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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 12:17 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Why put it out there so everyone that frequents the page is left wondering even more what is going on!

I think you answered your question.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - fabulous - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 12:03 PM)concerned Wrote: It is just a little to quiet here in Toledo. That is giving me some hope that the county is onto something.

I totally agree!!!! I think there are "bigger" things at play here than a botched robbery/planned home invasion in which only a coin jar was stolen...

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Red_velvet71 - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 12:15 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 11:45 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: maytee's page:

RIP Johnny Johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;,,,,,,,(
32 minutes ago



RIP Johnny Love u sweetness comin to see u now ;,,,,,,,( johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
40 minutes ago via iPhone ·


so is she alluding to her own death to see him? what about her other 2 sons? they must be a total mess with this going on. i am afraid the funeral will be real dramarama show, more than the usual grief and sorrow.

Oh boy. Fortunately, I have never had to plan a funeral so I'm not sure what is involved, but perhaps she is going to the funeral home? Coming from her it's really hard to know. Hopefully someone is keeping a watchful eye on her!


She's not going to off herself, she's just a drama queen. She really is a mental case. IMO


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - browntabby1226 - 02-10-2011

Maybe while JC was getting LS from work someone like T and others use the key to go in the house to take some stuff like drugs or cash.Decide to disarm the panic alarm on the security system or something and used the book left out by LS parents in case of alarm issues.Looking around the house they hear them come home or surprised by them. A scuffle occurs and felt there was no choice but to finish them off because they knew them.Now T in a state takes her time to come up with story.Picking her up? she had a car.Talked to them was a rouse to show she isn't involved but cant tell a good story and hung herself. This is just my thoughts right now.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - LytoMe - 02-10-2011

I apologize for the font. My focus has been mainly on Ms. Tiffany, what is her timeline? Where was she prior to the call, does she have witness’ to state she was at a certain location? Who actually picked up Johnny’s father?
AND I think I can answer the question, just from reading this forum, WHY the focus is mainly on Johnny and his friend, and NOT Lisa’s friends. Because if you notice, no one involved (to date) was a friend of Lisa’s as we see so far. They are either family of Johnny or friends of Johnny. AND another question, WHAT is her friend’s opinion of how or why this happened? LOVE to hear their side of the story.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 12:17 PM)Adub Wrote: About Corrigan being murdered. So, because Maytee says it was a botched robbery it makes it so?

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/story.aspx?id=447820

Quote:TOLEDO, OHIO -- Toledo Police have charged an 18-year-old in the shooting death of a Toledo man early Wednesday morning.

Jonathan Jackson is now in the custody of Toledo Police as he awaits booking into the Lucas County Jail. Police say he shot and killed Donald Corrigan, 20, outside the Arlington Arms Apartment complex in South Toledo around 2:00 a.m. Wednesday. The men were attending a party inside the complex when a fight broke out and spilled out into the street, according to authorities.

Corrigan apparently walked half a block before collapsing. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Jackson has been charged with one count of Murder. Police have not said if the suspect had a motive in the crime.

No this makes it so:

TOLEDO -- An 18-year-old Toledoan is heading to prison for shooting and killing a man.

Jonathan Jackson was sentenced Wednesday to six years in prison for the shooting death of Donald Corrigan. Jackson was at a house party on Arlington Avenue on April 21, 2010 of when some men showed up and robbed everyone.The teenager then decided to take the law into his own hands and returned to the scene and opened fire. 20-year-old Corrigan was shot in the chest and died




RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-10-2011

Only six years for a death? THAT IS HORRIBLE.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - TotallyCurious - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 10:54 AM)Kip Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 09:58 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: One thing that stuck out to me, and I thought about it all night. This person states that she was just swimming with Lisa and Johnny days prior to their death. Now in Toledo, the only place to swim would be some sort of hotel/motel. With the experience I have with druggies (hometown is HUGE for druggies), hotels/motels are usually a druggies haven. Just makes me wonder what kind of "activities" they were taking part in the week prior to their death.

