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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 03:32 PM)blueyes Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 03:24 PM)blueyes Wrote: I'm not knocking anyone but they are career criminals n looks by their fb that they were wanted and running way before the unfortunate murders! And we are talkin bout wanna be Santa's from Toledo they don't know what rapping for their sets even means! They are both WHITE as can be and callin each other nigga....... LOL they are comical, someone needs to take this hood rats and drop them in Cabrini Green in Chicago and see how hard they are then! Everyone on here has great theory's just can't wait to find out what the truth really is!

Damn phone....... not Santa GANGSTA

hah I saw that & I was thinking... Ummmm the Santa I know leaves things at peoples houses, not takes things from peoples houses. That was a hilarious mistake. Damn them wannabe Santas running around Toledo!! hah


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 02:59 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: ................I'm very suprised to see some mockers complain that this information was shared!!

If it turns out to be nothing, well, hmm... this thread is over 600 pages long, so let's not knock people for trying!!! Smiley_emoticons_smile

Inspector Gary & WildFlower, Count me "IN APPRECIATION" of your efforts and your sharing of all of this info. I applaude your efforts in ths matter and recognize and support your right to speculate your theories in this forum.

zero


p.s. I like the more relaxed look of WildFlowers new AV. The old one looked "preachie" to me...hah
this one is "eye candy"


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 03:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 02:42 PM)Methusala Wrote: Just a few thoughts I had over morning coffee.

Wow Methusala, I want some of that coffee! Well crafted. I just don't see the perpetrators relying on finding the remote in Lisa's unlocked car as a dependable assurance of entry to commit the crime. Further I am assuming that Lisa's car was being used by Johnny to visit friends and watch the game and wasn't available to the perps. I am figuring he didn't have his own car because rumor has him hiding it in a disputed effort to sell it and wasn't being paid for it in timely manner.

zero

Good point. So how did they get into the garage to get the key into the house?




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 03:50 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 02:59 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: ................I'm very suprised to see some mockers complain that this information was shared!!

If it turns out to be nothing, well, hmm... this thread is over 600 pages long, so let's not knock people for trying!!! Smiley_emoticons_smile

Inspector Gary & WildFlower, Count me "IN APPRECIATION" of your efforts and your sharing of all of this info. I applaude your efforts in ths matter and recognize and support your right to speculate your theories in this forum.

zero


p.s. I like the more relaxed look of WildFlowers new AV. The old one looked "preachie" to me...hah
this one is "eye candy"

lmao! I thought maybe Id get more respect now with this one.
HAHAHA!
Smiley_emoticons_smile


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 03-01-2011

Has anyone been able to confirm posts made about an ALLEGED herion drug bust involving JC, Sr?


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 03-01-2011

In Google, I find the following:
PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Feb 26, 2011 ... Lucas County Corrections Center. Offenders Booked Between: 02/23/2011 And 02/26/2011 .... Arresting Agency: Ohio State Highway Patrol Toledo. Arrest Dttm: ..... C------, B---y J--. 02/23/2011 17:59. Book Dttm:

But when I open the PDF, there is no sign of him. Is my computer acting up?
Can someone check and see if he is there when they open up the pdf?

Also when I attempt to get the Toledo Blade articles mentioned above, I
get "Nothing Assigned to this page." Does anyone else get that?

Also, when I saw it last week, he was arrested by The Federal Bureau
of Investigation, as were two others now missing on that page. Can
someone help me out? Any idea where I can find that info again?


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 03-01-2011

Of course even if there was no original intention to encounter JC & LS and torture and murder them, not only the perpetrators but anyone in on the planning of what might have been intended as a simple entry and robbery faces the possibility of conviction for first degree murder, because proof of premeditation is not required for first degree where the killing is incident to the commission of a felony.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ZEROSPHERES - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 04:11 PM)Methusala Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 03:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 02:42 PM)Methusala Wrote: Just a few thoughts I had over morning coffee.
I just don't see the perpetrators relying on finding the remote in Lisa's unlocked car as a dependable assurance of entry to commit the crime.

Good point. So how did they get into the garage to get the key into the house?

My theroy has the perps following JC and LS into the garage upn their return and confronting them. Or taking advantage of an open garage door, left open because JC was just dropping LS off to get changed and was gonna run right back out. An expediancy of the moment thing. Or just that the perps knocked and charged in after JC or LS opened the door.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - fabulous - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 04:15 PM)curious Wrote: Has anyone been able to confirm posts made about an ALLEGED herion drug bust involving JC, Sr?

