ANOTHER SCHOOL/PUBLIC SHOOTING

[HairOfTheDog]

Many situations have been diffused by guards and armed citizens I imagine it would be tough to say what may have or could have happened if they were not stopped. Here is a link to a gun zealot web site.

Nobody doubts that better security can and has prevented or minimized shooting deaths. Nobody that I've seen anyway.

But, that's just one of many things that can and should be done, in my opinion.

And, while armed security and armed citizens might be a deterrent to some criminals, my point was that there's no indication it would deter mass shooters focused on a specific target.

Past mass shooters tell us that they'll make attempts regardless of whether the target location is a gun-free zone or not, and sometimes they'll succeed. As MS has pointed out a couple of times, the element of surprise is a huge benefit for the shooter, even with solid security in place.