(11-10-2016, 09:48 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I don't personally remember protests after Obama was elected, MS.

What I do remember is that Obama never threatened to take away anyone's constitutional, civil or social rights. Instead, he promised to push for more/equal rights for ALL segments of society. That, of course, threatened and pissed off some people who always want to have the MOST rights.

Trump, on the other hand, has some people feeling threatened because he, in fact, threatened to take away their rights. Here in San Francisco, the protesters with whom I've personally interacted (including some of my employees) are birthright citizens with parents from various countries. Trump threatened to ignore or reinterpret the constitution in order to strip them of their citizenship and deport them. That would, of course, turn their lives upside down. They're scared. So, they protest. It's hard for me to reassure any of them that Trump was just talking shit when I don't know any more than anyone else what was red meat for the core base and what was actually policy proposal.

My gay clients and friends are protesting as well, as is almost the entire LGBT community here, as far as my eyes can see. They fought for marriage equality and gay rights so hard for decades before finally getting favorable Supreme Court decisions during Obama's second term. Then......during his campaign........Trump casually said in a couple of interviews that he'd be open to pushing for an overturn of same sex legalization. Would Trump really do that once he becomes the leader of the country? Again, who the fuck knows. But, it would obviously have a huge impact on gay people's lives. So, they protest.

Trump can alleviate the kind of fear and anger that's spurring a lot of the protesters here anytime he wants, IF it was just campaign rhetoric. But even if it was just rhetoric, I doubt he'd risk upsetting the birthers and other more extreme members of his early/core support base anytime soon.

(11-10-2016, 10:49 PM)Carsman Wrote: The Donald pretty damn quick better hold some press conferences to state his "real" or reformed positions now that he's Prez,

(11-10-2016, 08:27 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I've just got to ask, and hopefully someone can refresh my memory, but, were there protests in multiple cities after Obama was elected?

I'm sure there were many disappointed racist rednecks when he won the election, but did groups of them take to the streets? Petition for his impeachment before he took office? Ask on the Internet that someone kill him?

I'm asking in all seriousness, because I've forgotten if that was the case.

What I'm seeing now are thousands of mostly young people, mostly of non-Causasian persuasion, losing their minds.

In all fairness, I sense the little guy, mainly the little white guy, expressing his/her feelings through their vote for Trump, of being ignored for the last 8 years, because all the attention has been focused on: minorities and the LGBT crowd.

8 years of Political Correctness and catering to them.

I, for one, never thought an Old White Guy could ever get elected again in this country.

All the Dems never thought they'd see the day where White disenfranchised voters would outnumber theirs.

Strange stuff.

(11-11-2016, 09:11 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(11-10-2016, 10:49 PM)Carsman Wrote: The Donald pretty damn quick better hold some press conferences to state his "real" or reformed positions now that he's Prez,

I'm not sure why anyone would have that expectation when it comes to him. He's spent years showing you exactly who he is. Believe him. He is not a selfless individual who cares about others and he doesn't care what you think about that, it's irrelevant to him.

(11-11-2016, 10:19 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: That person taking a shit on the sidewalk in not a Trump protester, Gunnar. That's a hoax claim. That video is from 2015 and was not filmed in the United States.

Back to reality.........I'm directly impacted by Trump protesters more than anyone here, I imagine. I don't in any way begrudge them for exercising their rights to gather and demonstrate and nobody here is shitting in the streets. Why people are so opposed to other people exercising their rights to gather and demonstrate is beyond me.

I did see some coverage of a protest in Oakland yesterday and it looked liked people were starting to confront police. Nobody was shitting in the street there either, but I hope the protests don't spur rioting. If they do, anyone who vandalizes or engages in violence there (or at any of the nationwide protests) should be arrested. That's how it works.

(11-11-2016, 10:47 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: Well go figure, somebody posted up something on the internet that wasn't true.

(11-11-2016, 10:59 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(11-11-2016, 10:47 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: Well go figure, somebody posted up something on the internet that wasn't true.

Yeah, but I'm used to you doing that by now.

(11-11-2016, 10:52 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Perception is reality, Maggot. Your perception is not the reality I see with my own eyes.

You defended people who -- in protest of what they believed was federal government threatening their God-given rights -- illegally occupied federal property, disobeyed and pointed loaded weapons at law enforcement, vandalized federal property, and did in fact shit all over the place. In the process, they streamed videos that were about as looney as it gets, by any measure. They disrupted a community for over a month and cost tax payers millions of dollars. You supported THAT (armed) protest by rural white ranchers and militia members despite the lawlessness of it because you agreed with their cause (or you just identify more with the protesters).

I think your objectivity is very limited and your assessment of this particular cause is deeply flawed. But, that's just my perception.

(11-11-2016, 10:37 AM)Maggot Wrote: This wouldn't happen on the 15^th or 30^th of the month.

Now you're implying all protesters live off the government!

(11-11-2016, 11:55 AM)Maggot Wrote: You are pretty perceptive for a luscious sweet sexy love goddess.