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Forbes recently interviewed him. The only thing I agreed with was his flat 10% tax for all. He's a brilliant weirdo who once compared women who had abortions to Michael Vick abusing dogs. I wouldn't support him for a variety of reasons but mostly because of his stance on gays. I'm not going to support anyone who doesn't believe gays should have the same rights I do.






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He has a "Holier than Thou" attitude I don't like.

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I believe in God but he didn't give me my ethics. That sort of thing stems from how one is raised and by the people one surrounds themselves with.

This man has zero chance of going anywhere in a Presidential race.






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01-31-2015 07:14 AM
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hah Good morning!!!






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(01-31-2015 07:14 AM)Duchess Wrote:  This man has zero chance of going anywhere in a Presidential race.

I don't know, Duchess.

Think about how many people, including conservative politicians, don't believe that gay couples should have the same rights as everyone else. Same sex marriage has gained a lot of support over the last two years, but it's still illegal in 20 states.

I think a lot of those same people, including conservative politicians, are the ones who feel strongly that abortion is murder and should be illegal -- they're successfully shutting down clinics.

There are a lot of Americans who are morally or ethically against same sex marriage and abortion, likely stemming from their religious beliefs (or the religious beliefs of those who raised and surrounded them).

If he can get campaign funding, I think Carson will run and might get pretty far in the race. If he continues to soften his position on gun control, he could appeal to an even bigger segment of the American population.

I would not vote for the man either.





01-31-2015 10:43 AM
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I have a question and I do not care about the color of a mans skin, It's integrity so..........

What is the difference between blindly voting for a person because of the color of their skin and blindly voting against a person because of the color of their skin?






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I don't think there is a difference.






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I don't think Ben Carson would ever win anything with his backward platform...The new Republican party wants to take us back to the 50's......where it was very much a man's world with unequal rights for women. I grew up surrounded by conservative Republicans. Won't go into details but then I was growing up, there was a whole lot of prejudice against the "colored" as they were called then. I evolved into someone that was clearly not O.K. with that. Some of you will call me a Liberal, or whatever. However, i just believe that everyone should have equal rights. Why would you be arrogant enough to believe that you are better than someone else? It is pure chance that you are born a certain color, to a certain "social" class, messed up chromosomes, and so on. Some of the most self-righteous people are the most hypocritical, close minded, judgmental people, but elect to call themselves Christians....and then we have those who want the Government to butt out of their lives, but they are there in line to collect unemployment, receive funds in a disaster, etc....oh wait they want Govt out of their lives, but they still want Gov't to tell women what to do with their bodies. Terminating a pregnancy is between the woman and her doctor. People like Ben Carson would have us return to the day of back alley abortions where women actually died. Don't you dare judge until you have walked in their shoes....If you believe you should live your life according to the Bible, then you believe in hate, rape, killing, homosexuals are an abomination, slavery is o.k.,etc. The best we can do is to treat each other with mutual respect and love....well maybe like would be more appropriate. Your spirit counts more than quoting verses from the Bible. You carry God (or higher power of your choice) in your heart and you will be judged by how you treat others...The new Republican party is full of people like Ben Carson sadly and are bringing back prejudices, interfering with health decisions, and the oppression in general, of women....Welcome to the 1950's. I don't want to go back there. In 1972, I went into Dept store to buy a gallon of paint to paint interior of my home. Clerk asked me for my ID which I provided. Then he asked for my place of employment. I had just resigned from job with Gov't to go back to college full time. I took out student loans, and cashed all the money I had in bonds, to finance this. When I told him I wasn't employed but was a student (I was 39 at the time),he had such a shocked look on his face so he asked about my husband's job. Told him I was not married so he wasn't going to cash my check for $23.00. I then asked him to call my bank to verify that I had that money in bank (other customers were now in line observing all of this), He proceeded to call bank and verified that I had the money. I then turned around and walked out of store without the paint and I never again in my life went back to that chain.....I lived with that feeling of oppression as a young woman and knew instinctively (at age 18 in college-first time) that women were not treated fairly and were, indeed, considered the "Second Sex." Ironically, even way back in 1953, one of my books for class was a book by that name. I should have looked up author, but I agreed at that tender age with the author. Date rapes were prevalent in the college environment, but you wouldn't think of reporting it as you would get chastised for allowing it to happen and for drinking too much....it was always, blame the victim, type of environment, no exceptions.
Finally, why does it bother so many "straight" people that two people of the same sex can love each other? It is not a choice. You don't have to agree, just don't judge what you don't understand....Gayness has been around since beginning of time....and today, in some countries, you can be killed for being gay.
Why do we all feel that we can decide what is right for other people? Well, I didn't mean to write an essay, but I am just so weary of reading about yet another politician like Mr. Ben Carson.