I don't think they were swimming - I'm pretty sure the pool party refers to playing pool (on a pool table). I thought the same thing, though, when I first read about the pool party - who goes swimming in February in Ohio! Awink


swimming -----
code word for being stoned
"Are you swimming Briana?"
"Fu*k ya i am"
"
A slang term used as smoking marijuana (cannabis). Often times can be linked by using:
- Water = Marijuana
- Swimsuit = Pipe
- Wet - Being high
Hey do you want to go swimming after school? I'll bring the water and my swimsuit!

used when you want to sniff cocaine or have already sniffed.
you guys wanna go swimming,lets go for a swim, lets go swimming etc.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 12:17 PM)Adub Wrote: About Corrigan being murdered. So, because Maytee says it was a botched robbery it makes it so?

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/story.aspx?id=447820

Quote:TOLEDO, OHIO -- Toledo Police have charged an 18-year-old in the shooting death of a Toledo man early Wednesday morning.

Jonathan Jackson is now in the custody of Toledo Police as he awaits booking into the Lucas County Jail. Police say he shot and killed Donald Corrigan, 20, outside the Arlington Arms Apartment complex in South Toledo around 2:00 a.m. Wednesday. The men were attending a party inside the complex when a fight broke out and spilled out into the street, according to authorities.

Corrigan apparently walked half a block before collapsing. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Jackson has been charged with one count of Murder. Police have not said if the suspect had a motive in the crime.
No, I guess she was wrong it wasn't a botched robbery, he and 2 others botched party crashing! The kid who shot him got 6yrs. Johnathan Jackson was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

Here is what I found:

Man shot dead while leaving South Toledo party
Article published April 22, 2010 The Toledoblade

A 20-year-old man who got into a fight and pulled out a gun at a party in South Toledo wound up with a bullet through his chest early Wednesday.

Donald Corrigan of Toledo was pronounced dead at 2:20 a.m., shortly after he was shot outside an apartment building at 2010 Arlington Ave. No one has been arrested in the death.

Police said Corrigan and two others had crashed a party at an Arlington Avenue apartment and gotten into a fight with at least one other person. As they were leaving, Corrigan waved a gun in the air. Police said someone else had a gun, and the two exchanged gunfire.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20100422/NEWS02/100429917/-1/RSS10

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 01:19 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 10:54 AM)Kip Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 09:58 AM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: One thing that stuck out to me, and I thought about it all night. This person states that she was just swimming with Lisa and Johnny days prior to their death. Now in Toledo, the only place to swim would be some sort of hotel/motel. With the experience I have with druggies (hometown is HUGE for druggies), hotels/motels are usually a druggies haven. Just makes me wonder what kind of "activities" they were taking part in the week prior to their death.

I don't think they were swimming - I'm pretty sure the pool party refers to playing pool (on a pool table). I thought the same thing, though, when I first read about the pool party - who goes swimming in February in Ohio! Awink


swimming -----
code word for being stoned
"Are you swimming Briana?"
"Fu*k ya i am"
"
A slang term used as smoking marijuana (cannabis). Often times can be linked by using:
- Water = Marijuana
- Swimsuit = Pipe
- Wet - Being high
Hey do you want to go swimming after school? I'll bring the water and my swimsuit!

used when you want to sniff cocaine or have already sniffed.
you guys wanna go swimming,lets go for a swim, lets go swimming etc.

I never even thought it might be code!! Shows how much I know about drugs. Very very interesting!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 01:01 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Only six years for a death? THAT IS HORRIBLE.

Well, I guess Donald and 2 of his friends went there looking for trouble with guns in tow, and that's probably why they let him, Johnathan Jackson, plea to involuntary manslaughter, he wasn't looking to kill anyone that night, and Donald and his buddies broke in-crashed the party he was at then started waiving a gun, so he just wanted to defend himself, why else would they let him plead down like that??

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - RaisingAPrince - 02-10-2011

JC's response to the news reporting that the Straub's have set up a fund in Lisa's name.

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Im setting up a reward fund too as soon as i lay my beautiful son to rest ;,,,,,,(
14 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 5 people


God forbid she be "outdone" by the Straub's!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Freshbait78 - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 01:33 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 01:01 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Only six years for a death? THAT IS HORRIBLE.

