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Is this racist?
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RE: Is this racist?

I don't know if Mr. Bundy is a racist, but it all goes down to how much understanding we give to what someone says, it's all about words, maybe some use wrong the words and then are labeled as such, I do know though that for some things to change, first people must change their way of approaching their own self, it's all about ego..being selfish and having the need to leave the traces of your existence, some do it through power and fear, others through intelligence only, and few do it silently but loud enough to get the point through, and those few are the one's that matter, cause they change the route of the whole thinking, on the Planet Earth's brainy with choices species aka humans...lol.





04-29-2014 04:02 AM
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Ok, update again, I just read the above, it doesn't make much sense..but then again, am just a cat, what did you expect from a meow...lol.





04-29-2014 09:05 AM
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Is this racist?

This float -- featuring a dummy of a sickly looking senior standing next to his walker, outside an outhouse labeled as "Obama Presidential Library" -- was part of a July 4th parade in Nebraska.

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It's stirred internet debate as some people are up in arms about it and calling it racist. I don't understand that in this case. I see it as political satire -- like the floatist expressing his views that Obama's health policies are driving the country into the shitter.

I wonder if the people who consider the Obama outhouse float racist also consider this float racist? It's from an Obama presidential rally and features George W. Bush being guillotined. That's his head in the basket.

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I don't see the Bush float as racist either -- again, just political satire -- albeit more extreme, in my opinion.

If Hillary Clinton becomes the next US President, will political satire against her be automatically labeled misogynistic?





07-07-2014 08:52 AM
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Neither one are racist in my view, same as you. I think that the Pro Obama crowd will throw the race cars any time anyone has something negative to say about our fearless leader





07-07-2014 09:04 AM
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I liked the bit where the racist douchebag said he was “trying to keep Martin Luther Kings dream alive”.

Of course he is.






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07-07-2014 02:42 PM
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A billboard that is currently on the I-20 in Alabama.. hah





07-31-2014 07:27 PM
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Remember Cliven Bundy from the OP?

He's the millionaire moron rancher who was initially hailed as a "hero" by extreme right wing individuals, groups, and media. The one who formed an armed militia to stop the Feds taking his cattle after he refused (for 20 years) to pay the same $1.50 per head grazing fee all other ranchers on government land pay? The tax-evading rancher who fell out of favor with talking heads when he told the press how negros were better off as slaves than living on government subsidies, all whilst hypocritically leading a self-declared 'revolution' so he could profit off government land without paying? The 'patriot' whose militia posse included two thugs who left the Bundy compound and went on to shoot and kill two police officers and a woman before killing themselves in their "don't tread on me" final act?

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Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The old moron's son, ^ Ammon Bundy, is currently leading an armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters in Oregon. He's formed a militia and beckoned via Facebook: ALL PATRIOTS ITS TIME TO STAND UP NOT STAND DOWN!!! WE NEED YOUR HELP!!! COME PREPARED", and has illegally taken over the property "indefnitely" to show solidarity for two members of the Hammond family. Cliven Bundy said he's not involved in this action.

The Hammond men were sentenced to 4 years prison time for arson -- Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to peacefully report to prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge. Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the a fire the federal land in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires.

The Hammonds participated in a peaceful protest yesterday, but stated publicly that they don't welcome the illegal occupation of the federal building by Bundy and his posse.

So, another rich mooching Bundy leading an armed anti-government militia stand-off with Feds, probably figuring that the Feds again won't respond to them as they would other types of gangs who commit criminal acts and point loaded weapons at law enforcement officers. Yee-haw.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-ranch...ccupation/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oreg...58f65be382





01-03-2016 12:28 PM
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Yet the EPA tossed heavy metals into a river and nobody was reprimanded or held accountable. Burning off a field should not be labeled arson. The fire reached a bit of federal land but it was a controlled fire. Getting thrown in jail for it is overreach. Maybe Obama should have another "beer" summit at the white house to calm things down. Remember the government uses the peoples monies to finance lawyers that have immeasurable amounts of dough. people have no way of getting the money to defend themselves. What is right becomes wrong in the beaorocracy. Then it comes to this. I'm reminded of the treaties that were broken with the American Indians when I see this stuff.






01-03-2016 01:37 PM
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For me it's not what he did in regards to the fire, it's the way people put themselves above the law.






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It looks like the land that was burned was once leased to them at one point. The land burned was government land that was reclaimed by the government. The prosecutor claimed that the fire was set to cover up poaching but that could have been created without evidence.






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It sounds like you're saying...If a group with whom you identify disagrees with the law, breaks it by destroying government property, has their day in court, is found guilty and is sentenced.........it's okay for armed protesters to illegally invade government property, and challenge law enforcement to a stand-off because it's an appropriate response to perceived overreach?

But, if government-employed law enforcement officers kill an adult or child and an unarmed group with whom you don't identify protests what they see as fatal overreach and demands their day in court, you consider that bullshit to be condemned. AND, if a subgroup of that group of protesters invades private or government owned property, they are thugs who deserve to be physically removed and incarcerated by the government because it's not an appropriate response to perceived overreach?

Am I understanding you correctly, Maggot?





01-03-2016 02:20 PM
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(01-03-2016 02:20 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  It sounds like you're saying...If a group with whom you identify disagrees with the law, breaks it by destroying government property, has their day in court, is found guilty and is sentenced.........it's okay for armed protesters to illegally invade government property, and challenge law enforcement to a stand-off because it's an appropriate response to perceived overreach?

But, if government-employed law enforcement officers kill an adult or child and an unarmed group with whom you don't identify protests what they see as fatal overreach and demand their day in court, you consider that bullshit to be condemned. AND, if a subgroup of that group of protesters invades private or government owned property, they are thugs who deserve to be physically removed and incarcerated by the government because it's not an appropriate response to perceived overreach?

Am I understanding you correctly, Maggot?



Just get over it. White people can be armed and not perceived as dangerous. They can even make violent threats and have snipers aiming at federal agents and they are not perceived as dangerous. Just a bunch of wacko white guys with constitutional rights. That is how whiteness works.





01-03-2016 02:27 PM
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(01-03-2016 02:20 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  It sounds like you're saying...If a group with whom you identify disagrees with the law, breaks it by destroying government property, has their day in court, is found guilty and is sentenced.........it's okay for armed protesters to illegally invade government property, and challenge law enforcement to a stand-off because it's an appropriate response to perceived overreach?

But, if government-employed law enforcement officers kill an adult or child and an unarmed group with whom you don't identify protests what they see as fatal overreach and demand their day in court, you consider that bullshit to be condemned. AND, if a subgroup of that group of protesters invades private or government owned property, they are thugs who deserve to be physically removed and incarcerated by the government because it's not an appropriate response to perceived overreach?

Am I understanding you correctly, Maggot?

I believe they will be removed the way they are going about their protest is just as wrong as the occupy movement or the BLM movement is. Standing in a road and blocking traffic is just as wrong as occupying a far out wilderness station.
You seem to be saying its OK for a government agency to despoil a river yet its OK to throw people in jail for improving their livelihood.

Adub............this has nothing to do with race and you know it.






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It doesn't seem like that's what I was saying, Maggot, because I didnt consider the despoiled river reference relevant and thus didn't address it at all.

It would be relevant if armed environmentalists illegally occupied the EPA building or forced an armed stand-off at the despoiled river. That would be comparable to the Bundy bullshit going down now in Oregon and comparable to the looting of private or government property. All of it is criminal activity. Period.

Invoking first amendment rights to protest without taking criminal action is always cool by me, however, whether I agree with the cause or not.





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