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(04-24-2014 04:32 PM)Maggot Wrote:  All colored people are not bad its just the ghetto trash that give them all a bad name.

The same could be said for white people.

The only thing I find racist is when people talk about other races (you) as if theirs is so great. It's not, everyone is fucked up. I can't count how many piece of shit white people I've come across in my life.





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A persons skin color is not the first thing I see, unless they're albino then I get a bit weirded out. Pink eye aint normal.






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I never lived around black people until I moved here. There are none where I come from and I never saw an adult black until I went to college. White people have their own niggers - white trash.

Before Mock I had only used the N word once and my mother grounded me.

I have a lot to say about that dreadful word not the least of which is being told I can't say it but a black person can. Fuck you.






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I say the word nigger when it's appropriate. Like in THE BEATING OF STEVEN UTASH thread.





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Those people deserved to be called that. That's exactly what they are.






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(04-24-2014 04:52 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:  My adopted sister is from Lesotho SA and it REALLY pisses her off when black folks call themselves "African American." I tend to agree with her.

Now that's a rather niggardly attitude towards our colored's "self-expression".

I guess you can take the Merc out of SA, but you can't take the apartheid outta the Merc.





04-25-2014 11:37 AM
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(04-24-2014 03:59 PM)Maggot Wrote:  “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to work. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as workers and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”


The media is what makes it racist, they tell you how to think. But a person that speaks the truth in their way is going to be attacked. The media controls the mindset in many people. Watch there will be more dirt dug up on this guy from now on as the PC Police flock to the front of the line.

Well, the only reason what this guy Bundy said is news is because the extreme right media (hi, Hannity) positioned him as a kind of folk hero for refusing to pay the $1.50 per head (IIRC) that every other rancher pays to have cattle grazing on federal/subsidized land.

IMO, it's not the media that's exclusively making Bundy look racist -- I watched/heard him deliver his words myself and can see how in the eyes of many he did a damned good job of that all by his lonesome. I do think that some of the headlines and analysis surrounding "his truth" (not the same as mine) -- which I believe he has a right to express as much as others have a right to express their opinions that he's a racist -- have sensationalized the story. But, that's not surprising -- the media cuts both ways.

Anyway, I don't know or care if Bundy is a racist. Either way, he's not a hero or a patriot to me. I do believe he's ignorant for opening his big fat mouth and generalizing about negros being better off as slaves back in the day than criminals and subsidy recipients when he is, in fact, taking advantage of subsidies and has resorted to armed criminal action in the process.

To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Bundy's never been a slave or a negro. But, he's certainly a hypocrite in my eyes.





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The black panthers are racist also, and yes some people are better off keeping their mouths shut. He certainly didn't sugar coat his ideals at all. Being able to say what you think in todays world is a challenge.






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(04-25-2014 01:58 PM)Maggot Wrote:  The black panthers are racist also, and yes some people are better off keeping their mouths shut. He certainly didn't sugar coat his ideals at all. Being able to say what you think in todays world is a challenge.

I don't have a problem with him saying what he wants and the media covering it -- don't have a problem with the Black Panthers opening their big fat mouths either. I read/listen to it and judge it on its content, doing my best to take the media spin out of it.

Like I said, I don't know Bundy and don't know if he's a racist or just somehow believes he knows what it felt like to be a slave and knows how it feels to be a negro. I don't really care either way.

But, knowing what I do about his illegal -- media/politician-dubbed 'patriotic'--stand-offs with the government and what that entails, I feel strongly that the man is ignorant when it comes to his own hypocrisy and don't think he's an innocent victim of the media. It's JMO.





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I don't know if Mr. Bundy is a racist as much as he is one of those persons of the older generation who have never wanted changes. He along with some of his cronies would like to go back to 1862, bring back slavery, whip out the guns, keep the Feds off your property, etc etc, just another old coot who hates the Government....I think as soon as some of these old farts die off, it will be a better place. My granddaughter goes to junior high school where approximately one-half of the population is other than Caucasian. She has friends of several races and doesn't care about race, which is how it should be, in my opinion. Diverse population as town is located next to military base.





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A new statement from the racist pig.

What follows is a press statement of Cliven Bundy sent to The New American by his wife, Carol Bundy, moments ago:

We are trading one form of slavery for another.

