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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BoogyWoogy - 02-08-2011

can anyone give me the link to either show jc mom was on tonite, I can not find it.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - efyou - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 02:10 AM)BoogyWoogy Wrote: can anyone give me the link to either show jc mom was on tonite, I can not find it.

Yeah. I heard she was on Nancy Grace and all she talked about was the baby in the toilet case.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-08-2011

this must be it, right Sharit?
http://www.myspace.com/_lisababii_/photos/829510#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A7588357%7D

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - sharit - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 02:13 AM)Jane Wrote: this must be it, right Sharit?
http://www.myspace.com/_lisababii_/photos/829510#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A7588357%7D
yes! thats it. thank you. now if it is not ashes then why is she wearing that?


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BoogyWoogy - 02-08-2011

Yes, just watched all of that, sad again, but not what we wanted to find.thank you for the help

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-08-2011

Just suffered through an hour of Nancy Grace and her repeatedly flushing toilet.

Reminded me of why we don't usually watch TV except to replay the news on the internet.

I don't know how people can stand this crap, if you'll pardon the expression.

Anyway, bad tip. No Mrs. Clarke or anything about the case.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 02-08-2011

I hope someone posts the interview with JC's mom that was on Jane Velez-Mitchell Issues. Or posts it to Utube with a link to it on this site. .

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BoogyWoogy - 02-08-2011

agree, someone help us out

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - efyou - 02-08-2011

I almost went insane looking at that damn toilet. I wish I could give Nancy Grace a swirly.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 02:19 AM)Methusala Wrote: Just suffered through an hour of Nancy Grace and her repeatedly flushing toilet.

Reminded me of why we don't usually watch TV except to replay the news on the internet.

I don't know how people can stand this crap, if you'll pardon the expression.

Anyway, bad tip. No Mrs. Clarke or anything about the case.

I saw about half, till I realized the interview's with Jane Velez Mitchell, & her show's repeat is in the wee hours of the morning.l52



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RarePenguin - 02-08-2011

Here is the info on Tiffanys page
(02-06-2011, 05:00 PM)MzFruit Wrote:
(02-06-2011, 04:59 PM)RarePenguin Wrote: Is that Tiffany? I had seen this link on another site as for the friend Tiffany... must be different girl with the same name that was also a friend of Lisa's... http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000705403254#!/profile.php?id=100000705403254&sk=wall

That IS the Tiffany



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 12:30 AM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I taped the mom on Jane Valez Mitchell, which will rerun at 4 10 am.
This is a totally amazing interview by Jane.
The mother says she (mother) knew how to get into the house
"i watched them take the key in and out of a box (to open the house)

Exact quotes:
"Johnny was in barber school."
"Whoever did this was trying to make a statement of some sort."
"Lisa had a very jealous x boyfriend."
"Lisa's boyfriend was in prison for robbery and just got out a couple months
ago." (Yet she refused to speak of her son's prison record.
"My son had no enemies. Lisa would have more connected to this than my son would. Someone knew her and knew how to get into the house."
(Remember, she had earlier said that she had watched them use the key
on many occasions. Why was she at Lisa's house?"
"The girl met us out there." (The telephone girl.)
"The second time I went out there..." (Mom had been at the house twice.)

One real real freaky thing was the photos shown on the page were ALL
of MOM and SON. P

I just suffered through an entire hour of Nancy Grace, albeit in the background while I was doing other things, and this interview was (apparently) on Jane Valez Mitchell!

Well, these are some very interesting revelations. Indeed, why in the hell would this women have ever been to the Straubs' home and witnessed where a key was kept? Maybe that's the key found under Lisa's body - the house key. And, she was there was TWO times? I wonder if it was that night or if the other time was another day - like when she learned where the key was kept.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 02:15 AM)sharit Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 02:13 AM)Jane Wrote: this must be it, right Sharit?
http://www.myspace.com/_lisababii_/photos/829510#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A7588357%7D
yes! thats it. thank you. now if it is not ashes then why is she wearing that?

cocaine? Or maybe she just thought it was pretty? I don't know, & you're welcomeSmiley_emoticons_smile



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 02:22 AM)efyou Wrote: I almost went insane looking at that damn toilet. I wish I could give Nancy Grace a swirly.

no shit!



