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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-08-2011 Grey:Yes and they also want LE to do their job without interference from them bless them and thank them. i am so sorry for their tragic loss. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - sharit - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 02:57 AM)Jane Wrote:did johnny own a car? if he did not that would explain why she been to the house giving johnny a ride?(02-08-2011, 02:30 AM)shitstorm Wrote:(02-08-2011, 12:30 AM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I taped the mom on Jane Valez Mitchell, which will rerun at 4 10 am. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-08-2011 Just curious about anyones opinions on a possible motive for why Maytee would be involved in her son & Lisas murder? As for the key to the garage & why, if she knew where it was located, she didn't use it..... Maybe it wasn't there? Maybe the perps used the key to gain entry? took it with them? or is that the key found under Lisa? Just some thoughts....... RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-08-2011 I don't personally think she is involved in the murder, however I think she knows more information than she's leading on. IMO she knows way more about the Straub's home than any normal mother of a boyfriend would know. The whole thing with the key. I still can't determine if the garage door was open or closed when Maytee and her husband arrived at the house. If it was closed, they wouldn't have had access to the key. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 10:41 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: Just curious about anyones opinions on a possible motive for why Maytee would be involved in her son & Lisas murder?i don't think that. i just think she's a loon. hyper-emotional and drugged. even inappropriate. but if one of my sons were murdered, they'd have to bury me with him. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LT_RN - 02-08-2011 Catching up from a good nite's sleep. Yes, there was a candle vigil for a few days following the murder, but then Toledo got dumped with snow on Tuesday Night/Wednesday and again this past Saturday, so there is no longer a memorial. As for the benefit for Johnny, it just strikes me that his name is the only one mentioned, two young people lost their lives, why not at least mention Lisa's name (although I know its about money, and apparently Lisa's family is taking care of her). And as for keeping Lisa's ceremony private, I did not think this could happen, unless it was to not take place in a funeral home. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-08-2011 I happen to have a friend who works at a funeral home and he has informed me that all funerals are private unless the family decides to make announcements. The family can include/exclude whoever they choose. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-08-2011 I don't think JC's mother should be laying the blame at Lisa's feet. Look we all pretty much know what was going on there, someone was selling drugs - baggies, scales... Lisa and Johnny were having people coming and going, dropping by playing pool, hanging out, usual young adult stuff when they have a whole house to themselves without the worry of parents popping in, so what happened? I say ask Tiffany not Johnny's mother (even if she knew where the key was, so what? Apparently a lot of people probably knew where that key was, wanna bet? Nobody answered me, but I found it on the transcripts on NG, it was Johnny's father that said: "they planned it. They planned it because they went to that house with tape and bags. I hope and pray the cops find them before I do!" So, the killers brought the plastic bags and duct tape with them! Whoever did this they premeditated what they were going to do. I also heard another version of what Johnny said before he dropped the phone and I believe it was the mother who said it on the Today Show with Meredith Vieira: Johnny's mother said Johnny said something like "Hey bro, what are you doing here, what do you want and then who are you? that tells me he recognized one of the killers, wondered why he was there and who was the "stranger" he brought with him and what did they want? I could be wrong but when I heard the mother say that,, and they always say that "the devil is in the details" ...One of the killers was known to both of them and Tiffany knows who that is, that's what I believe...and they went there to murder this couple and look for some stash of drugs that they believed was there...JMO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - grey sweat pants - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 10:53 AM)LT_RN Wrote: Catching up from a good nite's sleep. Yes, there was a candle vigil for a few days following the murder, but then Toledo got dumped with snow on Tuesday Night/Wednesday and again this past Saturday, so there is no longer a memorial. As for the benefit for Johnny, it just strikes me that his name is the only one mentioned, two young people lost their lives, why not at least mention Lisa's name (although I know its about money, and apparently Lisa's family is taking care of her). And as for keeping Lisa's ceremony private, I did not think this could happen, unless it was to not take place in a funeral home. It is at a funeral home. They are trying to keep the press and quite frankly JC's family at an arms length. They want this day to be about Lisa and those that knew/loved her and not turn it into a media circus. the graveside burial is private and they are requesting family only. Her family really does not want anything to do with his family right now. