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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JustSayin... - 03-08-2011 Personally I think the angel with a rosary was left by someone as a tribute. I don't really see punks purchasing a lovely statue and rosary. Maybe if they aren't afraid of his mother they will clear it up. The grave marker being stolen could be a separate issue. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:30 AM)EastCoastKat Wrote:(03-07-2011, 04:11 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(03-07-2011, 03:36 PM)onefortheroad Wrote: [quote='kitty1' pid='142172' dateline='1299526077'] I've had the same thoughts as Kitty & 1 4 the road. Mostley because I continue to see people comment on how beautiful & handsome they were & I've thought.... what if they weren't beautiful & handsome? What if the were born homely, what if they were obese, or had some type of physical or mental disability? Would people care AS much? I think some people would still like to discuss it but I do think their beauty captured peoples attention as well. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:34 AM)JustSayin... Wrote: Personally I think the angel with a rosary was left by someone as a tribute. I don't really see punks purchasing a lovely statue and rosary. Maybe if they aren't afraid of his mother they will clear it up. The grave marker being stolen could be a separate issue. See my post directly above yours. Maytee purchased & placed the statue at the gravesight. She states she does not know who left the beads. If it were just the bead incident, I may think someone may have left them there innocently, not thinking how the act may look bad. However, the stolen marker along with the beads makes it look not so innocent to me. To me, it does sound like someone wanted a trophy or someone wanted to mess with the family. IMO RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:33 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(03-08-2011, 10:27 AM)JsMom Wrote: Am I hearing this right or not, U guys! I hear her say that the angel with the beads rapped around the neck was place on top of where the marker of Johnnys was? OMG! yah somebody sick and evil! I can not fuckin (excuse my language) believe someone/anyone is STILL torturing this family! Im just a mess about it! These SICK mother fuckers need to leave this poor FAMILY ALONE! My god they have took enough from these families! I just can not BELIEVE IT! HOW FUCKING SICK!!!! I just dont get why the hell someone would do that! I cant even express in words what I feel about it! WHAT A DISGRACE to mankind!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:34 AM)JustSayin... Wrote: Personally I think the angel with a rosary was left by someone as a tribute. I don't really see punks purchasing a lovely statue and rosary. Maybe if they aren't afraid of his mother they will clear it up. The grave marker being stolen could be a separate issue. was it a rosary? or just some beads? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 03-08-2011 i would also like to think the rosary beads were meant in a loving way. i hope so. and i agree that the physical beauty of the deceased young couple, as well as the bizarre manner of death, factors into the overwhelming interest in this case. it has all the elements of a compelling and tragic Romeo and Juliet story. i need to be gone a few hours, see you later! i hope for news. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 03-08-2011 (03-07-2011, 04:24 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Sheriff updates double death investigation neither do they believe this was a "professional hit."! Evidence is being examined,,,,,and poly results too,,,,,,, Let's hope the media starts pushing for some answers too! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:42 AM)JsMom Wrote:(03-08-2011, 10:34 AM)JustSayin... Wrote: Personally I think the angel with a rosary was left by someone as a tribute. I don't really see punks purchasing a lovely statue and rosary. Maybe if they aren't afraid of his mother they will clear it up. The grave marker being stolen could be a separate issue. She didn't say RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:40 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:(03-08-2011, 10:34 AM)JustSayin... Wrote: Personally I think the angel with a rosary was left by someone as a tribute. I don't really see punks purchasing a lovely statue and rosary. Maybe if they aren't afraid of his mother they will clear it up. The grave marker being stolen could be a separate issue. I totally agree! I was thinking the exact same thing!!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 03-08-2011 (03-07-2011, 05:30 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: I bet the sheriff got some pressure from many fronts to say it LOL, Well I sent about 10 emails under different alias'!! And I was hoping that others did the same from the email/form link that I posted on here! That is exactly what I questioned, it being "professional", the information being buried in the Sheriff's monthly report and re-victimizing Johnny and Lisa by laying the murders at their own feet! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 03-08-2011 Maytee mentioned the marker being stolen as some kind of *trophy* to whomever took it. That's disgusting, but sadly enough could have some truth to it. As for the angel statue, Maytee states in the video she put the statue there herself, minus the beads/rope around it's neck. I would love to think it was a rosary placed out of love, and wrapped around a couple times so it wouldn't fall off, BUT she said ROPE with beads...and that made think of a popular bracelet kids wear. Either way, the grave marker is gone and that's just plain disrespectful!! RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LytoMe - 03-08-2011 (03-07-2011, 07:26 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy.... In reading this post, with all the "paybacks" in gangs and the treats that Maytee has been making against people...does this women not fear for her own safety accusing innocent people? I have given her the benefit of the doubt, because yes she lost her son, and yes she was there when they were found. BUT at the same time, we do not hear from Johnny's father....complaining and accusing people. Nor do we hear from the Straub's. So giving her the benefit of the doubt has complete gone out the window. There is such thing as dealing with grief as a mature adult, and not looking for attention for yourself. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 03-08-2011 My initial reaction to the grave marker/beads/angel situation is that someone is overreacting. I mean how do they know for sure that the grave marker was stolen? We've had bad weather, maybe it was "blown away". Maybe the cemetery removed it for some reason (granted if that were the case they should have notified the family) I just don't get why it's immediately being said it was stolen. Also, the beads?? I do not see this as doing any harm at all! Someone was paying their respects. Maytee needs to get a grip. A serious grip. You can't take every single thing and turn it into an action against you!! What if someone placed a certain color flowers on the grave?? IS she going to turn that into some huge ordeal??? It's just not making sense to me. