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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Nina - 03-11-2011

A guy I know is friends with AG on FB and he showed me his page:

ON January 17:

AG: im takin bout DEVILS ...what is the world comin to.. niggaz n bitches get sweated n sell they soulz...what happened to al the thorough street niggaz n bitches U n U n U aint my round...DEVILS get up off me stupidddd

TW: aint no real niggas or bytchs left out here anymore u kno dat ...very few r left....

BC: that sum real live shit u never who or wen even tha closest turn bitch!aint 2 many real niggas left take it bacc 2 tha day n start bodyin these bitches is tha only way

TW to a girl talking to her man: i swear hoe i will slice ur throat bytch...bytch throw yoself away u fukin trashy ass bytch......cum get up wyt me..ill meet up wyt u.. (She forgot to add the "God Bless" here.......)

Random Status Updates from AG in January:
AG: it im chillin haha apprently somebodies gonna kill me haha do me the favor foreal

AG: fuck it ur nobody till somebody kills u

I know i could be way off base here but I keep coming back to the fact that both TW and AG have said that is probably why JC was targeted .....he was a snitch. So WHY would they be hanging out with him and LS if they think they are snitches? References over and over and over about snitches up until the day of the murders and then Nothing more about it for weeks. They know something................


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Miss Conspiracy - 03-11-2011

and all this time the only snitch I ever really knew about was the golden snitch from Harry Potter

[Image: snitch20kit.jpg]

I wonder if all these real azz nigga's hate Harry Potter?


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - trixie - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 09:03 PM)pspence Wrote: Where is my buddy ShitStorm??????



Shitstorm was going crazy from this thread and had to leave, lol..


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pspence - 03-11-2011

I can't believe after all this ...we're back to square one....not a clue who did it or why


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - trixie - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 09:25 PM)Nina Wrote: TW to a girl talking to her man: i swear hoe i will slice ur throat bytch...bytch throw yoself away u fukin trashy ass bytch......cum get up wyt me..ill meet up wyt u.. (She forgot to add the "God Bless" here.......)

hahhahhah




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - WolfHouse - 03-11-2011

To JS Mom. Why don't you just lay off Maytee. No one else is
humiliating her but you. Let's try to be nice.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 09:25 PM)Nina Wrote: A guy I know is friends with AG on FB and he showed me his page:

ON January 17:

AG: im takin bout DEVILS ...what is the world comin to.. niggaz n bitches get sweated n sell they soulz...what happened to al the thorough street niggaz n bitches U n U n U aint my round...DEVILS get up off me stupidddd

TW: aint no real niggas or bytchs left out here anymore u kno dat ...very few r left....

BC: that sum real live shit u never who or wen even tha closest turn bitch!aint 2 many real niggas left take it bacc 2 tha day n start bodyin these bitches is tha only way

TW to a girl talking to her man: i swear hoe i will slice ur throat bytch...bytch throw yoself away u fukin trashy ass bytch......cum get up wyt me..ill meet up wyt u.. (She forgot to add the "God Bless" here.......)

Random Status Updates from AG in January:
AG: it im chillin haha apprently somebodies gonna kill me haha do me the favor foreal

AG: fuck it ur nobody till somebody kills u

I know i could be way off base here but I keep coming back to the fact that both TW and AG have said that is probably why JC was targeted .....he was a snitch. So WHY would they be hanging out with him and LS if they think they are snitches? References over and over and over about snitches up until the day of the murders and then Nothing more about it for weeks. They know something................

Very interesting post, Nina - thanks Smiley_emoticons_smile

I don't recall any mention of AG hanging out with JC and Lisa though? Wasn't it only Tiff and ZB who were at the Straubs' house, unless AG was there too and his name was deliberately left out by TW....




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - JsMom - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 09:55 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: To JS Mom. Why don't you just lay off Maytee. No one else is
humiliating her but you. Let's try to be nice.

