(02-11-2011, 08:50 PM)Cracker Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 08:42 PM)netsleuth Wrote: I've been lurking and have decided to post again in this thread, alone. Partly because I don't see many of the type of comments being made here that I took issue with.

niggas nigga niggas niggas niggas nigga

Wow. I see what you mean.

Quote:2. Can law enforcement get a search warrant for ALL calls/phones pinging near the crime scene the night of the murder or can they only put in a search warrant for phone numbers only known to belong to persons of interest in the case?

2. Can law enforcement get a search warrant for ALL calls/phones pinging near the crime scene the night of the murder or can they only put in a search warrant for phone numbers only known to belong to persons of interest in the case?


OK i thought you were asking me some technical phone stuff. i would pretend i didn't hear you.

warrants need sworn affidavits supporting probable cause before a judge will sign them. you can't just get warrants for everybody who pinged off that tower that night. there has to be a nexus to the suspect.

(02-11-2011, 08:57 PM)netsleuth Wrote:

Quote:2. Can law enforcement get a search warrant for ALL calls/phones pinging near the crime scene the night of the murder or can they only put in a search warrant for phone numbers only known to belong to persons of interest in the case?

Whatever phone Tiffany or ? called Johnny from, can be traced. Once they have his records, I'm sure they can find out anything they need to know.

(02-11-2011, 09:10 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i think RIP Johnny was just made private when the wake ended.

(02-11-2011, 01:08 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote: THANKS LADY COP...I just cant find that post cuz he clearly goes into that he/she has info about his mother and MR Z mother. They are so many comment and you know I love your site. and I didnt comment for a long time and always enjoyed your comments. I must have taken your comment wrong. As for the comment from fresh bait, maybe your right but i believe that cocaine is more expensive and so is herion than percs. WAY MORE EXPENSIVE, believe me. Also havent you heard that they addicts enjoy snorting the stuff. whether it be in pill form or not. crushes it make it looks like you are getting more. JMO...But I could be way off base here. However, I BELIEVE THIS WAS DRUG RELATED AND the people who killed them didnt have money to pay for the requested drug that they arranged for Johnny to have there. Also r they sure that Johnny actually picked up LISA at TGIF's?

(02-11-2011, 09:13 PM)Springfield Twp Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 09:10 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i think RIP Johnny was just made private when the wake ended.

I can still access it, but did not see any new postings.

(02-11-2011, 09:03 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: 2. Can law enforcement get a search warrant for ALL calls/phones pinging near the crime scene the night of the murder or can they only put in a search warrant for phone numbers only known to belong to persons of interest in the case?


OK i thought you were asking me some technical phone stuff. i would pretend i didn't hear you.

warrants need sworn affidavits supporting probable cause before a judge will sign them. you can't just get warrants for everybody who pinged off that tower that night. there has to be a nexus to the suspect.

(02-11-2011, 09:08 PM)TellMeACrimeStory Wrote: Can people buy prepaid phones where there are not signed contracts
showing who purchased them?

Quote:Is their a serial number or anything assigned to them which will lead back to where the phone was purchased and can a person pay cash for a phone and not have ANY record who purchased it, besides potential video footage during the purchase?

Quote:Just wondering if murderers could have used a phone while at the crime scene or nearby it if they thought it was untraceable to them (for example they could have used it to stay in touch with Tiffany and she could have one as well if she is involved in dealing) that night when it CAN be traced easily and come back to haunt them.

(02-11-2011, 09:13 PM)Springfield Twp Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 09:10 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i think RIP Johnny was just made private when the wake ended.

I can still access it, but did not see any new postings.

(02-11-2011, 09:20 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: RIP Johnny is on Facebook Sign up for Facebook to connect with RIP Johnny.

the WALL is not visible to me.

(02-11-2011, 02:00 PM)Pimpette Wrote: Have you noticed that a lot of contacts in common with T have weird facebook status and some others have problems sleeping ..? Here for over a week to read .. continue .. !