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - efyou - 02-08-2011

Oh ok it wasn't Nancy Grace it was Jane Velez-Mitchell. Airs at 1:10 am here so I'll probably watch that later tonight.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-08-2011

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/07/ijvm.01.html

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MAYTEE LA CUBANA VAZQUEZ, VICTIM`S MOTHER: You need to get the police out to 2161 Longacre Lane. My son is in the basement tied up in this house. I just saw him through the window. The police were out here earlier and did absolutely nothing! All cell phones are on the ground, and we can see the people. Him and his girlfriend are tied up in the basement!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, horror as two young lives are snuffed out, and their killer is on the loose as we speak. Was this a robbery gone bad? Or was this couple specifically targeted, and if so, why? A grieving mom joins me tonight in her desperate search for justice.

The bodies of her 21-year-old son, Johnny Clarke, and his 20-year-old girlfriend, Lisa Straub, were discovered inside their Ohio home a week ago. Their hands were tied; their heads were covered with plastic bags. The couple appears to have suffocated to death. There were no signs of a break-in.

Earlier that night, Johnny was on the phone with a friend when Johnny suddenly started speaking to some apparent stranger who`s in the house, and he drops the phone. That worried friend who was on the other end of the line calls Johnny`s mom eventually. His mom then makes the first of three calls to 911.

Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VAZQUEZ: All she hears is the phone drop and my son Johnny saying, "Who are you? What do you want? What are you doing here?"

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Police made two visits to the home. They say they walked around the house, peered in the windows, but saw nothing wrong.

Finally, Johnny`s dad went to the house, kicked in the door and made this horrific discovery.

So what happened to Johnny and Lisa? What are your theories? Give me a call: 1-877-JVM-SAYS.

Straight out to my very special guest tonight, Maytee Vazquez, Johnny Clarke`s mother.

First of all, Maytee, our deepest condolences. We are so very sorry this has happened to you. I can`t imagine what you are feeling right now. We want to help you find justice, and to that end, tell us about your son. He was yelling into the phone, "Who are you?" What do you think happened?

VAZQUEZ: I think that him and Lisa were supposed to have guests come over, from what I`m hearing, and somehow I believe in my mind that this girl that made this phone call knows more than what she`s telling. I think it was a setup. I think it was premeditated. I think they knew the parents were going to be gone and out of town.

These people had gone out there a few nights in a row shooting pool with the kids. And they went in there to rob them. The girl called...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Maytee, you -- Maytee, if you could look up at me. I`m sorry, ma`am, if you could look up into the camera. Thank you so much. This girl, who apparently she waited before calling? In other words, she`s on the other end of the line. Your son goes, "Who are you? What do you want?" Drops the phone and she doesn`t immediately call for help? She waits. Is that true?

VAZQUEZ: She waits two hours. She waits two hours to call a friend of his that knows me and tells the friend, "I think something really bad happened to John and Lisa. I was on the phone with them. I heard such and such," you know, what you repeated on the show earlier. "And I heard Johnny drop the phone. I`ve gone by the house a few times. It looks ransacked. It looks like cabinets and doors are open. I think somebody needs to call Johnny`s mom and tell them something bad has happened."

And I asked the friend that called me to give me her cell phone number. She talks to me, tells me the same story. I`m asking her, "Why aren`t you calling the police when you were on the phone with them at 11? Anybody in their normal mind would have called the police if something like this is happening." And she has no explanation. So...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I -- there`s so many things that I don`t understand. No. 1, if there`s no break-in, how does this person or persons get in to this home where your son was staying with his girlfriend without him realizing they`d gotten into the house? Because he`s on the phone...