Im trying....Ill try harder....Sorry but I dont take well to threats Smiley_emoticons_wink just saying....but since you did ask politely I will keep my true comments to myself...others have said worse tho.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - sharit - 03-11-2011

Ignore


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Nina - 03-11-2011


Very interesting post, Nina - thanks Smiley_emoticons_smile

I don't recall any mention of AG hanging out with JC and Lisa though? Wasn't it only Tiff and ZB who were at the Straubs' house, unless AG was there too and his name was deliberately left out by TW....


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He didn't say he hung out with JC/LS at Lisa's but he did say he was in jail with JC and they were "friends"......




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - WolfHouse - 03-11-2011

I am beginning to think Johnny and Lisa were just messing around
with some miscellaneous stuff, nothing radical if anything, letting everyone
else do the big stuff - phasing out of anything they might have
done or been asked to do --- Generally getting their life together in the 'burbs -

And someone got big time pissed because they did not want him to
stay straight and be out of their hold. Someone from some former life, I think.

Johnny was a tender hearted guy who was straighted up - thus
the reason for being at the Straubs and choosing to be with a girl
like Lisa. I bet this is far far far more tragic than we ever thought.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - NightOwl - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 04:52 PM)notsure Wrote: I'm not going to post this publicly b/c I don't want to give maytee any more attention. Doesn't it seem odd that she wants to have John sr. blow our jaw and teeth out (with a shotgun I would assume) for talking about johnny in an objective way, But she suspects AG as the person who executed her son and all she does is call him names on facebook. She thinks AG killed her son, but John Sr. isn't on his way over to blow his head off? instead she will let the justice system take care of him. really? But lets threaten the mockers with heads blown off b/c she knows we won't call her bluff maybe?? IDK just seems silly. bC of that I just can't believe she really suspects AG all that strongly. I know if I were her and I really thought he did it, I probably would have a hard time not seeking my own justice. and it wouldn't be in the form of name calling in facebook.

I agree with you notsure - what if John Sr. doesn't think it's AG - we never hear from John Sr. and I will never forget his sentence on t.v.
they better find the killer/s (meaning LE) before I do and I bloody believe him.




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 03-11-2011

AG said something in the conversation between he & Maytee that struck a chord w/me. Something about the perps that killed Johnny & Lisa being "cowards" because they did not "physically kill" Johnny & Lisa, but instead used bags to let them suffocate. I guess I hadn't looked at it that way until AG put it in his own terms....


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 10:29 PM)kfran Wrote: AG said something in the conversation between he & Maytee that struck a chord w/me. Something about the perps that killed Johnny & Lisa being "cowards" because they did not "physically kill" Johnny & Lisa, but instead used bags to let them suffocate. I guess I hadn't looked at it that way until AG put it in his own terms....

Some of those comments struck a similar chord with me, when he referred to the perps as spineless cowards who deserve the death penalty, and said what they'd done was truly evil. I've always had him pegged as one of the perps, but I'm starting to reconsider.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - kfran - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 10:48 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 10:29 PM)kfran Wrote: AG said something in the conversation between he & Maytee that struck a chord w/me. Something about the perps that killed Johnny & Lisa being "cowards" because they did not "physically kill" Johnny & Lisa, but instead used bags to let them suffocate. I guess I hadn't looked at it that way until AG put it in his own terms....

Some of those comments struck a similar chord with me, when he referred to the perps as spineless cowards who deserve the death penalty, and said what they'd done was truly evil. I've always had him pegged as one of the perps, but I'm starting to reconsider.

It's definitely putting a new spin on things for me. Do the perps not consider themselves murderers because they didn't "physically kill" JC & LS? I can't even begin to consume what is going on inside these perps minds.

