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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:35 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 04:21 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i could not lay my head down at night and sleep thinking of my child being murdered that way, and what was going through their mind in their last moments. i could not live after that. i fully understand her rage and horror and utter despair. what will life ever be again but this nightmare thought?
she needs help, any kind of help, spiritual and more.

Ditto! I've thought about this because it is my worst nightmare & I've often said when talking to people about cases like this, that I'd have to be put up in a padded room. My child is what I have lived for from the moment I knew I was pregnant & I just can't even begin to imagine how a parent who loses their child carries on after their gone, especially when murdered. Signs_173

Add tortured to that also! some sick Mofo is loose out there that did this too.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - wanttoknow - 02-27-2011

Sometimes you have to keep it together. She has a young son at home.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:39 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: Sometimes you have to keep it together. She has a young son at home.

2 boys at home. that need their parents now. i can't imagine their terror, grief and confusion. they need to feel secure and safe. she has to get a grip FOR THEM. i hope the father is rational.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:04 PM)shitstorm Wrote: All of this has caused me to reflect back on New Orleans, in the post Katrina days. Do you remember when all of those people from NOLA tried to cross the bridge into the next town over and the sheriff's dept of that town met them with a wall of armed sheriffs and would not let them in? I remember thinking, "those poor people", and Anderson Cooper covered it for a week. Well, now I know why that other town didn't want them coming over. I later learned that NOLA was full of projects and a huge percentage of the population were gang bangers. Nobody in their right mind opens their community to that shit - except for the idiots in Houston, which saw an immediate rise in crime as a result.

The dogs are the ones I still feel for. I'll never forget that.

My reaction at the time was the same as yours, but the sheriff's response was based on information we didn't have and that the media might even have kept from us. Nobody wants this element in their communities because it's like a cancer once it gets in, infecting everything it touches and causing death.

I also remember the dogs. As a doggie person myself, I found it really distressing. :(

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:14 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: I'm not in her fan club... I don't know who did it theres too many possibilities in this one

No, there aren't

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - wanttoknow - 02-27-2011

She has a teenager and a younger child. I hope someone is helping them cope. My heart breaks for them.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-27-2011



I've never known that kind of heartache & I hope I never do.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 04:39 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: Sometimes you have to keep it together. She has a young son at home.

2 boys at home. that need their parents now. i can't imagine their terror, grief and confusion. they need to feel secure and safe. she has to get a grip FOR THEM. i hope the father is rational.

Yes, thank God the father is in the home & I hope he's rational & he does seem rational. I can only say this, after my father was killed I tried to keep it together because I felt that as a single mother I had no other option, so I did not grieve & that led to my panic/anxiety disorder which I have now learned to manage naturally (because I despise drugs) I don't think that "keeping it together" is always healthy or the best thing, it prolonges the inevitable & makes it worse in some cases. I say let her vent.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 02:31 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I'm thinking that Maytee may be referring to Aaron in this rant!!! See below, Aaron's about me on his FB page and the reference in Maytee's rant!!

About Aaron: the prince of darkness is a gentelmen

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: You think you met the prince of darkness??? Ha wait til you meet elegua anubis pan kernonus n the underworld.... Palo mayombe will get you without anyone touching you
8 minutes ago

Whoa.
Santeria is real, and really fucking scarey.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_%28religion%29

Palo has its roots in the Congo basin of central Africa, from where large numbers of African slaves were brought to Cuba, Puerto Rico, as well as to the colony of Santo Domingo, the present capital of the Dominican Republic. Accordingly, a great part of Palo Monte's liturgical chants and invocations are in a mixture of the Spanish and Kikongo languages, other influences being introduced through their presence in Black Spanish-speaking Latin America.

During the mid 19th century Palo began to spread among the Venezuela, and Afro-Latino communities in the United States, and many other places outside the Spanish-speaking Caribbean. Eventually, members of non-African Latino groups, as well as African Americans, gained access to these traditions. The religion remains largely Afro-Latino in character. Although it is largely unknown whether the religion started in Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic or Cuba, the most traditional form can be found in these three islands. In Puerto Rico, the city of Guayama became nicknamed "the city of witches", because the religion was widely praticed in this town.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:53 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I say let her vent.


So, it's okay for her remaining children to witness her daily meltdowns? I don't ask that rudely. I can't put myself in her shoes but I can imagine what it would be like seeing my Mom lose it everyday & I'd be pretty fuckin' scared, worried, probably have feelings of insecurity, I'd be petrified. I think it's asking too much of those kids to be understanding at this point, they need their mother.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 02:40 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 02:36 PM)Gonzojoe Wrote: Sounds like Maytee think she knows who is responsible.I'm turning on my police scanner and will be listening for any reports of demons running around the southend.

Yes, and they may be accompanied by a dark gentleman.

Ok, that made me laugh out loud.
I woke up my dog.
LOL

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:49 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 04:14 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: I'm not in her fan club... I don't know who did it theres too many possibilities in this one

No, there aren't

who did it?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 03:38 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 05:37 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Could this be the reason for the Florida trip??
Just a thought...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=41798040&#41798040&from=en-us_msnhp&snid=18424776

That was an interesting news report but when I asked about that Florida trip I was thinking about establishing a connection with a supplier, i.e., a drug cartel bringing in coke or heroin.