VAZQUEZ: The garage door.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What? The garage door!

VAZQUEZ: The garage door.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So the garage door`s open.

VAZQUEZ: Everyone -- everyone would enter in and out through the garage door. There was a key that would sit in a box next to the door that goes from the garage into the home. I`ve watched the kids many times pick out the key out of the box, open the door to the house, and put the key right back in. Unless the kid...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. So you think it`s somebody that knew how to get into this house and maybe had been there before and had some kind of relationship with your son?

VAZQUEZ: Or with Lisa. Lisa.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Or with the girlfriend.

VAZQUEZ: Because she knew more kids out in Springfield. My son didn`t live in Springfield.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What was your son doing there? Your son is what, 21?

VAZQUEZ: Twenty-one.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What did he do? What did he do? Was he at school? Did he have a job?

VAZQUEZ: Johnny was in barber school. Johnny was in barber school. And Johnny had been staying with Lisa for the past few weeks. The kids were back and forth between my house and Lisa`s house. They would stay at my house a week or two. They would go to Lisa`s house a week or two. They were always back and forth.

Since the parents had the cruise planned to go out of town, the kids were going to be out there house-sitting.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Police have raised the possibility that this might be a robbery gone bad. However, how do you explain that the cell phones, the wallets and the computers of your son, who was viciously murdered, and his girlfriend, who was also murdered, were left behind? And they also found a key stamped with the numbers 544 under Lisa`s body. So do you think that this was a robbery, or does it seem like something else was going on here?

VAZQUEZ: I think it was premeditated. I think their intent was robbery.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, why not take all of that, then?

VAZQUEZ: Well -- I don`t know if there was money in the wallet or not. I think whoever did this is probably trying to make a statement of some type. She had a very jealous ex-boyfriend.

You know, the kids were very kind kids, very trusting. My son would give the shirt off his back to anyone that needed it. He cut hair for a living until he graduated from barber school. That`s what he was doing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I have to ask you this, and this is not in any way, shape or form to -- you know, embarrass you or the family, but we are trying to solve this. And we want to find justice for you and your family. You`ve been through hell. Your son did have a criminal history. He served about a year and a half for robberies he committed back when he was 18.

VAZQUEZ: No, no. I`m not going to go into none of that, no. I`m not.

Contd below

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-08-2011

Part 2

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Quick question. OK. Quick question.

VAZQUEZ: No.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Do you think he had any enemies? That`s all I`m trying to figure out.

VAZQUEZ: No, he did not have any enemies. And actually, Lisa`s boyfriend was in prison for robbery and just got out of prison a couple months ago.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes...

VAZQUEZ: Lisa`s ex-boyfriend was in prison for robbery. Yes, my son, no, he didn`t have any enemies. This has nothing to do with my son.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK, OK.

VAZQUEZ: She would be more connected to this than my son would.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s...

VAZQUEZ: These people knew...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Go ahead.

VAZQUEZ: These people knew her and they knew how to get into her house.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Can we rewind and take a...

VAZQUEZ: My son did not live there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. And listen, I know you are suffering so much. We want to be part of making this a step toward justice. OK? We understand that this is just the worst thing that could ever happen to a mother is to lose their son.

VAZQUEZ: This is the most horrible thing that could ever happen to anyone. These people are demons that killed my son and Lisa. They need to be found, and justice needs to be served on them, OK?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Absolutely. And we want to...

VAZQUEZ: These people need the death sentence. And somebody needs to crack and come forward. OK? Somebody needs to come forward, because somebody knows what happened there that night.

When I spoke to his friends, the house he was at before he went to pick up Lisa from work where he had been playing his X-box Live, he told them, "I`m going to pick Lisa up from work. We`re going back to the house. We have people coming over. We`re going to shoot some pool." OK?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now let me ask you about this. I want to ask you about this. Police visited the home twice after you called 911. And they walked around the house, and they said that essentially nothing seemed suspicious.

