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RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - JsMom - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:24 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: No I wasn't aware of any of thar

See then you as well as others are only hearing one side of her story! The end!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Brennan - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:43 AM)curiouscat Wrote: Here is a post for Maytee...A mother is not perfect and has committed sins and made mistakes, she is never, ever perfect in any way. But, a true mother recognizes these flaws in character and not only encourages her child to be better than herself, but discontinues doing things that cause harm to that child.

Wow. This post is touching, entirely profound. You have put many of my own struggles and thoughts about "bad parenting" into a format appropriate for a Hallmark card. (Wouldn't we all love to have that card at our disposal!?). I have spent a lot of time reading through this forum, and I often find myself ashamed of the DISGUST that I feel for this "grieving" mother. Your post has helped me to understand my anger. Maytee is clearly grieving, however, she is using the cover of a "mother" to get away with horrid, destructive behavior. Maytee's behavior is offensive because she is attaching her rage to "motherhood". Motherhood does NOT ENTITLE a woman to hate. I am a mother. MAYTEE DOES NOT REPRESENT WHAT I AM. Her rants are directly against a mother's instinct to provide, to nurture, to elevate her offspring above her own knowledge. Maytee represents dysfunction at it's core. She is part of a cycle that perpetuates evil by assuring the generation ahead is provided with the abuse of her own childhood. While her savage behavior may truly be instinct for her, it is NOT PROTECTED UNDER NORMAL MOTHERHOOD!



EVIL RANTS come from a place that is NOT associated to natural motherhood.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Lady Cop - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:24 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: No I wasn't aware of any of thar

always arm yourself with facts. i can see you are young. you'll learn to get ALL the info you need before condemning. or supporting. do some reading here on the case and our history with the case. we have always wanted justice, we have over a million views of 2 threads and over 30,000 posts on this one case. people who care. for months nobody kept this case going besides Mock. NOBODY on the internet kept this case alive in the minds of people. the Police on case have tracked this thread/site. maytee hates us because we have exposed a lot of things she did not want known. that's ok. we have nothing to hide or be ashamed of.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - imsuchawildflower - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:04 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: Um yeah I am .friends with maytee and I can spell bitch and speak very good english. So maybe u should shut the hell up

OHMYGOD! you can??
Prove it.
I dare you.
NO...I DOUBLE dog dare you!

c'mon...dazzle me with your brilliance.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Brennan - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:31 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:
(10-14-2011, 02:04 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: Um yeah I am .friends with maytee and I can spell bitch and speak very good english. So maybe u should shut the hell up

OHMYGOD! you can??
Prove it.
I dare you.
NO...I DOUBLE dog dare you!

c'mon...dazzle me with your brilliance.

HeeheeSmiley_emoticons_razz

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - imsuchawildflower - 10-14-2011


Amen curiouscat and Amen Brennon.


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Dev0nn@babygirl - 10-14-2011

I am young and I am a mother .. I don't agree with what some of this bs say about maytee or john. Everyone makes mistakes .. and everyone has a past. That's why you live and learn from it .. and yes maytee did say hurtful things. But that doesn't give anyone the right to trash the Clarke family

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Sphincter Cop - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:30 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: always arm yourself with facts. i can see you are young. you'll learn to get ALL the info you need before condemning. or supporting. do some reading here on the case and our history with the case. we have always wanted justice, we have over a million views of 2 threads and over 30,000 posts on this one case. people who care. for months nobody kept this case going besides Mock. NOBODY on the internet kept this case alive in the minds of people. the Police on case have tracked this thread/site. maytee hates us because we have exposed a lot of things she did not want known. that's ok. we have nothing to hide or be ashamed of.

Time and time again, this woman has attempted to twist the facts to suit her own self serving purposes. Her irrational accusations against innocent people (slander), false statements against the Straub family, deceptive practices to make a buck, odd rhetoric on facebook, and her continued obsession with this website speaks volumes when it relates to her lack of character. I am unsure if she is mentally challenged or just injudicious. Then again, we are dealing with someone who has a history of not abiding by the law (public record). Just her bizarre commentary demonstrates a huge disrespect for that process.