I keep thinking about how Johnny looked in the casket, his face had no marks of struggle. For him to endure a struggle w/the perps, I'd find it so odd that they wouldn't end up in a fight. I do not know if Lisa had marks on her face or body, but it still seems so odd, let's just assume that their bodies were flawless, not a bruise or cut. IMO, that makes these perps contain a certain amount of something that I can't put my finger on. It all makes my head spin.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 03-11-2011

eeeeeek! AG & Maytee had a 'discussion' last night!!! I'm catching upSmiley_emoticons_skeptisch


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 11:17 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: Ahhh ok thanks Jane!! That's why I missed it. I unliked that page weeks ago & only go there if I'm alerted to something happening on there.... like last night. WOW. I'm sure glad my child had a 2 hour delay at school because of the snow we got last night, because I stayed up WAY to late!!

you're welcome. Wow, things really blew up at "justice Will", after I went to bed, whoa!




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 11:40 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Does anyone know if she works? I mean she's online all day and all night. Granted I'm online all day, I have an office job and can do that. Just makes me wonder what she does with her life. And I know she's on her phone when she does most of her posting, but still my boss wouldn't be too happy if I were on my phone non-stop. Just curious.

I have no idea, but if I had to guess, I'd say disability?





RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - onefortheroad - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 10:57 PM)kfran Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 10:48 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 10:29 PM)kfran Wrote: AG said something in the conversation between he & Maytee that struck a chord w/me. Something about the perps that killed Johnny & Lisa being "cowards" because they did not "physically kill" Johnny & Lisa, but instead used bags to let them suffocate. I guess I hadn't looked at it that way until AG put it in his own terms....

Some of those comments struck a similar chord with me, when he referred to the perps as spineless cowards who deserve the death penalty, and said what they'd done was truly evil. I've always had him pegged as one of the perps, but I'm starting to reconsider.

It's definitely putting a new spin on things for me. Do the perps not consider themselves murderers because they didn't "physically kill" JC & LS? I can't even begin to consume what is going on inside these perps minds.

I keep thinking about how Johnny looked in the casket, his face had no marks of struggle. For him to endure a struggle w/the perps, I'd find it so odd that they wouldn't end up in a fight. I do not know if Lisa had marks on her face or body, but it still seems so odd, let's just assume that their bodies were flawless, not a bruise or cut. IMO, that makes these perps contain a certain amount of something that I can't put my finger on. It all makes my head spin.

I got the sense that AG might have respected the perps if they'd killed Johnny & Lisa outright and that it was the method that he was repulsed by. The bags might have been used to torture the victims or it could be that the perps couldn't look at their victims' faces as they died, rather than stabbing or shooting them up close and personal, or it might be as you said that they didn't consider this to be a real murder. There are so many unknowns.

They had to have subdued Johnny somehow, whether with a gun or ?, as he would have fought for his life otherwise. Maybe when it came to it, they couldn't use the gun to kill, or possibly he said things to them that made them want him to suffer .....

My thoughts are all over the place about who, how, why.




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Jane - 03-11-2011

(03-11-2011, 01:58 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(03-11-2011, 01:49 PM)Nina Wrote: Freedom of Speech? Who is LE to say whether you can or can not have a FB account? I can see you getting in trouble posting something illegal (child porn, etc) or making threats and be charged with a criminal offense. I don't think LE could MAKE you take your FB down. However, I'm sure the people that run FB reserved the right to do that so they probably could.
yes, FB has the right to limit what is said on their server/site.

for example, i complained to FB about the facebook woman who was lifting Mock stuff w/o attribution. it seems they got right on her ass about it.
if FB gets complaints about threats or other offensive content, they will take notice.

Oh yes, & IF LE wanted her off FB, I suppose they could ask for it to be done. I mean, come on, she's out & out blaming people for MURDER, along with threats. Could it be, LE might want her to STFU, becuase her rants could screw up a trial?? Far-fetched, I guess, but good grief, if I was AG or TW & I was innocent of any wrong-doing, I'd be copying all this shit, taking it to a lawyer, or to LE, or something!!