I don't think that anyone on this forum has CONFIRMED that he/they were involved in a heroin drug bust. It has been the rumor locally since this case broke that JC sr was involved in a heroin bust/truckoad/ snitch/tongue cutting/ confidental informant gone bad type of scenario. I've heard that rumor twisted up so many times...but locally it's been going around from the get-go.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lawheeze - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 04:21 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: In Google, I find the following:
PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Feb 26, 2011 ... Lucas County Corrections Center. Offenders Booked Between: 02/23/2011 And 02/26/2011 .... Arresting Agency: Ohio State Highway Patrol Toledo. Arrest Dttm: ..... C------, B---y J--. 02/23/2011 17:59. Book Dttm:
The actual PDF file is constantly changing as new folks are arrested and older arrests are deleted from the list. So what you see in Google was captured a couple of days ago, whereas what you see when you click the link is what's current now.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 12:41 PM)Nina Wrote: Check out the messages and especially the lyrics to the songs posted on BC's facebook on the days before and just after the murders. "Pussy niggas betta act right, lay low, we know where ya family live
Trust me you don't want me up in ya crib with a ski mask on duck tapin ya kids"
. I will be very surprised if BC & MM are not ultimately charged with these murders. And AG & TW were in it all the way. LE knows who did this, they have at least 2 of them in custody and they are tying up loose ends......it won't be long until more arrests and an announcement.

Arrrghh! My computer connection has slowed to a crawl and FB is stalled on me.

What is the date of that comment? So far I can't find it. That's a pretty damn incriminating statement.

I don't know how in the hell you guys got on to Billy C., or some of these other people!!! My God, you guys must have read the FB postings of every FB friend of the main characters!!!


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Adub - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 04:29 PM)fabulous Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 04:15 PM)curious Wrote: Has anyone been able to confirm posts made about an ALLEGED herion drug bust involving JC, Sr?

I don't think that anyone on this forum has CONFIRMED that he/they were involved in a heroin drug bust. It has been the rumor locally since this case broke that JC sr was involved in a heroin bust/truckoad/ snitch/tongue cutting/ confidental informant gone bad type of scenario. I've heard that rumor twisted up so many times...but locally it's been going around from the get-go.

The best that I can do. In 2008, JCsr had charges filed for possession. There was a bench warrant issued for fta. Then in 2010 JCsr got a ticket driving w/o a license. That case was consolidated with a bunch of earlier traffic citations and the drug charge from 2008. They were all dismissed. The court record states, off docket wrong defendant. And that was June 2010. So it looks like JCsr rap sheet is not as long as it appears. Atleast 6 of the entries were dismissed because they had the wrong man.




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 03-01-2011


Has anyone been able to confirm posts made about an ALLEGED herion drug bust involving JC, Sr?
[/quote]

I don't think that anyone on this forum has CONFIRMED that he/they were involved in a heroin drug bust. It has been the rumor locally since this case broke The best that I can do. In 2008, JCsr was arrested for possession. There was a bench warrant issued for fta. Then in 2010 JCsr got a ticket driving w/o a license. That case was consolidated with a bunch of earlier traffic citations and the drug charge from 2008. They were all dismissed. The court record states, off docket wrong defendant. And that was June 2010. So it looks like JCsr rap sheet is not as long as it appears. Atleast 6 of the entries were dismissed because they had the wrong man.

[/quote]

Interesting, definitely puts a wrench in one my theories...thanks for the info!



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 05:11 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 12:41 PM)Nina Wrote: Check out the messages and especially the lyrics to the songs posted on BC's facebook on the days before and just after the murders. "Pussy niggas betta act right, lay low, we know where ya family live
Trust me you don't want me up in ya crib with a ski mask on duck tapin ya kids"
. I will be very surprised if BC & MM are not ultimately charged with these murders. And AG & TW were in it all the way. LE knows who did this, they have at least 2 of them in custody and they are tying up loose ends......it won't be long until more arrests and an announcement.

Arrrghh! My computer connection has slowed to a crawl and FB is stalled on me.

What is the date of that comment? So far I can't find it. That's a pretty damn incriminating statement.

