(09-14-2015, 07:08 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(09-14-2015, 05:37 PM)pyropappy Wrote:

(09-13-2015, 12:56 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: You can imply that us not being convinced by what you've put forth equates to stubbornness, but that's no more true than suspicion and lack of evidence equating to fact and evidence of guilt.

So, you believe there was no classified material on her server?

I really don't know why you're so interested in what I believe, pappy.

There's no reason I need to compare, contrast, and commit to any of the many conflicting opinions/interpretations regarding Hillary Clinton's email, server, and content classification/handling practices.

I can choose to wait for the experts who are actually investigating first-hand to finish their review and release their conclusions. That's what I'm going to do in this case, as I've said repeatedly.

I understand that you and some like-minded members here are convinced that she's guilty of a lot of things. Others believe that this is nothing but a bullshit manufactured scandal and that Clinton did nothing wrong. Others don't care much about this scandal one way or the other.

I'm not arguing or agreeing with any of those convictions/positions because I'm neutral, by choice, for now. If she's guilty of more than poor choices (like intentional or negligent security breach, policy/law violations...), she's screwed. If not, she'll probably just carry on. I can live with either outcome.

(09-14-2015, 07:37 PM)Duchess Wrote: I believe there's a reason she declared so far out, they know what she's up against and they will use this time to get the bullshit out of the way. It won't stop, it never does, but it gets manageable.[/i][/size]

(09-14-2015, 07:41 PM)pyropappy Wrote: You are incapable of offering an opinion?

(09-14-2015, 07:37 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(09-14-2015, 05:37 PM)pyropappy Wrote: So, you believe there was no classified material on her server?

I'm insulted for Hillary that you would think she would be so stupid & lax. Seriously. You forget who you're talking about here. This campaign has probably been years in the making. Not only is she incredibly smart but she surrounds herself with the same caliber in person. Many people who share your opinion of the Clinton's have spent years and more money than any of us will ever see, on bringing down Bill & Hillary.

I believe there's a reason she declared so far out, they know what she's up against and they will use this time to get the bullshit out of the way. It won't stop, it never does, but it gets manageable.

(09-14-2015, 08:24 PM)Duchess Wrote:

I advised against that apology, just so ya know.

(09-14-2015, 08:17 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(09-14-2015, 07:41 PM)pyropappy Wrote: You are incapable of offering an opinion?

Jesus Christ.

You're incapable of comprehension.

ONCE AGAIN: I'm uninterested in attempting to form an opinion in this case at this time.
I choose to remain objective/neutral until such time as confirmed details are available from credible first-hand sources.

Should something solid be presented that sways me one way or the other in the meantime, I'll let you know immediately, pappy. Scout's honor.

(09-14-2015, 10:23 PM)pyropappy Wrote: I am quite capable of comprehension; my point is you are intellectually dishonest. You say you are neutral, but you have posted every talking point from her campaign in her defense. You post carefully crafted opinions to steer the direction of the debate. You then make accusations based on those false premises. The only bullshit in this thread is from you and your ilk.

You have stated your opinion you feel she is the most qualified in the race. Yet, you can’t muster the intestinal fortitude to weigh in on the one simple question; you are waiting for the experts to render their opinion. Again I call bullshit; you are just waiting for the campaign to give you your talking points. Your faux spectacle of neutrality and fake indignation is nothing more than a tactic. Shakespeare said it better than I ever could (to paraphrase): methinks you doft protest too much. When faced with facts they don’t like progressives follow three simple steps: admit nothing, deny everything and make counter accusations.

That’s right facts!

There was classified material on that server. If that is not true, then:

a. Why has State (credible first party source) redacted hundreds of pages of those emails when forced to publish them by FOIA requests? Their stated reason was classified and sensitive material.

b. Why did FBI (credible first party source) take control of her server, the server in the third party office and the thumb drive in procession of her attorney? The one thing in common between them is those emails.

Please give any other credible explanation to those two simple questions; you can’t.

In my opinion you are nothing but a hypocrite; a typical progressive living in a fantasy world you wish existed. All your writhing and manifestations will not change this fact either; I am honest and can express my opinions without dodging and subterfuge. I can back them with fact whether you wish to acknowledge them or not.

My opinion is she is a POS; I base that on the fact she is a liar and how she treats people beneath her. Character and integrity used to mean something in this country; it is the progressives in both parties changing that. It will not end well; a reset is coming,you better get prepared.

(09-14-2015, 11:02 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: HoTD, did you like the Oz take on Hillary?

(09-15-2015, 05:26 PM)F.U. Wrote: This one actually made me LOL. Funny shit!!!!!!!!

(09-15-2015, 09:40 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: stupid.

They think they're brilliant.