on the front page where all the forums are listed you should be able to see it. It's invisible to lurkers. 39



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kitty1 - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:32 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 12:25 PM)trixie Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 12:24 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Are you talking about the member's pics or something else? Just curious.



LC posted a link..


photography, Kitty, not the members photos:


http://mockforums.net/forum-22.html

Thanks LC! I've been a little absent-minded lately! hah

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-24-2011

Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.)
LE visits Straubs 1st time.
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source? LE did not see anything odd.
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2nd 911 call
LE visits Straubs 2nd time.
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
John travels to Straubs per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee travels to Straubs
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3rd 911 call

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-24-2011

I think you are right about them being there with LE.
LE told Tiffany to leave. That should be added there.
Hmmm. Does LE usually leave people at a scene?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:36 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I think you are right about them being there with LE.
LE told Tiffany to leave. That should be added there.
Hmmm. Does LE usually leave people at a scene?

I think Tiff left when the cops said to go. Parents stayed with police then everyone left and may even had gone back to their home (or just circled the block) and returned to "break in". I think Maytee even addressed this inan interview telling her husband something like "you gotta go back there". If they went all the home and returned then the accounted time can be explained but if all they did was drive around the block just long enough for LE to be "completelt gone" then its possible they were in the house for a while before calling LE back out there.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:36 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I think you are right about them being there with LE.
LE told Tiffany to leave. That should be added there.
Hmmm. Does LE usually leave people at a scene?

It was not considered a crime scene as this was following the 2nd 911 call prior to the bodies being found...

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:23 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 12:20 PM)notsure Wrote: I'm going to go and blend in. I'll be the naked guy in the corner eating potato skins.


The only way you are going to blend in is if everyone else is naked too...just sayin'. Awink

That would be an interesting DressCode for just one night....but not this night.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - esbee - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:34 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.) 1st call at 1:21 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 1st time. deputies arrived at 1:28 and stayed 11 minutes per LE statement
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. per LE statement (Major Keel)
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2nd 911 call at 2:06 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 2nd time. remain on scene 36 minutes per LE statement
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
John travels to Straubs per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee travels to Straubs
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3rd 911 call

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.


Just keeping notes in one place. Red is per Toledo Blade article here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cvz3a1F9idkJ:www.toledoblade.com/article/20110203/NEWS16/102030309/0/SPORTS03+deputies+actions+defended+lisa+straub&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Sean69 - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 12:56 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa.
Tiffany calls Johnny.
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. Let's not forget that Tiff has told two versions about this call - we don't know which version LE believes.
Johnny's phone is turned off.
Tiffany calls Serita.
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell.
Serita calls Maytell.
Maytell calls LE. 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.)
LE visits Straubs ist time.
Lights ON in Straub house.
Nothing seen through windows.
Maytell calls LE. 2
LE visits Straubs 2nd time.
Lights OUT in Straub house.
Nothing seen through windows.
John travels to Straubs
Maytell travels to Straubs
Maytell is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window.

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - toledoarea - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:48 PM)esbee Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 01:34 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.) 1st call at 1:21 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 1st time. deputies arrived at 1:28 and stayed 11 minutes per LE statement
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. per LE statement (Major Keel)
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2nd 911 call at 2:06 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 2nd time. remain on scene 36 minutes per LE statement
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
John travels to Straubs per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee travels to Straubs
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3rd 911 call

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.


Just keeping notes in one place. Red is per Toledo Blade article here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cvz3a1F9idkJ:www.toledoblade.com/article/20110203/NEWS16/102030309/0/SPORTS03+deputies+actions+defended+lisa+straub&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com

So when Tiffany picked up John. Sr. for a ride to the Straubs, where was Sharita? And where was the military relative during this time as well? because the military relative wasn't with Maytee. if the military relative was with Maytee, then Maytee would have had a babysitter to watch Maytees other boys while going with Tiffany and John Sr. to the Straubs

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-24-2011

:wheelchair:
(02-24-2011, 12:33 PM)esbee Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 12:25 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 10:48 AM)esbee Wrote: I really apologize for this but I can't find it anywhere and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Does anyone have a link to the 911 phone call reporting having seen Johnny through the window?

http://www.toledoonthemove.com/news/story.aspx?id=576342

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/07/ijvm.01.html

Thanks Zero. The problem is the Toledo on the Move article only plays two of the tapes with subsequent calls to detectives. I hate the NG/JVM transcripts because they edit things out of order. I've found "ghosts" of the third call on the net but all the links are broken. I really would've been interested in hearing that third call for myself. Smiley_emoticons_slash

I have looked thru my notes and found some links but they seem to be daed now...I refer you to P9 post 113, and copy them below but maybe toledo blade must be asked directly by request to renew access to them

P9 post 113
911call#1 http://toledoblade.com/assets/mpg/TO8007221.MP3
911call#2 http://toledoblade.com/assets/mpg/TO8007221.MP3
911call#3 http://www.toledoblade.com/assets/mpg/TO8006721.MP3

And then the only other link I find seems to access all three calls thu a different path but ends up at the same place.

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/story.aspx?id=576342

:wheelchair: looks like tey have been disabled

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:54 PM)toledoarea Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 01:48 PM)esbee Wrote: [quote='TotallyCurious' pid='134734' dateline='1298568857']
Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.) 1st call at 1:21 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 1st time. deputies arrived at 1:28 and stayed 11 minutes per LE statement
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. per LE statement (Major Keel)
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2nd 911 call at 2:06 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 2nd time. remain on scene 36 minutes per LE statement
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
John travels to Straubs per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee travels to Straubs
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3rd 911 call

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.


Just keeping notes in one place. Red is per Toledo Blade article here:
LC Once this is time line is finished can you put a copy in the facts of the case thread so it's easy to find, and reference.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - notsure - 02-24-2011

(02-24-2011, 01:46 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 01:23 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-24-2011, 12:20 PM)notsure Wrote: I'm going to go and blend in. I'll be the naked guy in the corner eating potato skins.


The only way you are going to blend in is if everyone else is naked too...just sayin'. Awink

That would be an interesting DressCode for just one night....but not this night.

yea I would be embarrased if I got carded for a beer too. "thats the hairest 3 year old I've ever scene." (ok I;m done with my offtopic gutter humor. just needed some levity since no presser.)