Well, I guess Donald and 2 of his friends went there looking for trouble with guns in tow, and that's probably why they let him, Johnathan Jackson, plea to involuntary manslaughter, he wasn't looking to kill anyone that night, and Donald and his buddies broke in-crashed the party he was at then started waiving a gun, so he just wanted to defend himself, why else would they let him plead down like that??
I agree. Also I read in an article that Jackson was in college & had very little priors where as Corrigan had an extensive arrest record starting back as far as 11 years old for slashing tires & I think that also played a part in the judges decision.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 10:09 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 09:41 AM)fabulous Wrote: there is like hardly any mention about LIsa out there in cyberspace... no random posts anywhere...nothing really substantial from her friends or family (until today)... (at least not that I've come across)...her FB page is still up... no obit (yet)...
anyone out there have any thoughts or ideas about maybe the intended victims were the Straubs?
or that they were into something... maybe that's why they have laid so low... maybe they know more, ALOT more... I'm finding it so hard to believe that some south end toledo 20 year old thugs would murder someone like this...
just cause you live in a big house and are upper middle class doesn't mean your nose is clean... just sayin'

ONLY my opinion...i don't believe this family were the intended targets. in fact, i think them being away was a factor. there is too much evidence that Johnny had the kind of associates that would do this, not this older middle-aged couple. they've "laid low" because i think they are maintaining some dignity.
i find it very easy to believe 20-something drug thugs were capable of this.

Yes thank you LC, the parent's were not the targets and they are hiding nothing at all, just trying to lay their daughter to rest in privacy and with dignity. As I have posted here before, they have chosen to use "One" family spokesperson and that is Jim Verbosky, Lisa's uncle as you all have read his comments I'm sure by now. They want the focus on the investigation, not their grief, because their grief is personal and requires no publicity. Two of the family members are dear friends and all this family wants is to privately grieve as they publicly support and cooperate with investigators so those involved can be brought to justice. As for hoodlums in South Toledo doing this....I've lived here 40yrs and it is EXACTLY hoodlums from the South end that are the group to do this!!! This is a classic MO from the South end...as we all have learned, Ms. Tiffany's soldier in heaven she brags about was....well hmmmm...surprise, surprise a South end dude who got whacked while robbing someone...As crazy as JC's mama is and she is crazy...Tiffany and her little clan of robbers are my #1 people associated with a "?"

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - lotusflower - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 12:43 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 12:17 PM)Adub Wrote: About Corrigan being murdered. So, because Maytee says it was a botched robbery it makes it so?

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/story.aspx?id=447820

Quote:TOLEDO, OHIO -- Toledo Police have charged an 18-year-old in the shooting death of a Toledo man early Wednesday morning.

Jonathan Jackson is now in the custody of Toledo Police as he awaits booking into the Lucas County Jail. Police say he shot and killed Donald Corrigan, 20, outside the Arlington Arms Apartment complex in South Toledo around 2:00 a.m. Wednesday. The men were attending a party inside the complex when a fight broke out and spilled out into the street, according to authorities.

Corrigan apparently walked half a block before collapsing. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Jackson has been charged with one count of Murder. Police have not said if the suspect had a motive in the crime.

No this makes it so:

TOLEDO -- An 18-year-old Toledoan is heading to prison for shooting and killing a man.

Jonathan Jackson was sentenced Wednesday to six years in prison for the shooting death of Donald Corrigan. Jackson was at a house party on Arlington Avenue on April 21, 2010 of when some men showed up and robbed everyone.The teenager then decided to take the law into his own hands and returned to the scene and opened fire. 20-year-old Corrigan was shot in the chest and died
If you were a drug dealer and someone robbed you who would you call to report that to???? & that is what these lil stick up kids are counting on. That is what most of this crime in this little circle is involving (IMO). I has been reported that Jacksons gf's house was broke into the day after the murders of JC & LS in broad daylight.....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - curiouscat - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 01:52 AM)jash Wrote: Bout an hour ago from RIP Johnny

Quote:RIP Johnny Come sleep with me my sweet angel i want to see feel touch smell kiss hug you johnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;,,,,,,,(

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001456026613#!/pages/RIP-Johnny/190897417605357

She is really creepin' me out!

