(02-25-2011, 12:01 AM)pspence Wrote: I'm so addicted to this site...as tragic as this horrible thing is, I couldn't help but laugh at you dreaming being on the beach sunbathing with Maytee and the other post of on google earth spinning around the house admitting they're loosing it...I run in the house after work to see the latest...must admit though could have done without the 4 pages posted about Maytee's eyebrows...so so so horrible...all of it...they were such a beautiful couple...

I do have to take issue to all of those who are judgemental about how anyone's kids turn out...all I can say is they either must not have kids or their kids are too young to "get it"...mine were all 3 grown with every advantage, absolutely adored, loving father/mother, church, etc. ...let me put it this way...in their teens and early 20's drove my husb and I nuts...we now look back and laugh and joke "there was a lot of drugs, sex and rock n-roll and we weren't geting any of it!"...now we can smile because they are all settled (one going through divorce) but over all fine, fun adults...but parents cannot control what their teen/young adults do. You can only love them and pray and do your best.

Maytee and her husband her Lisa's parents, my heart breaks for all of them...from all accounts, JC was a fun, cut up of a guy...looks like he got in over his head in something...my youngest daughter came home from college and freaked out as she showed us credit card debt of over $10,000 she got herself into...I'm just saying...different cultures but same mistakes...I think drugs (and especially the "business of drugs" ) are disastrous on our society and individuals but let's be honest...our past 2 presidents admittedly did drugs...JC was just in an environment way over his head...young and foolish like so many others...I bet if LS and JC had been allowed to live, had children, etc. they would have gotten their lives straightened out and been a darling little family...so sad/tragic...now no chance for that...

(02-24-2011, 11:17 PM)kitty1 Wrote:

(02-24-2011, 10:12 PM)dontbedumb Wrote:

(02-24-2011, 06:58 PM)Snoopy Wrote:

(02-24-2011, 02:46 PM)DCTim Wrote: I learned from a VERY reliable source today that LE knows who the perps were. Suffice to say that some of the recent contributors here were right on the mark.

I think what they're waiting for is DNA evidence to be returned before any arrests are made.

Sadly, what we have heard about LS being tortured is evidently correct. Worse than we've read here I'm told.

With that being said, what time frame are we looking at for DNA results? I know that some testing takes longer than others, but its been nearly a month- do you have any idea, how much longer it may be?

I was wondering the same thing. How long for DNA to come back? Does Ohio have it to where if you where ever convicted of a felony charge that you had to submit your DNA????? I know thats what happens in my state.

no Ohio doesn't do that. sorry if this has already been answered. i am behind

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.

(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.

(02-25-2011, 12:24 AM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.

pspence was quoting onefortheroad but didn't use the quote function.

(02-25-2011, 12:24 AM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.

pspence was quoting onefortheroad but didn't use the quote function.

(02-25-2011, 12:31 AM)pspence Wrote: Ok DCTim...I need to get some sleep...I usually go to bed at 9:00pm...have a stressful job ...need my sleep...can't you give us a HINT??????

(02-25-2011, 12:01 AM)pspence Wrote: I do have to take issue to all of those who are judgemental about how anyone's kids turn out...

(02-25-2011, 12:25 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:21 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(02-25-2011, 12:06 AM)pspence Wrote: what does M*P*Y* mean??????


As if this wasn't horrific enough from the beginning, the confirmation of torture makes it even worse. For some reason, my first thought when I read that was M*P*Y - this was the work of a special type of sadist and quite likely someone who's used to this type of brutality. I'd put my money on him and AP, and TW up to her neck with the setup and the alibi after.

PS didn't you back in post #3207 defend TW. I read on another site you post on that you became friendly with her. May I be so forward as to ask what made you change your mind.

LOL sometimes I forget that I can be forward here & drop the bullshit. Although I do agree with alot of pspences post, I did think the same thing. I can't see how anyone could see TW's innocense in this honestly.

(02-25-2011, 12:39 AM)pspence Wrote: You're right...very scary stuff...I am a little bit of an incurable optimist that hoped all of this "gang" stuff wasn't as horrible as it appeared and that most of them were just "playing around with it"...and that the ones that hurt Lisa and Johnny were just really rare psychopaths...but i "get" what you're saying...I'm feeling so sad because I know what you say is true...