I think we can play a little bit of the 911 call here. Let`s listen to that.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DETECTIVE CATHY STOOKSBURY, LUCAS COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE: The family members that were concerned because they couldn`t get hold of John. Looked through windows that we could see through, our officers could see through. Didn`t see anything amiss.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. So the officers went to the house. That`s a spokesperson. They looked around the house. They didn`t see anything amiss, so they didn`t go into the house. Then your husband or Johnny`s father gets to the house. He props himself on somebody`s shoulders, and he sees in a window. And he sees...

VAZQUEZ: No, that`s wrong.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Correct me. Tell me.

VAZQUEZ: OK, I will correct you. From the time I got the call from the girl that another girl called her that said she had spoke to Johnny at 11, and she heard the struggle, the one that did not call the police for two hours, then decided to contact a friend to contact me and say she felt something was terribly wrong, that she had gone by the house several times within that two-hour time frame and seen the house was ransacked, I called the police from my house. I send my husband out there.

The girl met us out there with the police. The first set of police cars go out there, four of them. They investigate for five minutes, and they leave.

When I get out there, I called the police a second time. I was at the residence. I begged them to go in the house. I said, "Something is terribly wrong. Lisa`s car is in the garage. There`s -- all the vehicles are in the driveway and the garage. My son`s not answering the phone. He`s a mama`s boy. He would answer the phone to me at any time of the day or night, whenever I would call him."

The girl told the police that she heard the struggle at 11 at night. I asked the police, why would she wait two hours to call me to have somebody call me to say something was wrong and that she had gone out there a couple times? OK? She knew the cabinets were open. She said something was wrong, that she felt something bad had happened to Johnny. Why did she wait two hours?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Do you feel that she`s in the house? Because if the cops couldn`t see that the cabinets were open from the outside...

VAZQUEZ: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: ... that would -- that would imply that she had been in the house.

VAZQUEZ: Yes. Exactly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, on the other side of this, we`re going to ask what police are telling you about what happened.

VAZQUEZ: Well, let me finish this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK.

VAZQUEZ: When the police were out there the second time, the girl gives the police the same statement. I`m begging for them to break in the house, because I know something has gone terribly wrong. No kids are answering the phones; the house phone is not being picked up. The dog`s in the house. The cars are all in the garage.

They said these kids are old enough. There`s no probable cause. I believe there`s probable cause from the girl`s statement saying that she talked to them at 11, and she heard the struggle in the background.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So you feel that the police should have gone in sooner?

VAZQUEZ: Yes. I do. Yes, I do. The first time I made the call, I believe the police should have gone in. At least the second time when I was there.

I know I`m working with law enforcement. I know this case is, you know, going to be solved. She`s murders are going to be caught. But it`s just too bad that it didn`t happen fast enough. OK?

Now I`m haunted with the memory, what if my son was still alive? What if these criminals were in the house at the second time when we were out there or the first time when the police were there, and nothing was done then?

My husband -- the third time, the third 911 call I made is when the police left the second time, I told my husband, now we`re going to wait till the police are gone, and you`re going back through this house...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What is running through you when you feel that possibility that maybe, while you were there, they were still inside?

VAZQUEZ: That my husband was doing their job for them and that my son is dead in this house, that something horribly wrong has happened to my son. From hearing the 911 -- the call that the girl makes to another friend to make to me, I`m feeling in my gut is wrenching. Something is horribly wrong with my son and Lisa. It`s not like them to not answer the phone. He would answer the phone to me day or night. And he would say, "Mom, we`re shooting pool" or "Mom, we`re sleeping. We`re watching TV. I`m OK. I`m alive. I love you."

