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Cheap Fuckers - BlueTiki - 02-02-2011
I got a call, yesterday, from a client.
He decided to prepare his own tax return using a reputable and solid tax preparation website. He stated he and his wife decided they couldn't afford my services, this year.
After he finished his return, however, he wanted me to "Just double-check" his returns.
So far, I've calculated he's overpaying his (Fed) taxes by $2,300.
State: Overpaying by $200.
I'm half tempted to tell him: "Looks good. File it."
Cheap bastard.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Lady Cop - 02-02-2011
i hope to hell you charged him $2,300. to double-check it.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - username - 02-02-2011
Too bad you can't just charge him $2,000 for "double-checking". He'd still be coming out $500 ahead. Idiot.
Damn LC, beat me to it, lol.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Duchess - 02-02-2011
Tiki, say something immediately, nicely of course but, say it nonetheless. Don't let him take advantage of your business acumen, that's what he's doing & since you were gracious enough to help this year he will be encouraged to try again the next time the need arises.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Maggot - 02-02-2011
I would go with the "looks good file it" option.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - sally - 02-02-2011
He expects you to double check it for free? He's got some nerve, I'd definitely let him make the overpayment.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Lady Cop - 02-02-2011
(02-02-2011, 05:25 PM)Maggot Wrote: I would go with the "looks good file it" option.
only problem, it could ultimately harm Tiki's professional credibility. assuming he paid her anything to check it over.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - sally - 02-02-2011
I'm assuming she did it for free or very cheap, otherwise I don't see what the problem is if they have a fair agreement on the charge for double checking it.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - BlueTiki - 02-02-2011
Here's the funny thing. Before I reviewed their returns, they were to receive a Fed refund of $7,200 and a State refund of $600.
We are high school friends. I'm also a CPA.
Even with the complexities of his taxes (personal, LLC AND Corporation) he always got a discount. Last year the charge was $475.
There is no charge for me to review his taxes. It is gratis. A favor.
He also knows I volunteer my services to low income and non-english speaking citizens, during tax time.
What I resent is the statement: "We can't afford your tax prep this year."
Financially, they're solid. No outrageous debt - comfortable savings and investments - solid and profitable businesses.
And then there's the Trust Fund.
I'm thinking of suggesting a breakfast meeting. Have him and his wife bring a boat load of unnecessary documents and receipts.
You know . . . "Just to be sure". And . . . "You don't want to go through an audit." Plus . . . "Penalties are a bitch."
I'll propose a fee of 20% of either additional taxes OWED or REFUNDED for the service - SINCE TIMES ARE TIGHT!
I'll call him at home, tonight.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - username - 02-02-2011
(02-02-2011, 07:26 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: There is no charge for me to review his taxes. It is gratis. A favor.
That was a mistake. Maybe a reduced fee as compared to actually preparing his return but "favor" and business don't mix (especially since he doesn't exactly qualify for charity work). They're taking advantage of you.
If he's any type of woman (lol), once he realized how much you saved him, he'll offer to pay you for your time but some people are greedy and clueless--I wouldn't hold my breath.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Cracker - 02-02-2011
He needs your services all year if the dumbfuck is getting a refund. If he makes a comfortable living, how the fuck does he get a refund? Tax refunds piss me off. Especially for businesses. How can someone who own a business get a refund? I don't get it. Did he make overpay his quarterly taxes? Did he lie like a mofo?
Tax refunds are for people who make shit money and get that Earned Income Credit. It is free money for poor people who want to go to Disney. Or for people who are too stupid to do their W-4 correctly. These are the same people who are two months behind on their mortgage but will buy new electronics and take the kids to the beach instead of catching up their bills with their yearly welfare check (tax refund).
If you get a refund and are not below the poverty level, you are an idiot for giving the gov't a bunch of your money every month. They didn't give you interest or a reach-around. You basically screwed yourself. I could go on and on about tax refunds, but I'm tired. You get the main idea.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - username - 02-02-2011
(02-02-2011, 11:10 PM)Cracker Wrote: Tax refunds are for people who make shit money and get that Earned Income Credit. If you get a refund and are not below the poverty level, you are an idiot for giving the gov't a bunch of your money every month. They didn't give you interest or a reach-around. You basically screwed yourself. I could go on and on about tax refunds, but I'm tired. You get the main idea.
Logically, I know you're 100% correct but I STILL want a fucking refund. After having paid some ridiculous amount in taxes, it pains me no end to have to write an additional check at the end of the year. It's like adding insult to injury.
I know it's wrong...Uncle Sam is basically getting the benefit/interest on our money when we could be investing it but God damn, even if it's only $100, I want some fucking money back.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - IMaDick - 02-02-2011
what pisses me off is that I lost the child deduction, but I still pay fucking taxes to send everyone elses mistake to school, take away my child tax credit, then I don't want to pay for fucking schools either.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Cracker - 02-02-2011
(02-02-2011, 11:21 PM)IMaDick Wrote: what pisses me off is that I lost the child deduction, but I still pay fucking taxes to send everyone elses mistake to school, take away my child tax credit, then I don't want to pay for fucking schools either.
Somebody paid for your ass to go to school. Parents DON'T pay for schools, they get child deductions, so the people WITHOUT kids pay for the schools (and property owners, that's who pays about 80% of public education costs). That is the way it has always worked.
You probably owe some barren couple a shit ton of money for your misused education. Pick some old people and buy them breakfast at Denny's. You owe them.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - Cracker - 02-02-2011
(02-02-2011, 11:18 PM)username Wrote:(02-02-2011, 11:10 PM)Cracker Wrote: Tax refunds are for people who make shit money and get that Earned Income Credit. If you get a refund and are not below the poverty level, you are an idiot for giving the gov't a bunch of your money every month. They didn't give you interest or a reach-around. You basically screwed yourself. I could go on and on about tax refunds, but I'm tired. You get the main idea.
Logically, I know you're 100% correct but I STILL want a fucking refund. After having paid some ridiculous amount in taxes, it pains me no end to have to write an additional check at the end of the year. It's like adding insult to injury.
I know it's wrong...Uncle Sam is basically getting the benefit/interest on our money when we could be investing it but God damn, even if it's only $100, I want some fucking money back.
I overpay a tiny bit because I get completely pissy when I have to pay at the end of the year. I get that. Just make sure it is a small refund. If not, you really did fuck yourself and probably funded 6 ACORN houses.
RE: Cheap Fuckers - BlueTiki - 02-16-2011
I met with my friend, yesterday. You know . . . the one that got me all huffy and starting this thread.
I caved to my "adult" instincts (two weeks ago) and instead of the breakfast meeting option I, instead, sent an email identifying 6 areas for him to review.
Additionally, I suggested that he consider filing an extension, as he had no tax liability.
I also included the names of three CPAs he might consider using for a review.
Anyway . . .
Comes now my friend with hat in hand. Seems he thought my fee was a tad pricey, so he contacted two of the three CPAs I recommended.
Bottom line - full review (not an audit) and tax prep: $2,100 and $2,600.
His reaction to my new fee was, I would say, "restrained outrage". However, it was less than the solicited fees.
The actual (combined) amount he missed and was willing to overpay was approximately $2,300. (Okay . . . I originally estimated $2,500 . . . but before the 1900's, $2,500 was an acceptable depiction of $2,300 . . . it's a Dutchess - Duchess accounting thing - so I am not wrong)
He assumed, from our first conversation, that the error was an underpayment.
I'm not quite sure if his red-face was due to embarrassment or anger.
His returns are done and he gets to explain this whole escapade to his wife.
To me, that is priceless!
And . . . to all of you . . . thanks for the advice.