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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 12:11 AM)pplrcrazy Wrote:
(04-13-2011, 12:03 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Wow...seems the "shyt" is really rolling right now.
Guess it goes to prove that people that live in glass houses...
should never throw stones.
Looks like theres gonna be alot of broken glass when this clears.
I for one, am glad to see it. Once someone starts talking, then
others will talk. Its only a matter of time.

We do have to keep in mind that it only takes one person to start a rumor or state their own opinion and others will follow weather is fact or not... We dont know anything for sure until LE anounces something...

Exactly.
Someone will step up and tell the truth....for reasons to do with the
rumors...whether the lies, rumors and innuendos include them or
someone they love or care about. It will happen. Someone will either
slip, or do it on purpose.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Nina - 04-13-2011

Oh yes, please give these
(04-13-2011, 12:11 AM)pplrcrazy Wrote:
(04-13-2011, 12:03 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Wow...seems the "shyt" is really rolling right now.
Guess it goes to prove that people that live in glass houses...
should never throw stones.
Looks like theres gonna be alot of broken glass when this clears.
I for one, am glad to see it. Once someone starts talking, then
others will talk. Its only a matter of time.

We do have to keep in mind that it only takes one person to start a rumor or state their own opinion and others will follow weather is fact or not... We dont know anything for sure until LE anounces something...


Oh yes, let's give these poor kids the benefit of the doubt. yeah ok. I don't give a damn what they say at this point....I think they know what happened to these kids but even if they don't, they are still menaces to society. Get their sorry ass off the street.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Nina - 04-13-2011

I don't want to insult anyone but I talk to AG too and I will tell you this...when he doesn't think he is talking to his mama or his grandma's peers he talks a whole lot different than I've seen on here. Trust me he is playing with some of you kind hearted ladies. Don't get played.....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 04-13-2011

(04-12-2011, 11:00 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: I Seen on Google that a Texas priest was killed by way of plastic bag suffocation, and it was done with money as motive. It's a pretty interesting story, the killers which are caught now, killed the pastor and beat his assistant damn near to death, which was a woman.

if anyone is curious about this case:


(CBS/KTVT) ARLINGTON, Texas - Steven Lawayne Nelson, 24, and Anthony Gregory Springs, 19, were both arrested and charged with capital murder Monday following the suffocation of Rev. Clinton Dobson and the brutal beating of his assistant.

Rev. Dobson was found dead in NorthPointe Baptist Church in Arlington on Thursday, and his assistant Judy Elliott was beaten badly.

The Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office released information Monday that Dobson, 28, had been suffocated with a plastic bag, reported CBS station KTVT.

Elliott, 69, is still remains hospitalized and has not been able to speak with investigators yet.

"Hopefully we'll be able to speak with the surviving victim, so that we can get an idea of how entry was gained and we can confirm what may have occurred," Arlington Deputy Police Chief Jaimie Ayala said to the station.

Police say cooperation from the public and the leads they provided played a big role in the investigation. Investigators say that includes information from two women who were with Nelson and Springs after Dobson's murder.

In a four-page affidavit, police state "while watching television, a news story about the incident played before the group. Both Nelson and Springs began laughing and making inappropriate comments about Dobson's death. Both females know Nelson and Springs to commit aggravated robberies together and they were recently trying to rob people within the past couple of days."

The affidavit also says Nelson confessed to Springs that he had robbed the church and further admitted he had killed Dobson.

Police have said robbery appears to have been a motive in the case.

Nelson and Springs are each being held in the Arlington City Jail on bail totaling more than $1 million.

murdered Pastor, his surviving assistant, 2 suspects (black males) --->



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pspence - 04-13-2011

Lady Cop asks "did AG know his comments would be published here/made public? "


Yes. I asked his permission first if I could print it on Mockers and he said "sure, if you want to".

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pspence - 04-13-2011

NightOwl said "Yes I think they are madly in Love - and they have a much better picture up there on facebook "

Hi Sweet NightOwl...AG was referring to Maytee not J/L...when he said "yes she really loves me..."

of course a little sarcasm.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Duchess - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 05:49 AM)pspence Wrote: Yes. I asked his permission first if I could print it on Mockers and he said "sure, if you want to".


This sounds a little "out there" but, do you think he would allow himself to be interviewed by us? Not all of us of course but if we came up with some questions would he be willing to answer them? I'd be interested in reading his opinion of what he thinks went down that night.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Snoopy - 04-13-2011


This sounds a little "out there" but, do you think he would allow himself to be interviewed by us?