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:56 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: My initial reaction to the grave marker/beads/angel situation is that someone is overreacting. I mean how do they know for sure that the grave marker was stolen? We've had bad weather, maybe it was "blown away". Maybe the cemetery removed it for some reason (granted if that were the case they should have notified the family) I just don't get why it's immediately being said it was stolen. Also, the beads?? I do not see this as doing any harm at all! Someone was paying their respects. Maytee needs to get a grip. A serious grip. You can't take every single thing and turn it into an action against you!! What if someone placed a certain color flowers on the grave?? IS she going to turn that into some huge ordeal??? It's just not making sense to me. Raisingaprince, I posted a link to the video both here & on the JC & LS facts thread. In the video they show a similiar marker. It wouldn not be possible for this marker to blow away. It looked like a thin slab of rock similiar to a permanent headstone. The GM of the cemetary was also interviewed. They did not remove the marker & no other markers were stolen or messed with. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 12:03 AM)Jane Wrote:(03-07-2011, 08:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: purely speculation on my part..if in fact the killers brought the tape, but not the bags, that says to me they only planned on binding the victims while they tore up the house looking for the alleged "safe". and when things got out of control, they used the bags they found in the house to kill them. i never, and you can look back to the beginning, thought that they came with the intent to murder.good point! Would love to know if the bags were from the home, hmmm Same here, never thought that it was "professional" or that they went there with the intention to murder, just to rob drugs, money and to look for the parents money whether it was in a safe or elsewhere, same with the drugs, they could have been hidden in the vents... Will be interesting when they poly Tiffany in July, I wonder how the minor did?? Wonder what he has said? RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - aileen - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 10:56 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: My initial reaction to the grave marker/beads/angel situation is that someone is overreacting. I mean how do they know for sure that the grave marker was stolen? We've had bad weather, maybe it was "blown away". Maybe the cemetery removed it for some reason (granted if that were the case they should have notified the family) I just don't get why it's immediately being said it was stolen. Also, the beads?? I do not see this as doing any harm at all! Someone was paying their respects. Maytee needs to get a grip. A serious grip. You can't take every single thing and turn it into an action against you!! What if someone placed a certain color flowers on the grave?? IS she going to turn that into some huge ordeal??? It's just not making sense to me. If you watched the video you would have seen that the marker is marble, so I'm pretty sure the wind didn't blow it away. And also, in the video is the cemeteries manager speaking about the situation...I would assume he would have mentioned if the marker had been removed by staff. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 12:15 AM)Jane Wrote:(03-08-2011, 12:12 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: and the reporter confirmed the reward amount of $16,000thanks! I was curious what it really was. I'd read $28,000 shortly after the TGIF reward fundraiser. Wow, for some reason I think it's odd, the reward is so low. Me too, I swear I read somewhere...$28k! (03-08-2011, 12:25 AM)WolfHouse Wrote: Wondering.... I have to agree here what kind of beads? Rosary? If not Rosary beads were they gang colors? Could mean a lot of things....hmmm RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 03-08-2011 Well obviously I didn't watch the videos. Ok so it wasn't blown away, some POS probably did remove it. Still seems like an overreaction to me. It's not like the gravesight was trashed, like a lot have been here in Toledo recently. Since when is leaving a "gift" a crime? I can only assume there are MANY visitors to his grave site, someone left a gift. Yes, investigate the grave marker but taking the beads in for fingerprinting? Come on. RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 11:05 AM)aileen Wrote:(03-08-2011, 10:56 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: My initial reaction to the grave marker/beads/angel situation is that someone is overreacting. I mean how do they know for sure that the grave marker was stolen? We've had bad weather, maybe it was "blown away". Maybe the cemetery removed it for some reason (granted if that were the case they should have notified the family) I just don't get why it's immediately being said it was stolen. Also, the beads?? I do not see this as doing any harm at all! Someone was paying their respects. Maytee needs to get a grip. A serious grip. You can't take every single thing and turn it into an action against you!! What if someone placed a certain color flowers on the grave?? IS she going to turn that into some huge ordeal??? It's just not making sense to me. I agree with you & posted something similiar. I also agree with your last post about the rope with beads. If it were just a rosary, why not describe it as a rosary? Why say "rope with beads" My mothers side of the family is Catholic & no one refers to their rosaries as "rope with beads" lol I'm thinking it may have been something similiar to Mardi Gras beads or those hemp rope bracelets with beads. I think that may have been what you were describing also RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 03-08-2011 (03-08-2011, 11:12 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Well obviously I didn't watch the videos. Ok so it wasn't blown away, some POS probably did remove it. Still seems like an overreaction to me. It's not like the gravesight was trashed, like a lot have been here in Toledo recently. Since when is leaving a "gift" a crime? I can only assume there are MANY visitors to his grave site, someone left a gift. Yes, investigate the grave marker but taking the beads in for fingerprinting? Come on. I think LE is thinking that whomever stole the gravemarker also placed the rope of beads around the neck of the statue. I don't blame them nor do I feel like it's an over reaction. Her son was murdered & someone stole his grave marker & left a gift in replacement (rope of beads) possibly the same person. |