That`s what my son would say, "I`m fine. Leave me alone. I`ll talk to you tomorrow. I`ll call you back." He would say, you know, about something was terribly wrong and, you know, he would have been able to answer the phone, "Call the police."

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mrs. Vazquez, we want to help solve this horrific crime. We know you`re going through hell. We`re going to do everything we can. We`re not going to let this story go. Thank you, thank you for your honesty. Thank you for coming on.

VAZQUEZ: Yes and the third time when the police was called, I had my husband prop up...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We have to go to break. We`re on a -- we`re on a -- we will stay on top of the story. We`ll have more next with a team of experts. So hang in right there, viewers. We`re going to have more on this and analyze this case, this disturbing case next.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-08-2011

(02-08-2011, 02:30 AM)shitstorm Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 12:30 AM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I taped the mom on Jane Valez Mitchell, which will rerun at 4 10 am.
This is a totally amazing interview by Jane.
The mother says she (mother) knew how to get into the house
"i watched them take the key in and out of a box (to open the house)

Exact quotes:
"Johnny was in barber school."
"Whoever did this was trying to make a statement of some sort."
"Lisa had a very jealous x boyfriend."
"Lisa's boyfriend was in prison for robbery and just got out a couple months
ago." (Yet she refused to speak of her son's prison record.
"My son had no enemies. Lisa would have more connected to this than my son would. Someone knew her and knew how to get into the house."
(Remember, she had earlier said that she had watched them use the key
on many occasions. Why was she at Lisa's house?"
"The girl met us out there." (The telephone girl.)
"The second time I went out there..." (Mom had been at the house twice.)

One real real freaky thing was the photos shown on the page were ALL
of MOM and SON. P

I just suffered through an entire hour of Nancy Grace, albeit in the background while I was doing other things, and this interview was (apparently) on Jane Valez Mitchell!

Well, these are some very interesting revelations. Indeed, why in the hell would this women have ever been to the Straubs' home and witnessed where a key was kept? Maybe that's the key found under Lisa's body - the house key. And, she was there was TWO times? I wonder if it was that night or if the other time was another day - like when she learned where the key was kept.

I agree. Very interesting. Two hours till JVM's repeat. I'm going to get some laundry started, so I can stay awake, I guess.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-08-2011

Part 3

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VAZQUEZ: Get them (EXPLETIVE DELETED) cops out here! I told them earlier and they wouldn`t listen to me!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, ma`am, you need to calm down. We`ll get them out there, but yelling at me...

VAZQUEZ: They`re unconscious, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. You said they`re unconscious?

VAZQUEZ: Yes!

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tragically, they were dead. Who wanted Johnny Clarke and his girlfriend dead? You just heard from Johnny`s devastated mother. There were signs of a struggle. The victims tied up with bags over their head. If this were a robbery, as police have suggested, why were their wallets, phones and computers left behind?

Straight out to David Lohr, crime contributor for AOLNews.com. What are some of the other items that police found in the home, and what could their significance be?

DAVID LOHR, CRIME CONTRIBUTOR, AOLNEWS.COM: Well, they executed a search warrant on the home late last week. They found several items. There was a broken cell phone parts strewn throughout the house. There was some foreign currency.

But most interesting was the items they recovered from the kitchen area. Zip-loc bags, some small bags, white bags, pieces of them. And they found some scales, and like you had mentioned, the key that had 544 stamped on it. So we still don`t know the relevance of that key. Does it go to a hotel room? Does it go to a locker somewhere? Who knows?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Very quickly, I want to ask Mike Brooks what do you make of all that? And we have ten seconds.

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: The scales, the Zip-loc bags, that bothers me a lot, because what does that usually say when you see that, Jane? It usually says some kind of drug activity.

We don`t know that for sure. But I`m just telling you, as a former investigator, you go into a kitchen area, find that, that`s first thing investigators are going to take a look at.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`re going to stay on top of it. Thank you, panel.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 02-08-2011

thanks Methusala! Still reading here.