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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-09-2011

Okay, I was going to also give the url for the source, but will omit it as you instruct:


Grieving Friend said:
Some of this information is true, some of it isn't. (She is referring to previous posts by others)
I personally knew Lisa very well. Her boyfriend was involved in dealing drugs. This does not mean he deserved to be violently murdered. Does the motive for the murder have anything to do with drugs or drug money? No one knows. It is a very real possibility, but not guaranteed, and all leads are obviously being investigated.
Posted 02/01/2011 at 10:08:48 PM

nothingnumb said:
what the media fails to inform anyone is that johnny was into serious shit gangs, drugs, and weapons. lisa first met him when he was right out of jail for armed robbery, i feel guilty talking down about the deceased but johnny took my friend lisa down because of the bullshit he was involved with. everyone continues to try and make him out to be a kid with his shit together it wasnt he continually bragged to people about all the people he would rob. she didnt deserve to be prematurely taken from this earth tortured and left to die in her parents kitchen and nor did johnny but i am sick to my stomach with disgust over this picture being painted of him being a saint he wasnt and i can bet my life on the fact that he WAS the reason this happened. i wish we could have been stronger to tell her to stay away but she loved him and as a friend i respected that and i know many others did too. people responsible need to be apprehended immediately because what they did deserves the same that they gave my friend they need to leave this earth by captial punishment and im terrified that somehow they will slip through the cracks. i love you lisa rest peacefully my little angel.
Posted 02/02/2011 at 05:00:35 PM


Grieving Friend said:
@tamo2000 Lisa was truly a free spirit, she did what she wanted. She was just such a sweet and caring person, which is why her death is so painful to those close to her. I don't want to dump on her life, but she had been traveling down the wrronggg path for a very long time. Her parents struggled to control her. She was young but old enough to make her own decisions at this point. It's a shame she couldn't see clearer. I don't know what she was like when she was very young, but I hear she was a wild child. Always happy, but wild.
Posted 02/08/2011 at 02:09:19 AM

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-09-2011

I say - check their jpay accounts and see who they were
corresponding with while in prison. Create the network.
I am sure the answer will be revealed somewhere there.

Basically this service allows you to send an email to a prisoner for
the cost of about 3 pages for a dollar. The inmate can write
back too but it is written and comes through the mail looking
like a fax copy of a letter the inmate has hand written.

JPay is a service provided to family and friends of inmates incarcerated in state, county and federal correction facilities. JPay partners with departments of corrections, prisons and jails across the country to provide money transfer, email and video visitation services for family and friends. Parolees can use JPay to pay restitution and manage a Release Debit Card.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 12:28 PM)fabulous Wrote: ok...more from the local "rumor mill"...remember Toledo is a small town... JC's dad was into drugs, selling and using. he was involved in a drug deal over the summer that "went bad" and a CI was seriously injuried because of it.

also... emailing/posting/texting etc. leaves the tone out of what would have been said... so if I said "what are you doing here?" there's no tone in that. I could have said "what are YOU doing here?" or "what are you doing HERE?" ...those mean different things depending on what word you put the emphasis. so in all this...we don't know what his tone was. (I hope this makes sense)... if I say "who are you?" is completley different than "WHO are you?" or "who are YOU?". so either way, if such a conversation was overheard, then it would make total sense that he might have known the suspects and not expected them at the Straub house...or maybe he knew one of the people and there were more than one... etc etc.

I'm hearing from some people locally that the house wasn't ransacked...but that it did look like there had been a struggle... ransacked may have been just an easy way for people to describe the scene..who knows.

has anyone seen JC'd dad's FB page... he looks like one scary dude! seriously!

Link to the FB page, pretty please.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 12:39 PM)Methusala Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 04:40 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:

her latest:

RIP Johnny My sweet love my sweet angel my life come sleep with me n dream with momma tonite i love u n lil brothers u are forever loved n missed n im forever heartbroken ;,,,,,,(
5 hours ago via iPhone ·

Maytee believes she has some kind of psychic powers. There are people who claim to be former "clients" of hers who have successfully "used her" in some sort of way, perhaps as a medium, so this kind of talk is probably nothing new for her.

There are still people who believe in the ability to summon spirits of the dead.