I don't know how in the hell you guys got on to Billy C., or some of these other people!!! My God, you guys must have read the FB postings of every FB friend of the main characters!!!
Billy C lists mpy as his brother and mpy lists billy as his brother on FB. I just started reading. They arent *real* brothers...just gang brothers.
and yes....Ive been reading fb walls for days and days...anyone that had a public wall was read.
Like I said in an earlier post...Im nosey and have insomnia. Beautiful combination. LOLOL


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Sincere - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 05:14 PM)Adub Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 04:29 PM)fabulous Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 04:15 PM)curious Wrote: Has anyone been able to confirm posts made about an ALLEGED herion drug bust involving JC, Sr?

I don't think that anyone on this forum has CONFIRMED that he/they were involved in a heroin drug bust. It has been the rumor locally since this case broke that JC sr was involved in a heroin bust/truckoad/ snitch/tongue cutting/ confidental informant gone bad type of scenario. I've heard that rumor twisted up so many times...but locally it's been going around from the get-go.

The best that I can do. In 2008, JCsr had charges filed for possession. There was a bench warrant issued for fta. Then in 2010 JCsr got a ticket driving w/o a license. That case was consolidated with a bunch of earlier traffic citations and the drug charge from 2008. They were all dismissed. The court record states, off docket wrong defendant. And that was June 2010. So it looks like JCsr rap sheet is not as long as it appears. Atleast 6 of the entries were dismissed because they had the wrong man.

I thought I saw where his charges were pending . I didnt see where they were dropped . Perhaps I am reading in the wrong area. Off to look again .......


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 03-01-2011

[[/quote]
Billy C lists mpy as his brother and mpy lists billy as his brother on FB. I just started reading. They arent *real* brothers...just gang brothers.
and yes....Ive been reading fb walls for days and days...anyone that had a public wall was read.
Like I said in an earlier post...Im nosey and have insomnia. Beautiful combination. LOLOL
[/quote]

I see AG & MPY listing each other as "brother" buy not Billy C. I can't find MPY on BC's page.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 05:34 PM)kfran Wrote: [
Billy C lists mpy as his brother and mpy lists billy as his brother on FB. I just started reading. They arent *real* brothers...just gang brothers.
and yes....Ive been reading fb walls for days and days...anyone that had a public wall was read.
Like I said in an earlier post...Im nosey and have insomnia. Beautiful combination. LOLOL
[/quote]

I see AG & MPY listing each other as "brother" buy not Billy C. I can't find MPY on BC's page.
[/quote]

Shit...sorry...so many players here. I meant XXXX XXXXXX. So sorry for that snafu. Ive got alot going on at my house today...
ANyway...those two do NOT have each other listed as brothers...they are actually cousins.



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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Nina - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 05:11 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 12:41 PM)Nina Wrote: Check out the messages and especially the lyrics to the songs posted on BC's facebook on the days before and just after the murders. "Pussy niggas betta act right, lay low, we know where ya family live
Trust me you don't want me up in ya crib with a ski mask on duck tapin ya kids"
. I will be very surprised if BC & MM are not ultimately charged with these murders. And AG & TW were in it all the way. LE knows who did this, they have at least 2 of them in custody and they are tying up loose ends......it won't be long until more arrests and an announcement.

Arrrghh! My computer connection has slowed to a crawl and FB is stalled on me.

What is the date of that comment? So far I can't find it. That's a pretty damn incriminating statement.

I don't know how in the hell you guys got on to Billy C., or some of these other people!!! My God, you guys must have read the FB postings of every FB friend of the main characters!!!

Sorry, I just realized the way I worded that was mis-leading. That line was NOT an actual post....it is the lyrics to a song he posted around 128 and AG and MM commented on it. The song just after the murders talks about "being back in town" etc. I am probably really reading into this but that would be A LOT of coincidences. Like I said, I could very well be wrong but I would be surprised if these guys are not invovled. Looks like Maytee thinks at least AG is with her "Prince of Darkness" comment.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ToledoNative - 03-01-2011

(03-01-2011, 03:24 PM)blueyes Wrote: And we are talkin bout wanna be Santa's from Toledo they don't know what rapping for their sets even means! They are both WHITE as can be and callin each other nigga....... LOL they are comical, someone needs to take this hood rats and drop them in Cabrini Green in Chicago and see how hard they are then!


Hahaha! They would be peeing in their pants! Thanks for the laugh!


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Followingalong - 03-01-2011

BC's mother (RJ) confirmed BC's arrest on FB.

2/18: Be careful cops love you like they do billy haha they arrested him in juntion city kanasa the othfr day

2/22: You want to threaten me now you dont think stupid thats gonna piss billy off even more you really are a stupid guy

https://www.facebook.com/