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And if he would not want to come on here, maybe he could address a few questions through you? I am most curious who he thinks or feels, is involved in this crime, and if he has any guess as to what the motive would be?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - pplrcrazy - 04-13-2011

Ag told me last night that he does not want to come here and i quote "i dont want to talk on that mock forum because regardless of what i said people are still going to have their opinions" whatever his reasons are thats fine with me.. I talked to him for a long time last night and I still dont know if he had something to do with it but he says that J and L didnt deserve that and that he is cooperating with police and so is tiffany... like I told him if hes innocent then he better change his life style and if hes guilty well then he already knows whats going to happen....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 09:17 AM)pplrcrazy Wrote: Ag told me last night that he does not want to come here and i quote "i dont want to talk on that mock forum because regardless of what i said people are still going to have their opinions" whatever his reasons are thats fine with me.. I talked to him for a long time last night and I still dont know if he had something to do with it but he says that J and L didnt deserve that and that he is cooperating with police and so is tiffany... like I told him if hes innocent then he better change his life style and if hes guilty well then he already knows whats going to happen....

JMO but I don't trust a theif & I've learned that the hard way. I think it takes a special kind of person to hold a gun to someones head &/or to take from someone, things that don't belong to you & have no remorse for it. As far as what AP is telling you & another member of the board, he started off speaking the same way to Maytee until he let his anger & emotions get involved. At that point he said things like "Johnny feared me in life, did he grow balls in his casket?" & "Johnny was always asking "AP isn't gonna be there is he?" & that Johnny was a coward"

Now I'm not completely sold on AP being involved. TW says she was with Z that night. It's possible that AP wasn't involved & honestly believes that TW wasn't either. However, I do believe she was involved. As far as them cooperating with LE, does LE need their permission to access their phone records? or is this volunteering beyond their control? I think it's pretty safe to say, given that he has a "Stop Snitchen" tattoo on his arm that he's not going to spill any beans to LE & he's not going to come here & say anything about who was involved or even who he thinks was involved. That would be snitchin.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 04-13-2011

Have any local or national psychics chimed in, regarding this crime?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - melrose - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 09:49 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote: I think it's pretty safe to say, given that he has a "Stop Snitchen" tattoo on his arm that he's not going to spill any beans to LE & he's not going to come here & say anything about who was involved or even who he thinks was involved. That would be snitchin.

Yeah, this.

For those of you who "speak" to AG and the other people involved in this case -- Do you mean that you knew them before this case, or you just contacted them to try to get information once this all began. If the latter, what makes you think that anything they would tell you would be at all genuine or of any significance?

Also, don't you feel like you're crossing some kind of line from being a curious observer to being intrusive when 'playing detective' online actually involves communicating with potential suspects?



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - SayWhat123 - 04-13-2011

Anything new??

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Lady Cop - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 01:11 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: Anything new??

is there some reason you can't just read the thread and keep up to find out? like everyone else? you do this frequently. are we supposed to summarize for you when you decide to pop in?



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LytoMe - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 01:04 PM)melrose Wrote: [quote='Freshbait78' pid='157435' dateline='1302702582']
For those of you who "speak" to AG and the other people involved in this case -- Do you mean that you knew them before this case, or you just contacted them to try to get information once this all began. If the latter, what makes you think that anything they would tell you would be at all genuine or of any significance?

Also, don't you feel like you're crossing some kind of line from being a curious observer to being intrusive when 'playing detective' online actually involves communicating with potential suspects?

I AM SO glad you asked this, this exact thing was crossing my mind. Did you know of the players before the murder? Or are you just curiously asking questions?
That is a BIG difference in the response you’re going to get from a known criminal. As for the "nice" interview of TW here, these people are who you want them to be at that moment.Insane


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curious - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 12:53 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: Have any local or national psychics chimed in, regarding this crime?

Maytee Sarcastic

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - imsuchawildflower - 04-13-2011

Justice Will Prevail for Johnny and Lisa
Silence is a virtue we will have our day in court thats a promise!!!!!!!!! Noone gets away Rest in heaven johnny n lisa love n miss you both so much
3 hours ago via iPhone

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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ALWAYSBITCHEN - 04-13-2011

That night that this all happened has it ever been told what TW's reaction was when they found the bodies?

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - ALWAYSBITCHEN - 04-13-2011

I counldnt agree more with you Nina.It is my opinion that this whole crime has to do with drugs.They say there is only 3 ways out of drugs and that is 1.institutionalized 2.imprisonment 3.death and it is a shame to say that these poor kids had to take number 3...Signs_173

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Meesha - 04-13-2011

(04-13-2011, 01:11 PM)SayWhat123 Wrote: Anything new??

Everyone's been arrested, now we're just waiting for the trial to start. Duh, didn't you read the thread?