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RE: 2012 ELECTION - sally - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 12:04 PM)Duchess Wrote:

I'll always be the first to say that everyone is entitled to their opinion & I value free speech but this freedom bullshit really has the ability to wind me the hell up. People talk about freedom like it's been lost. Well, tell me what you've lost? Are you being confined? Are you unable to live as you always have? Just what the fuck have you personally lost and want back?

It annoys me too, I just chalk it up to people being brainwashed morons. They're the same people who say every election that they're going to move out of the country if so and so is elected 78.




RE: 2012 ELECTION - Cynical Ninja - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 12:18 PM)IMaDick Wrote: will your life style continue as it is if the dollar continues to devalue?

will your life style and ability to do what you want when you want remain the same at a 50+ tax rate?

will your ability to do what you want when you want stay the same with 5 or 6.00 a gallon gasoline?

will your ability to do what you want when you want if food prices continue to rise?

you know each of those things are things we have no control over, but the government does, they limit food production, oil reserves, and our tax rate.

you already told us that you have generators and gold for when the shit hits the fan, why would you plan like that if you expected everything to remain the same?

you know duchess, I would like to think that our lives will remain as they are, our parents thought the same thing and their parents before them, talk to your dad about his childhood, and if you can ask about his parents life style and freedom, perhaps by contrast you will find what I'm taking about, with each enlargement of government comes regulation, regulation by definition is a limiting of your rights.

you do not live as free today as your parents did and they did not live as free as their parents did, and our kids won't live as free as we did.

History is plain and simple if a person takes the time to look.

the plans for health care, for taxes on mileage on your travel, the hikes in fuel prices are all designed to limit the people, to decrease our ability to move, and as a result our freedom will be quantified by government regulation.

just like it has been over the last 150 years.






RE: 2012 ELECTION - username - 05-13-2011

Poor Dick. It must be hard when you're barely getting by. 11


RE: 2012 ELECTION - Duchess - 05-13-2011



will your life style continue as it is if the dollar continues to devalue? Yes

will your life style and ability to do what you want when you want remain the same at a 50+ tax rate? Yes

will your ability to do what you want when you want stay the same with 5 or 6.00 a gallon gasoline? Yes

will your ability to do what you want when you want if food prices continue to rise? Yes

you already told us that you have generators and gold for when the shit hits the fan, why would you plan like that if you expected everything to remain the same? Cowboy is a coin nut..loves gold. Everyone knows I live on a farm, we have to have the generators for water. Cowboy is older than I am, he comes from a generation that plans for every freakin' thing that can go wrong, unlike myself who flies by the seat of my pants. Smiley_emoticons_wink



RE: 2012 ELECTION - username - 05-13-2011

I'd like Tiki's take on this:

By one measure, federal taxes lowest since 1950
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
The Associated Press
Monday, February 7, 2011; 2:07 PM

Taxes too high?

Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.

And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.


Full story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/07/AR2011020703664.html




RE: 2012 ELECTION - Cynical Ninja - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 12:42 PM)username Wrote: I'd like Tiki's take on this:

By one measure, federal taxes lowest since 1950
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
The Associated Press
Monday, February 7, 2011; 2:07 PM

Taxes too high?

Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.

And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.


Full story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/07/AR2011020703664.html

To quote your very good self:-

"The truth is incovenient for dick right now, please try the truth again later, thank you".

hahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhahhah


RE: 2012 ELECTION - IMaDick - 05-13-2011

Talk about brain washed.

Jesus you people are fucking stupid.

No new taxes on people making less than 250,000 per year. Obama's words.

Obama's plan

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42919365/ns/politics-more_politics/t/pay-mile-timely-tax-idea-or-privacy-threat/

sounds like a new tax to me, the politically challenged retards are fucking this country up. listen to what is being said and by who , how fucking hard is that?

and because there is no common sense in the lot of you, here is a simple question.

who is in charge of collecting the funds for the health care bullshit?

could it be the IRS? what is their job? could they be tax collectors?

who wil they be collecting from? just those who make more than 250,000 a year?

jesus christ ,






RE: 2012 ELECTION - Duchess - 05-13-2011



Hahahaha!