She is entitled to grieve as any parent should. However, I question the mental faculties of anyone who attempts to disparage the memory of one victim over another. Then make slanderous (FALSE) statements or innuendo in the direction of the other victim’s family. Her antics have proven he to be inferior. It is almost sad, but I have no empathy for someone so underhanded. Then again, I don’t for most criminals. She is only the voice for her son, and thats questionable.

It appears that there is Maytee’s truth, and then the actual truth. You have to take a sifter to everything she may claim or incoherently project towards those people she cannot challenge intellectually. Jealously, insecurity, grief, and an overall sense of being a failure is for therapy; not facebook. Yet, her opinions have been a consistent ramble of false, derogatory, and accusatory statements that only serve a higher injustice to her, not anyone else. But I do not think she has the mentality yet to understand this. Where are these infamous people that were called out on facebook as being guilty months ago? Oh, they are not the ones with the label murderer on them right now. Someone has a big apology to make, so have the balls to do it! If I were the victims of her slanderous allegations saying I did this crime. I would be filing a lawsuit! Then again, what reward would I reap. Dollar store jammies?

The facts are clear and have been well represented by numerous people who have commented publicly and privately on many social forums (including here!). Her son was not citizen number one, but he had an opportunity for change. You cannot point the finger of blame solely at any parent for what their child may do. But, when you look at the senseless remarks that have been made, deleted, and reposted without taking any culpability for them (by her). It's not a question anymore. You soon realize how pathetic and ridiculous she really is. Her threats are as empty as her respect for the justice system. Has she realized how many people have basically sided with the other family? Probably not and never will. Because she can’t get past her own mental derangement. Which is more criminal than anything!

A past record does not define a person in the end, and no one has ever made that statement; that I am aware of about either victim. I just read everything in the last month. Facts are facts. People will have varied ideas as to why this occurred. Its a discussion of information, not accusations.

The issue here (on Mock) has always been a concern for why such a brutal occurrence like this happened. The crime was not fair to either victim, their families, or friends. There has always been a continued demand for justice to be fairly executed upon the accused and any accomplices that may exist. I think the point is clear and no one has argued, that justice & the death penalty are supported in this case.

The fact is, the real story of the victims lives will come out in court. We will see a factual version of information presented, that we already know to be true and cannot be censored, or manipulated. This doesn’t mean that people will develop a lack of empathy. Its part of the story. Like I have said, it does not solely define them as human beings but mama‘s words have already sentenced her son in the publics eye by her persistent, and lackluster performance on the internet.

CHA CHA CHA.....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Lady Cop - 10-14-2011

a superb, insightful and accurate assessment SC.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Brennan - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:59 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: I am young and I am a mother .. I don't agree with what some of this bs say about maytee or john. Everyone makes mistakes .. and everyone has a past. That's why you live and learn from it .. and yes maytee did say hurtful things. But that doesn't give anyone the right to trash the Clarke family

AGAIN, many of us are mothers (and to more than just our own children). HATE, "voodoo", wishing death on other people's loved ones, THAT DOES NOT COME FROM being a mommy. One word to Maytee- BOUNDARIES.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Duchess - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:59 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: But that doesn't give anyone the right to trash the Clarke family


Well, actually it does give me a right. I don't owe her any courtesy at all. She has publicly slammed my SuperMod who has been utterly dedicated to this story from day one. LC has devoted a tremendous amount of time making sure that only facts have been presented as FACT. People are allowed their opinions here & Maytee can't stand that. She has disparaged Mock & her Members again & again.