What I am saying is that all we Americans are trading one form of slavery for another. All of us are in some measure slaves of the federal government. Through their oppressive tactics of telling the ranchers how many cows they can have on their land, and making that number too low to support a ranch, the BLM has driven every rancher in Clark County off the land, except me. The IRS keeps the people of America in fear, and makes us all work about a third or a half of the year before we have earned enough to pay their taxes. This is nothing but slavery from January through May. The NSA spies on us and collects our private phone calls and emails. And the government dole which many people in America are on, and have been for much of their lives, is dehumanizing and degrading. It takes away incentive to work and self respect. Eventually a person on the dole becomes a ward of the government, because his only source of income is a dole from the government. Once the government has you in that position, you are its slave.

I am trying to keep Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream alive. He was praying for the day when he and his people would be free, and he could say I'm free, free at last, thank God I'm free at last! But all of us here [in] America, no matter our race, are having our freedom eroded and destroyed by the federal government because of its heavy handed tactics. The BLM, the IRS, the NSA — all of the federal agencies are destroying our freedom. I am standing up against their bad and unconstitutional laws, just like Rosa Parks did when she refused to sit in the back of the bus. She started a revolution in America, the civil rights movement, which freed the black people from much of the oppression they were suffering. I'm saying Martin Luther King's dream was not that Rosa could take her rightful seat in the front of the bus, but his dream was that she could take any seat on the bus and I would be honored to sit beside her. I am doing the same thing Rosa Parks did — I am standing up against bad laws which dehumanize us and destroy our freedom. Just like the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord, we are saying no to an oppressive government which considers us to be slaves rather than free men.

I invite all people in America to join in our peaceful revolution to regain our freedom. That is how America was started, and we need to keep that tradition alive.

Cliven D. Bundy






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Well, there it is.

Cliven's invoked all the typical and skewed (IMO) comparisons, claims, and rationalizations as other disgruntled citizens who refuse to acknowledge the US government -- with a slant to try to stave off the denouncements of his "racism" -- two birds, one stone, and a whole lotta predictable oft-spewed rhetoric.

So now he fancies himself a slave and he's suffering discrimination comparable to that of Rosa Parks. He's a victim. But that's not all, folks... he's also a leader working towards emancipation for all; carrying the torch for Martin Luther King and telling me that I, HOTD, am also a slave and that I should share his views and join his revolution. Mighty white of you there, Cliven, but I'm gonna take a pass.

If he's got a single conservative pundit or tea-party politician still hailing or supporting him after that press-release, I'll be surprised.

Cliven doesn't wanna pay the same taxes as everyone else in his area/industry and thinks it's not fair that the rules changed after he'd already started grazing on that land.

Welcome to my world, Cliven. The taxes and regulations in my neck of the woods, not to mention the labor laws, keep increasing too. It hurts my bottom line and I don't like it. But, it's the same for everyone in the industry in this area and sometimes our protests are heard and we affect votes in our favor. When things don't go my/our way, I choose not to go on the rogue and stop paying my taxes, form an armed militia, and denounce the US government. And, I certainly don't liken myself to a slave who's been stripped of personal freedoms and choices because that's delusional and it's a little, well, batshit.

In my eyes, racist or not, he's just a criminal tax evader with delusions of grandeur. According to him, he's a victim of the American government and a savior of the American people. In the eyes of other disgruntleds, he may still be a hero.

Ah well, different views and different strokes...good thing we're not REALLY like those fortunate slaves of old and Cliven and the rest of us all have the freedom to speak our minds and express our dissenting opinions.





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Profit margins are almost at the point of not being worth the effort. Competition is such that its almost illegal to make a decent profit. It will get worse. Rules and regs are always going to be there but its getting almost impossible to etch a living in the U.S.A. today. His frustration is not his own.






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Yeah, he's definitely far from alone in his frustration over taxes and regulation -- I'm with him on that, Maggot.

I just don't consider my frustration to be analogous with the plight of slaves who were deemed "property" of others and had no rights to vote, change paths, air their complaints...some of whom were beaten, bought, sold and had their families ripped away from them.

Cliven has exercised his freedom of speech like nobody's business -- hosting press conferences to gain exposure for his cause. He's also exercised his freedom of assembly, invoked his right to bear arms, taken advantage of this country's freedom of the press, exercises his freedom of religion as the patriarch of a huge Mormon clan, and he has the freedom to change paths. His fight to avoid paying taxes to the federal government is therefore nothing like the black slaves' fight for personal freedom back in the day, IMO.

Anyway, I think Blueberryhill was probably pretty accurate in her assessment of Cliven Bundy. I hope his dispute with the government ends (or carries on) peacefully, with no bloodshed. The Feds definitely don't want another Ruby Ridge or Waco scenario, that's why IMO they backed off from taking his cattle as a result of the millions he owes the BLM in back taxes. But, I don't think they're gonna just let him keep using federal land without paying his share and they'll make another attempt.





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