I am not trying to disrespect a mother's grief, I have teenage sons myself, but OMG seriously after I linked to this page I was creeped out, grossed out and disturbed....she describes him like a lover(or maybe I'm wrong)....just uncomfortable to read. Someone actually posted encouragement for her to continue writing through her grief on FB, Oh Boy!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - CarrotJuice - 02-10-2011

Two points for you internet sleuths:

1. Right after the crime, 2 anonymous people claiming to know the victims posted this in a news story, concerning Lisa's ex-boyfriend. "FOR LOVE SICK PERSON" wrote: Yes, I'm not Perry Mason, but I would like to add the motive of a sick ex-idolator who had a crush on Lisa and both Johnny and her knew the guy was sick but just blew him off. The old sick adage if I can't have her, neither will you.

And was replied to with this, by user "musicfanatic": THANK U! i totally agree with you, this ex lover has physically assaulted lisa multiple times before, has been in and out of jail, and is a extremely violent person. 2 days after lisa changed her relationship status on fbook to "in a relationship" and changed her default pic, to what i'm assuming to be her current one of her and johnny, she is murdered. He has been 2 her house multiple times before so is familiar with the layout and not to mention he is mutual friends with her friends so makes it easier for him to get inside information about her where abouts. The motive is perfect, the classic "if i cant you nobody can" murder, the classic patttern of domestic violence. I feel the robbery was staged to throw authorities off. This murder was way to planned out, it was someone with a grudge, who was after blood.

These are of course anonymous, maybe useless, clues, but they should at least remind us not to forget there are other leads worth pursuing. The timing of the facebook status change and the fact that this unknown gentleman was the suspect who immediately came to Lisa's friends minds should at least create reasonable doubt in the Ms. T theory for the time being.
The article they're found in is here:
http://toledoblade.com/article/20110202/NEWS16/102020307

2. Alternatively, back in posts 29, 35, 38, 41, 53, and 62, member "Unknown," who seems to know the participants in this better than anyone on this board, repeatedly refers to a Ms. T and Mr. Z. The former's identity has been confirmed, but the latter's was not even mentioned again until Johnny's mother posted on the RIP Johnny facebook page about how she hates "Tiffany and Zach." I did a quick search but can't find anyone with that name on facebook but perhaps someone else can.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - Mommabear - 02-10-2011

(02-10-2011, 01:39 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 01:33 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-10-2011, 01:01 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Only six years for a death? THAT IS HORRIBLE.

Well, I guess Donald and 2 of his friends went there looking for trouble with guns in tow, and that's probably why they let him, Johnathan Jackson, plea to involuntary manslaughter, he wasn't looking to kill anyone that night, and Donald and his buddies broke in-crashed the party he was at then started waiving a gun, so he just wanted to defend himself, why else would they let him plead down like that??
I agree. Also I read in an article that Jackson was in college & had very little priors where as Corrigan had an extensive arrest record starting back as far as 11 years old for slashing tires & I think that also played a part in the judges decision.

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20101202/NEWS02/12010430

Jackson was at a party at an Arlington Avenue apartment building about 2 a.m. April 21 when several men, including the victim, came in and robbed them, authorities said. During the incident, Jackson was beaten and his property was stolen.

The 20-year-old victim was among those who initiated the robbery. Everyone left the building, but Jackson returned with a gun. Authorities said it is not clear who initiated the gunfire.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - browntabby1226 - 02-10-2011

I listened to the 911 calls again and in # 2 she says a friend got a call from someone named Tiffany,doesn't sound like she knows her as a good friend of JC and LS to me. Wonder what that's about.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - BlueTiki - 02-10-2011

Three conflicting reports re: Corrigan.

However . . . connectamarillo.com showed Donald had a sidewalk memorial.

I guess the thugs in Toledo DO know how to honor their own.