I like your new av, Dick...I've got a thing for spades. Smiley_emoticons_fies



RE: 2012 ELECTION - username - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 01:14 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Obama's plan

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42919365/ns/politics-more_politics/t/pay-mile-timely-tax-idea-or-privacy-threat/

That's a great article about a mileage tax, Dick. Are you so fucking stupid though that you missed this part of it?

The draft proposal was first reported this week in Transportation Weekly, a trade publication. A White House spokeswoman told The Hill newspaper that the draft "does not represent the views of the president” and is in no way an administration proposal.

The White House put the brakes on a similar proposal floated early in Obama's presidency, with then-spokesman Robert Gibbs said that a mileage tax "is not and will not be the policy of the Obama administration."



RE: 2012 ELECTION - Duchess - 05-13-2011



Bwahahahaha!



RE: 2012 ELECTION - IMaDick - 05-13-2011

No I'm not that stupid, are you so stupid that you are forgetting who is the President and that this is once again before congress?

it seems to me that you have a problem with actual information, reasoning it out beyond your blindness, and then reaching a conclusion based on current events.

it was a nice try at deflection though, when it passes it will be obama's bill, no one elses.

if it passes will it be a new tax?




RE: 2012 ELECTION - IMaDick - 05-13-2011

May be this one will be better for you, it has Obama's picture and everything.

http://biggovernment.com/shazlett/2011/05/09/obamas-national-mileage-tax-is-a-bad-idea/


RE: 2012 ELECTION - Cynical Ninja - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 02:45 PM)IMaDick Wrote: and then reaching a conclusion based on current events.

As opposed to reaching a conclusion based on bullshit and Glenn Beck conspiracy balls.

hahTwat


RE: 2012 ELECTION - username - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 02:50 PM)IMaDick Wrote: May be this one will be better for you, it has Obama's picture and everything.

http://biggovernment.com/shazlett/2011/05/09/obamas-national-mileage-tax-is-a-bad-idea/

Just STFU. Like I'm going to trust an article from a site called "biggovernment". That's probably more biased even than Faux News.

God damn, Dick. hahhahhah




RE: 2012 ELECTION - IMaDick - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 02:52 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:
(05-13-2011, 02:45 PM)IMaDick Wrote: and then reaching a conclusion based on current events.

As opposed to reaching a conclusion based on bullshit and Glenn Beck conspiracy balls.

hahTwat

OP, since you don't work and you don't pay taxes what exactly do you think you can add to this conversation other than some uneducated bullshit?

You have to the most retarded fucking person that has ever been released from a mental institution.






RE: 2012 ELECTION - Cynical Ninja - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 02:55 PM)username Wrote:
(05-13-2011, 02:50 PM)IMaDick Wrote: May be this one will be better for you, it has Obama's picture and everything.

http://biggovernment.com/shazlett/2011/05/09/obamas-national-mileage-tax-is-a-bad-idea/

Just STFU. Like I'm going to trust an article from a site called "biggovernment". That's probably more biased even than Faux News.

God damn, Dick. hahhahhah

This coming from a retard who turns his nose up at links to wikipedia.

hahTwat


RE: 2012 ELECTION - Duchess - 05-13-2011



Big government? Hahaha! Dick, Dick, Dick.



RE: 2012 ELECTION - IMaDick - 05-13-2011

Username, it's obama's plan, it doesn't matter what you think, if you don't want to trust the sites I give you then go look in the senate and house records for the discussion.

Jesus, stop talking like an uneducated citizen of the UK.

when it passes will it be a new tax? will obama's words of no new taxes for anyone who makes under 250K a year be true or not?


RE: 2012 ELECTION - Duchess - 05-13-2011



He thinks people who make more than $250,000 are rich. That's just stupid. You'd think an attorney would know that's simply not the case.



RE: 2012 ELECTION - Cynical Ninja - 05-13-2011

(05-13-2011, 02:59 PM)IMaDick Wrote: OP, since you don't work and you don't pay taxes what exactly do you think you can add to this conversation other than some uneducated bullshit?

You have to the most retarded fucking person that has ever been released from a mental institution.

A - I pay taxes
B - I work
C - I am far better educated than dick.
D - I am not retarded and I have never been to a mental institution.

In other words.........