(02-11-2011, 08:46 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 07:28 PM)jash Wrote:

Quote:With my experience in CJ classes, psychology and sociology it all leads back to MS T....I hope she is ready, cuz she is better off if the police name her and she turns on the perps...Hispanic justice is not the same, I am not Hispanic but I have heard how it works and I could be wrong, but she is meeting with a vengeance even if it is a remote "possibility" she is not involved....JC's family thinks she is and well, from any retaliation I've learned or heard of...her time is limited....speculation is all they need for revenge and even though Toledo is considered small, it is a city of angry Hispanics...Goood Luck to MS T....getting pregnant with a few of their own and giving birth will not cut you any slack once you cross the line...they are vengeful and will get you if justice doesn't beat them to the punch...and then even....T has very few trusted allies left, I can guarantee that...in this community her JEALOUS cruelty has crossed the line.,,,she has no protection IMO...kinda like that...now I'm just being real. While I have no proof, jealousy was a motivator here and Ms T is a jealous bitch....hope you had fun bitch, ride soon to be done.. Gloves off, tried to remain kind, but she disgusts me......whether thru LE or the Hispanic community....you are just damaged, evil and welll.....only my opinion from my experience with Toledo and it's Hispanic community over the years.,,,not to sound vindictive, but I finger her, in one way or an other she is part of this & I AM CERTAIN they do too! Sorry for her luck, NOT they are not to be messed with because jail time is nothing to them for the revenge of lost loved ones...not just in Toledo, all over in their community.

Just had to respond to this since I'm Hispanic.
I don't think revenge is solely attributed to the Hispanic race and I certainly don't think Toledo is a city of "Angry Hispanics" since I live him and hardly ever get angry..
I think you might be confusing the Hispanic people as a whole, with

HOOD RATS that happen to be Hispanic. The Hood Rat Gangstas are all about revenge, violence, etc. and personally I think JC family and certain associates qualify as hoodrats. JC dad and mom have already publicly threatened whoever did this, and who knows? maybe they can keep the "gangsta mentality" alive and well in this city by the shit they post and the shit they do.

Don't lump all us Hispanics into one...Those Hoodrats that are Hispanic give us ALL a bad name, but were not ALL bad!

Excellent statement!

jash do you happen to know if this BD ex-boyfriend's family has an outdoor oriented business? Thanks!

(02-11-2011, 09:17 PM)netsleuth Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 09:08 PM)TellMeACrimeStory Wrote: Can people buy prepaid phones where there are not signed contracts
showing who purchased them?

Yes.

Quote:Is their a serial number or anything assigned to them which will lead back to where the phone was purchased and can a person pay cash for a phone and not have ANY record who purchased it, besides potential video footage during the purchase?

It's probably not that complicated. Yes, there are serial numbers and assigned phone numbers to various companies. Throw away phones are traceable to an extent. In a case where such a phone was used, I'm sure the only evidence necessary would be a call coming to J's phone at the time T said she called, and/or testimony of other friends saying what T's phone number was. Remember Sharita got a call from T as did Johnny's Mom.

Quote:Just wondering if murderers could have used a phone while at the crime scene or nearby it if they thought it was untraceable to them (for example they could have used it to stay in touch with Tiffany and she could have one as well if she is involved in dealing) that night when it CAN be traced easily and come back to haunt them.

I don't think anything is totally untraceable when it comes to electronic footprints. Especially given T admits to making a call. I think she did this because she had a known, registered number and she needed to try and explain contact with JC on the night of the murders.

(02-11-2011, 08:02 PM)Methusala Wrote: With all the talk about Tiffany Tiffany Tiffany, let's not forget to save some anger and hate for the murderers themselves who actually laid cruel hands on these two young people, and tortured and killed them, and took them from their families that loved them.

We surely cannot be satisfied simply with implicating Tiffany. No matter how cold her heart and her treachery, those literally with blood on their hands have even colder hearts, and must be found, proven guilty and punished.