Yup. I've been thinking the same. Dunno if you saw those links where I found her "liking" the FB of some self described witch.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-09-2011

thanks Methusala. as long as we take all of that with a big shaker of salt. always remember, anyone can claim anything with no proof.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Kip - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 03:55 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [snipped]
i have to laugh, every imbecile on earth has a facebook or myspace to help investigators. and their musings can be used in court.[/b]

I know, it's crazy the information people put out there. Thank goodness for dummies. I was just helping our neighbor find new tenants for the house next door to us. And the people with facebook / myspace pages that show them to be wild partiers, potheads, etc. are probably wondering why nobody wants to rent them a house.




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 12:49 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: JC's dad:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000773739904

Thanks.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 04:06 PM)Kip Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 03:55 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: [snipped]
i have to laugh, every imbecile on earth has a facebook or myspace to help investigators. and their musings can be used in court.[/b]

I know, it's crazy the information people put out there. Thank goodness for dummies. I was just helping our neighbor find new tenants for the house next door to us. And the people with facebook / myspace pages that show them to be wild partiers, potheads, etc. are probably wondering why nobody wants to rent them a house.
indeed Kip. Smiley_emoticons_wink

http://mockforums.net/thread-4517.html



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 12:57 PM)Kip Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 12:16 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: Was just looking on FB at the Justice for Johnny & Lisa page & found this:

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Tiffanny williams her boyfriend does home invasions and is in n out of prison. She is the same girl that set up jonathan jackson to get robbed by donald her boyfriend at tge time and jonathan got robbed by them but had gun andvin self defense shot her boyfriend donald and killed him on arlington last year
17 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She had a car tha nite she is a liar wen she called johnny she was goin out there to shoot pool with someone else i know in my heart she set him up she also stated she went by hoise several times after call and seen house ramsacked then she waits two hours to call someone to call me i hope she rots in hell that bitch ugh im sorry about my profanity but she is guilty as sin
17 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personKathy Anderson-Powers likes this..


You can read the whole conversation by going to the page & clicking on the "Just Others" link at the top. It's the 11th comment down, started by a male with the initials S.N. (not sure I can state his name here) Just thought some may be interested. Smiley_emoticons_smile

VERY interesting.

If true (and it sounds plausible), I wonder if Maytee ever reported any of this to LE before Johnny got killed or if she was okay with home invasions happening to other people.


^^In bold


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 04:04 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 12:39 PM)Methusala Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 04:40 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:

her latest:

RIP Johnny My sweet love my sweet angel my life come sleep with me n dream with momma tonite i love u n lil brothers u are forever loved n missed n im forever heartbroken ;,,,,,,(
5 hours ago via iPhone ·

Maytee believes she has some kind of psychic powers. There are people who claim to be former "clients" of hers who have successfully "used her" in some sort of way, perhaps as a medium, so this kind of talk is probably nothing new for her.

There are still people who believe in the ability to summon spirits of the dead.

Yup. I've been thinking the same. Dunno if you saw those links where I found her "liking" the FB of some self described witch.


Are you saying that "come sleep with me" is a metaphor for
"visit me in my dreams?" Why not just say that?



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - shitstorm - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 01:05 PM)RJs-Ex Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 12:49 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: JC's dad:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000773739904

Looks like Johnny and his dad both have the same tattoo of Cuba on their chests.

Here I thought I was good with geography. I thought that was a poorly done lightning bolt, lol.

Good catch.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-09-2011

Just to add another Bee to some bonnets:

While trolling around the Lucas County Sheriff's website and just thought I'd check sex offenders and guess what??? Within one mile of that house there are 4 sex offenders living at the same address!! Check it out...that's creepy!

Within 1 mile, I Googled it:

2100 Longacre Ln
Springfield Township, OH 43537

SexOffenders address: (4 at same address) :O
6201 Garden Rd, Maumee, OH 43537

Distance: 1.5 miles, but it's closer because on the Lucas county website it puts this address within 1 mile of the Longacre Ln address.

This was just another avenue to look down and a creepy one at that...

I am sure they checked out these sex offenders, but they did say there were pants or something around Lisa's neck? Right or was I reading something else?




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-09-2011

I listened to the 911 tapes. Can someone explain to me why
Mom would say that someone may have abducted her son?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-09-2011

Quote: "…everyone continues to try and make him out to be a kid with his shit together it wasnt he continually bragged to people about all the people he would rob."

IF this were to be true, this is new information I had not seen anywhere before. If so, contrary to what his mom says, he may have made a LOT of enemies. Angry enemies of the most dangerous and revengeful kind.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 04:14 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Just to add another Bee to some bonnets:

While trolling around the Lucas County Sheriff's website and just thought I'd check sex offenders and guess what??? Within one mile of that house there are 4 sex offenders living at the same address!! Check it out...that's creepy!