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-08-2011 This leaves me wondering how they KNOW they brought the bags and tape? I meant hose are pretty standard household items. If you went to my house right now, we have both. Without interviewing the Straubs, how would they know for sure the killers brought those items? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - fabulous - 02-08-2011 hi! I'm new here...been reading the pages over the last couple of days... I live in Maumee Ohio (suburb of Toledo), right down the road from where the kids were murdered... this case has me so puzzled... glad to see everyone elses's thoughts/ideas/opinions! I just have a couple of thoughts... this is a very nice neighborhood, not brand new houses, but a nice established neighborhood, and in neighborhoods like that in the good ol' midwest..neighbors talk, and hear and SEE! I think one crucial piece here is what kind of information the neighbors have/are/will provide to LE.(of course we're not privy to that info!) the other thing....not to speak ill about the Clarke family...but having a "benefit" at JAX bar? really? it's a college bar, right next to UT (univ. of TOledo!) and if you're from the area..you'll understand that it's just bizarre. Jax is a college hangout. wierd to me. IMO! and finally... does anyone know what type of work Mr. Straub does? Lisa's father.... or what the security papers were that were taken from her house? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - fabulous - 02-08-2011 oh and one more thought....does anyone out there reading this know, or have any idea, as to what the relationship was between the Clarke's and the Straub's ?? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - grey sweat pants - 02-08-2011 I do know what both Lisa's parents do for a living and I am not comfortable sharing that here. I will say they are good hard working people. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-08-2011 i'm going to reiterate what i said many pages ago at the start. the bags and tape were weapons of opportunity. no murderers carry bags around. and 'pros' would use a fast method, a gun. these murders were personal. secondly...i think Tiffany's phone calls were big fat red herrings. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - fabulous - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 11:12 AM)grey sweat pants Wrote: I do know what both Lisa's parents do for a living and I am not comfortable sharing that here. I will say they are good hard working people. ok, I was just wondering, I would completely assume that they are upper-middle class, high functioning, contributing members of society...I was just wondering what kind of work they were into. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-08-2011 Hello Everyone I've been reading for a few days and stumbled upon and interesting comment on this story in aol and someone made an interesting comment about the key ....."The numbered key ID's the assasin so he gets paid. Kind of like the ace of spades in the movies." I wonder what others think of this RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-08-2011 whoever is stealing my info and posting it at another forum, knock it off. i know your IP. shit, i probably know your underwear size. and they will moderate you to death. slap your hands and smack your knuckles and treat you like a child. they are interested in ONE thing, their liability. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-08-2011 LOL, Lady Cop! But that's not nice that's plagiarism! I don't believe it was a "hit" either Lady Cop, I believe it was personal, and asphyxiation is a horrible way to die (and not the chosen method of professionial hits) you have to be one sicko to asphyxiate someone, a real sadist. I just pray they were knocked out before the bags were placed over their heads, that's just horrible! Maybe the scene was even made to look like it was about drugs(ie baggies and scales laying around) I say somebody needs to crack Tiffany sooner rather than later, and if this happened at 11pm like she said, she had at least 2 hrs to conjure up the who are you and what do you want story, before she contacted the other friend who contacted JC's mother! I don't think the key was any message, I think it got dropped there during the chaos that must have ensued while trying to subdue JC and LS, but I do believe that there were 2 people. JC's father did think that the tape and plastic bags were brought there, I don't know why, that's just what he said on NG and I don't know what made him think that either? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-08-2011 Do any of you that are close with the families know if Tiffany has been interviewed or questioned? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-08-2011 (02-08-2011, 05:02 AM)shitstorm Wrote: I found this on Lisa's sisters' MySpace page: Reading her webpage is heartbreaking. The sister sounds like a normal, healthy-minded, intelligent young woman, from which I would guess that her younger sister Lisa was too. Why in the world would kids like this want to associate with trashy "gangsta" characters like these others? Yes, I think I know but it is still senseless and makes this even more tragic. |