The moment that voodoo bozo opened her mouth against LC, Mock & her members was the moment that opened the door for me to say whatever I wanted within the law. I don't take her feelings into consideration & I don't have to.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - NightOwl - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 01:59 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: Johnny and Lisa were good people who die because of cameo and Samuel .. I hope them basters die the most painful death

Welcome! Wondering what your opinion is on Samuel Williams and Cameo Pettaway? we already know they are thuggy bastards and then some!

It was a bitter cold night out when these 2 or maybe more went over to the Straub's home - it is approximately 30 minutes drive from the east side of Toledo to Holland, Ohio - I cannot figure out why anyone would drive that far in freezing cold with a roll of duct tape and bed bath and beyond bags & end up torturing Johnny & Lisa for what? What did this couple have? What did this couple do? to ever deserve this do you have any thoughts Dev0nn@babygirl? Thanks!

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - MikeyA - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:59 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: I am young and I am a mother .. I don't agree with what some of this bs say about maytee or john. Everyone makes mistakes .. and everyone has a past. That's why you live and learn from it .. and yes maytee did say hurtful things. But that doesn't give anyone the right to trash the Clarke family

OH get off your self righteous high horse you dolt. My family has been friends with the Straub's for years and the way Maytee has trashed them in their time of grief is deplorable enough for her to rate the treatment she has gotten here and more.

So Maytee calling the people on here child molesters doesn't give them the right to respond? Riiiiiiiiiiight.

I'd advise you to go out and rethink your life choices.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Lady Cop - 10-14-2011

'Everyone makes mistakes .. and everyone has a past'



well i don't know about the rest of you Mocktards, but i don't have a criminal record. her eldest son was what, about 11 or 12 here? good influence. that's something for a boy to respect and admire and emulate as a role model. and this is just a small clip of her jacket.


COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1)CLARK MAYTEE C BREAKING & ENTERING F5
2 (D -1)CLARK MAYTEE C BREAKING & ENTERING F5
DATE SEQ EVENT

1/4/2002 1 Title : NEW CASE# CREATED/REASSIGNMENT
SEPARATING THIS DEFENDANT FROM CO-DEFENDANTS IN CASE NUMBER
CR01-1574. MENTALLY DISORDERED OFFENDERS PROGRAM.
FROM
JAMES D JENSEN TO FREDERICK MCDONALD.
PARTY : D1 - CLARK MAYTEE C


RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Duchess - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 03:50 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: well i don't know about the rest of you Mocktards, but i don't have a criminal record.


I don't have a record either.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - NightOwl - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 03:05 PM)Sphincter Cop Wrote: The issue here (on Mock) has always been a concern for why such a brutal occurrence like this happened. The crime was not fair to either victim, their families, or friends. There has always been a continued demand for justice to be fairly executed upon the accused and any accomplices that may exist. I think the point is clear and no one has argued, that justice & the death penalty are supported in this case.

Sphincter Cop, this paragraph is excellent! right on!! & thanks!

P.S. Your avatar is great!



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - BlueTiki - 10-14-2011

(10-14-2011, 02:09 PM)Dev0nn@babygirl Wrote: ... they are good people who lost three son ..

Good Gawd!

Her other two are gone? Oops! Smiley_emoticons_stumm

And yes . . . I have a record.

In fact . . . several.

I love my albums and cover art.



RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Dev0nn@babygirl - 10-14-2011

@Mikey A. I've seen what maytee has said about Lisa family. Yes that is horrible. And mean .. Lisa family doesn't deserve to be trash at all. I don't agree with what she said by any means .. its just sad that it has come down to trash talking .. when it should be about the justice for Johnny and Lisa.

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Dev0nn@babygirl - 10-14-2011

@blue Yoko I ment there

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub case part 2 - Cracker - 10-14-2011

Dang. Speechless.

Maytee wished harm on my son serving this country in Afghanistan. She deserves every bit of poking she gets. The rest of society doesn't act like that, just mentally ill people who don't know when to stop.

I have no sympathy for Maytee. I have enduring sympathy for the two boys left over there. They don't have a chance to have a happy, normal life. That is a damn shame.