Within 1 mile, I Googled it:

2100 Longacre Ln
Springfield Township, OH 43537

SexOffenders address: (4 at same address) :O
6201 Garden Rd, Maumee, OH 43537

Distance: 1.5 miles, but it's closer because on the Lucas county website it puts this address within 1 mile of the Longacre Ln address.

This was just another avenue to look down and a creepy one at that...

I am sure they checked out these sex offenders, but they did say there were pants or something around Lisa's neck? Right or was I reading something else?

That's a apartment complex. Hidden Cedars Condos. I used to live there LOL Still gross but not 4 pervs living in the same house.:O



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Love Hippos - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 03:40 PM)BlueTiki Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 03:10 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=7947443

LE HAS SAID OFFICIALLY THAT IT IS LINKED TO A ROBBERY THAT HAS GONE WRONG.

Robbery NOT Burglary.

"Person" NOT "Structure".

This should add to the discussion.

Are you stating the actions of the perps were against Johnny and/or Lisa rather than the house - i.e., the intent was to take something from the victims rather than the house?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Methusala - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 04:11 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 04:04 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 12:39 PM)Methusala Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 04:40 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:

her latest:

RIP Johnny My sweet love my sweet angel my life come sleep with me n dream with momma tonite i love u n lil brothers u are forever loved n missed n im forever heartbroken ;,,,,,,(
5 hours ago via iPhone ·

Maytee believes she has some kind of psychic powers. There are people who claim to be former "clients" of hers who have successfully "used her" in some sort of way, perhaps as a medium, so this kind of talk is probably nothing new for her.

There are still people who believe in the ability to summon spirits of the dead.

Yup. I've been thinking the same. Dunno if you saw those links where I found her "liking" the FB of some self described witch.


Are you saying that "come sleep with me" is a metaphor for
"visit me in my dreams?" Why not just say that?

She did just say that:
Quote: "…come sleep with me n dream with momma tonite …"



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Butterfly Girl - 02-09-2011

Article published February 09, 2011
Family of Springfield Twp. murder victim sets up reward fund


Johnny S. Clarke and Lisa Straub were found dead in the Straub family home Jan. 31.


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The family of Lisa Straub on Wednesday set up a fund at Fifth Third Bank where donations may be made toward a reward for information leading to the arrest of the people responsible for the murder of her and her boyfriend.

Miss Straub, 20, and Johnny S. Clarke, 21, were found asphyxiated with plastic bags over their heads in the Straubs' Longacre Lane home in Springfield Township Jan. 31. Investigators say they believe the two were killed in a robbery attempt at the home.

Straub family spokesman Jim Verbosky, Miss Straub's uncle, said her funeral was held Wednesday morning at St. Patrick of Heatherdowns Church. He said a number of people have contacted the family wanting to make donations toward a reward in the case so the family has set up the “Lisa Straub Benefit Fund.” Donations may be made at any Fifth Third Bank branch.

Visitation for Clarke will be held from 2 p.m. to 8 p.m. Friday at Blanchard-Strabler Funeral Home where a memorial service is planned for 10 a.m. Saturday.




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 04:19 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-09-2011, 04:14 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Just to add another Bee to some bonnets:

While trolling around the Lucas County Sheriff's website and just thought I'd check sex offenders and guess what??? Within one mile of that house there are 4 sex offenders living at the same address!! Check it out...that's creepy!

Within 1 mile, I Googled it:

2100 Longacre Ln
Springfield Township, OH 43537

SexOffenders address: (4 at same address) :O
6201 Garden Rd, Maumee, OH 43537

Distance: 1.5 miles, but it's closer because on the Lucas county website it puts this address within 1 mile of the Longacre Ln address.

This was just another avenue to look down and a creepy one at that...

I am sure they checked out these sex offenders, but they did say there were pants or something around Lisa's neck? Right or was I reading something else?

That's a apartment complex. Hidden Cedars Condos. I used to live there LOL Still gross but not 4 pervs living in the same house.:O
OH okay 4 pervs in the same building, it's still creepy, lol. Smiley_emoticons_shocked


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Kip - 02-09-2011

(02-09-2011, 04:14 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I listened to the 911 tapes. Can someone explain to me why
Mom would say that someone may have abducted her son?

IMO, because of Tiffany's story about the strangers confronting Johnny, not being able to reach Johnny or Tiffany, and, again IMO, because she knew the kind of people Johnny was involved with.