True...why not both at the same time?
But with these new posts by Maytee, Im wondering
if Florida had anything to do with this at all anymore...
Im thinking not...


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:09 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: RIP Johnny Love u my babiboi ;,,,,,( wish you could call me or just come walking up the stairs into my room and kiss me n tell me( in my johnny voice) i love you ma dukes u need anything? Can i get u a cookie or water? Are u alright mom? ;,,,,,(
16 hours ago via iPhone
2 people like this.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ma%20dukes

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 05:00 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 04:53 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I say let her vent.


So, it's okay for her remaining children to witness her daily meltdowns? I don't ask that rudely. I can't put myself in her shoes but I can imagine what it would be like seeing my Mom lose it everyday & I'd be pretty fuckin' scared, worried, probably have feelings of insecurity, I'd be petrified. I think it's asking too much of those kids to be understanding at this point, they need their mother.

Well my child had to watch me have panic attacks & that's of course not what I wanted but did learn that it's never ok to hold back natural emotions, rather they be sad or angry. She has a right to be angry. Her sons, especially the 15 year old one, I'm sure are already feeling scared, worried & insecure...all normal emotions. I do definatly think that they could all benefit from some professional counselling. In fact at this point I would, if I were in their inner circle, be encouaraging that 1st & foremost. Having said that, Maytee is, above being a mother to the 2 remaining boys, also human. So anything she feels right now I don't think is going to beneficial in the long run to hold back. The boys I think, need to know that it's ok to be angry & alll of the other emotions too

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Adub - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 05:37 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Could this be the reason for the Florida trip??
Just a thought...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=41798040&#41798040&from=en-us_msnhp&snid=18424776

I'm familiar with this FL story because of another forum I post at. Believe me no one has to drive from Ohio to FL to find a pain doctor.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - wanttoknow - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 05:09 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 05:00 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 04:53 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I say let her vent.


So, it's okay for her remaining children to witness her daily meltdowns? I don't ask that rudely. I can't put myself in her shoes but I can imagine what it would be like seeing my Mom lose it everyday & I'd be pretty fuckin' scared, worried, probably have feelings of insecurity, I'd be petrified. I think it's asking too much of those kids to be understanding at this point, they need their mother.

Well my child had to watch me have panic attacks & that's of course not what I wanted but did learn that it's never ok to hold back natural emotions, rather they be sad or angry. She has a right to be angry. Her sons, especially the 15 year old one, I'm sure are already feeling scared, worried & insecure...all normal emotions. I do definatly think that they could all benefit from some professional counselling. In fact at this point I would, if I were in their inner circle, be encouaraging that 1st & foremost. Having said that, Maytee is above being a mother to the 2 remaining boys, also human. So anything she feels right now I don't think is going to beneficial in the long run to hold back. The boys I think, need to know that it's ok to be angry & alll of the other emotions too

She was ranting like this before the murder. This woman needs help. Has for along time.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:17 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 04:09 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

hah but seriously... the dude had his moms name tattooed down his whole freakin arm & he, by her accounts, seemed to be very caring & concerned with her. Although I don't understand her completely... I do feel very bad for her. She is living my worst nightmare & I'm watching it & I have a hard time judging her reaction because frankly I think if it were me I'd go insane & be uttering all kinds of nonsense.

My thoughts exactly.
Id be more than just a handful, and alot more than so mote it be.
Let me assure you.
You can bury 20 family members and friends, but it will never add up to
or compare with burying your child.
Especially in a hispanic family when your first child is a boy.
Im not saying they dont love their baby girls by any stretch, but
its the whole carrying on the family name thing that is HUGE in their
culture. All the dreams and hopes for the next generation etc are
wrapped up in their boys. Ive seen it first hand how they are with
males in their culture...Cubans and Mexicans are worlds apart in so
many ways, but the family culture is very very much alike.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:17 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: RIP Johnny I cnt face the facts of wats happened here ;,,,( i just want my johnny home
15 hours ago Smiley_emoticons_shocked


I've been waiting for someone to reference this. In Maytees defense... who amongst us doesn't like a little cookie & water every now & then? hah but seriously... the dude had his moms name tattooed down his whole freakin arm & he, by her accounts, seemed to be very caring & concerned with her. Although I don't understand her completely... I do feel very bad for her. She is living my worst nightmare & I'm watching it & I have a hard time judging her reaction because frankly I think if it were me I'd go insane & be uttering all kinds of nonsense.

From all accounts she was a dramatic personality before this happened, but it sure looks like this has tipped her over the edge, and I hope she's receiving counselling for her grief. I felt very sad reading the comment I've bolded because my sense all along is that this is what it comes down to for her. She adored Johnny and can't accept that he's gone or the way he was taken, and by lashing out she can focus on her anger instead of her helplessness until the guilty parties are arrested and charged. I can only imagine what it's like to walk in her shoes; it must be hell on earth for her.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 02-27-2011

(02-27-2011, 04:39 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: Sometimes you have to keep it together. She has a young son at home.

We dont know that shes not...we arent in her living room.
She has held it together in the news interviews, so why not for her boys?
Im sure she is breaking down with them, but Im sure she is giving them
comfort too. She has a BUNCH of pics of her other 2 sons on her fb page.
Alot more than she had of Johnny before this happened.
She has added a bunch of him(JC) and been tagged from fb friends that had pics of Johnny too.