(02-26-2011, 04:49 PM)pspence Wrote: Maybe Maytee set it up so that Johnny would go pick up Tiffany with Lisa after Lisa got off work to make sure the house was robbed first. Maybe Lisa told Johnny she wanted to change out of her stinky restaurant clothes first before they went anywhere. Who knows? Regardless, this was a professional hit, we'll never know who did it, and the people that do know don't want bags over their heads.

I left this a few days ago and it's what i'm sticking with





Gave me chill bumps...this could very well be true and so over our heads...I still don't think Maytee would have in any way "sent them over there for money, to rob or whatever"....they (Cuban mafia or whomever involved with her/husb) could have been following Johnny or heard through the grapevine that johnny was staying with his rich girlfriends' parents house while they're out of town...was a professional hit to get back at Maytee but never do I think she would send these dangerous people over there...I think she definitly "knew" that someone (because of her owing $ or snitching or Johnny because of owing $ or snitching) could have hurt Johnny and Lisa and that's why she was so freaked out on the phone...her worst night mare coming true possibly of someone hurting her child...knowing the dangerous people they have hung with (she and her son) and what they are capable of doing if owe $$ or snitch on...

found this picture...that's Lisa on the left...

(02-26-2011, 03:58 PM)pspence Wrote: I wished I could take credit for finding this but someone put it on an earlier post...I think this says it all...it was printed with a bunch of other quotes from gang members ...from a Toledo publication back in June 2010 by experts in gangs...these are actual excerpts from gang members...

"better watCh what you say Mr.Prez, Cuzz we'll tie you up and make you watch while we fuCCin your Bitch infront of you. fuCC around"

that's what they do "if you snitch". Unbelievable but I bet this was a (by these psycho whacko criminals) a simple standard gang retalitation against Johnny probably just for telling the police some scoop on some creepy gang guy he had befriended in prison ...all to just try to lesson his time "in the joint".

The bat, trashing the place, all secondary....

(02-26-2011, 03:21 PM)pspence Wrote: RIP Johnny ‎;,,,( i never took my eyes of them all 3 of my boys ;,,,( that nite i talk to him 4 times ;,,,,( its not fair ;,,,( i wish they wouldve been here and not out at her house ;,,,,( i cnt wait til these evil demons are caught n fry but it still wont bring my johnny r lisa back ;,,,( its just not fair at all i would give my life just so his lil brothers could have himm back ;,,,,(
about an hour ago

This just posted on one of the Johnny/Lisa many facebook pages by Maytee...interesting how she said "I wish they wouldve been here and not at her house"....ummmm wierd thing to say...I bet Lisa's mom is thinking "I wished she had never met ......"

(02-26-2011, 05:01 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 03:21 PM)pspence Wrote: RIP Johnny ‎;,,,( i never took my eyes of them all 3 of my boys ;,,,( that nite i talk to him 4 times ;,,,,( its not fair ;,,,( i wish they wouldve been here and not out at her house ;,,,,( i cnt wait til these evil demons are caught n fry but it still wont bring my johnny r lisa back ;,,,( its just not fair at all i would give my life just so his lil brothers could have himm back ;,,,,(
about an hour ago

This just posted on one of the Johnny/Lisa many facebook pages by Maytee...interesting how she said "I wish they wouldve been here and not at her house"....ummmm wierd thing to say...I bet Lisa's mom is thinking "I wished she had never met ......"

she talked to johnny 4 times that night... interesting

i'm hearing through sources that certain people are searching me out on the net. i've done crime forums for about 9 years now.
they're welcome to do that. i have nothing to hide. and if they locate personal information about me that they wish to utilize in some nefarious fashion, well it's been tried before by dirtbags i've arrested.

oh, just as a point of information, i am well-armed. that's not a threat. it's a promise.
anybody threatens me i will put a cap in their head so fast they'll never feel it.

(02-26-2011, 04:33 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 04:30 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: I became interested because Maytee was on my fb friends list. I read what happened to her son, became interested, and started googling all I could find and eventually found this forum.

you knew her before the murders personally?

(02-26-2011, 04:36 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 04:34 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: some say either could be the father?

The one she is shown kissing in her pics on her fb, is the one that is claiming the baby, and she is acknowledging on her fb. Or was until 3 days ago when I unfriended her.

(02-26-2011, 05:04 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i'm hearing through sources that certain people are searching me out on the net. i've done crime forums for about 9 years now.
they're welcome to do that. i have nothing to hide. and if they locate personal information about me that they wish to utilize in some nefarious fashion, well it's been tried before by dirtbags i've arrested.

oh, just as a point of information, i am well-armed. that's not a threat. it's a promise.
anybody threatens me i will put a cap in their head so fast they'll never feel it.

(02-26-2011, 05:09 PM)toledoarea Wrote: It sounds more like a threat to shut this site down LC.

(02-26-2011, 05:04 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i'm hearing through sources that certain people are searching me out on the net. i've done crime forums for about 9 years now.
they're welcome to do that. i have nothing to hide. and if they locate personal information about me that they wish to utilize in some nefarious fashion, well it's been tried before by dirtbags i've arrested.

oh, just as a point of information, i am well-armed. that's not a threat. it's a promise.
anybody threatens me i will put a cap in their head so fast they'll never feel it.

(02-26-2011, 05:09 PM)toledoarea Wrote: It sounds more like a threat to shut this site down LC.

(02-26-2011, 05:04 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i'm hearing through sources that certain people are searching me out on the net. i've done crime forums for about 9 years now.
they're welcome to do that. i have nothing to hide. and if they locate personal information about me that they wish to utilize in some nefarious fashion, well it's been tried before by dirtbags i've arrested.

oh, just as a point of information, i am well-armed. that's not a threat. it's a promise.
anybody threatens me i will put a cap in their head so fast they'll never feel it.

(02-26-2011, 05:02 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: found this picture...that's Lisa on the left...

(02-26-2011, 05:18 PM)stoof725 Wrote: So I got an email from TW threatning to beat me up because of something I said on FB....

(02-26-2011, 05:18 PM)stoof725 Wrote: So I got an email from TW threatning to beat me up because of something I said on FB....

(02-26-2011, 05:19 PM)toledoarea Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 05:18 PM)stoof725 Wrote: So I got an email from TW threatning to beat me up because of something I said on FB....

Post it on here and then snitch