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(01-31-2015 06:45 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:  I went into Dept store to buy a gallon of paint to paint interior of my home. Clerk asked me for my ID which I provided. Then he asked for my place of employment. I had just resigned from job with Gov't to go back to college full time. I took out student loans, and cashed all the money I had in bonds, to finance this. When I told him I wasn't employed but was a student (I was 39 at the time),he had such a shocked look on his face so he asked about my husband's job. Told him I was not married so he wasn't going to cash my check for $23.00. I then asked him to call my bank to verify that I had that money in bank (other customers were now in line observing all of this), He proceeded to call bank and verified that I had the money.


My boss has told me a lot about that period of time. She's got a shit ton of stories about what it was like for her being a very young woman and trying to start a business. It was back then that she started going by her initials. She couldn't even get a foot in the door after her given name was seen, bankers & other associated people wouldn't give her the time of day when they saw she was a female. I work in a mainly male dominated field and there is still some of that around but it is nothing like what it used to be, not even close.






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BlueBerryHill, I applaud your essay and find it very pertinent.







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I don't know that much about her but: Olympia Snowe. I recall her impressing me several times for breaking with her party over certain issues.

Maggot, I DO think the Republican Party is eating itself. They disagree on so many issues amongst themselves, they're too busy fighting each other over everything to even appear to get behind one candidate or even basic philosophical beliefs. If they put up even a slightly moderate Republican candidate, he/she will be torn apart by the tea party folks, the religious extremists, the anti immigration die-hards...some part of the herd is constantly tearing apart the other.
Jerry Brown has been...interesting this go around. On the one hand, fucker raised taxes A LOT and on the other hand, now his party is pissed with him for NOT reversing some spending cuts that helped the poor etc. He's getting pushed to spend all that money as opposed to maintaining a rainy day fund. Also, some of those tax increases are set to expire in 2018 (I believe). IIRC, he wants to let them expire (good) while the far left, of course, is already saying they should be extended.

They're ALL fucked up but the most fucked up part of it all is campaign spending, PACS and Super PACs. It's a completely corrupt system.






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(01-31-2015 07:49 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:  BlueBerryHill, I applaud your essay and find it very pertinent.

Well, thank you Zero, I appreciate your comment.





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(01-31-2015 07:25 PM)Duchess Wrote:  
(01-31-2015 06:45 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:  I went into Dept store to buy a gallon of paint to paint interior of my home. Clerk asked me for my ID which I provided. Then he asked for my place of employment. I had just resigned from job with Gov't to go back to college full time. I took out student loans, and cashed all the money I had in bonds, to finance this. When I told him I wasn't employed but was a student (I was 39 at the time),he had such a shocked look on his face so he asked about my husband's job. Told him I was not married so he wasn't going to cash my check for $23.00. I then asked him to call my bank to verify that I had that money in bank (other customers were now in line observing all of this), He proceeded to call bank and verified that I had the money.


My boss has told me a lot about that period of time. She's got a shit ton of stories about what it was like for her being a very young woman and trying to start a business. It was back then that she started going by her initials. She couldn't even get a foot in the door after her given name was seen, bankers & other associated people wouldn't give her the time of day when they saw she was a female. I work in a mainly male dominated field and there is still some of that around but it is nothing like what it used to be, not even close.

I totally understand. To this day, I don't know why had these feelings of oppression that sprouted when I was only 17. I remember, my mother would have dinner on table at exactly 6:00 P.M. and God forbid, if she was late getting home from her bridge club....I observed the holidays where all the women slaved and cooked while the guys chilled watching sports. In addition to TV, my dad would have 2 or 3 radios going to listen/watch to more than one game....It wasn't some earth shattering experience, I just didn't like the role of the women in that era... ..well, my parents rarely talked to each other, but I thought that was normal..hehe I do have some other experiences of working in a male dominated work environment, but will save that for another day. You have to admire someone like your Boss who made it in spite of her circumstances. I can remember when people, especially women, didn't trust a woman doctor...In my day, when a woman graduated from school, she became either a Nurse or a Teacher. Baby, we have come a long way, but we still need to raise income of Nurses and Teachers. They are still underpaid, because in the beginning, these positions were typically held by women so pay scale didn't rise along with "equal pay" concept...





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