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RETURN TO SENDER/ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
(06-20-2018, 10:15 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 09:16 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:
(06-18-2018, 11:43 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: So, if you guys like and support the new zero-tolerance / family-separation policy.............that's your prerogative.

And, you can just own it.

There's no need to falsely claim the new policy is a historical one, nor to ignorantly claim that being removed from their parents and placed in a detention facility is somehow an upgrade for these kids.
Then please explain how kids were being held in cages back in 2014? Many were moved to Nogales by bus. When they arrived in Nogales, they were in a holding facility as well. How could that have possibly happened if this was not the policy in 2014 HoTD? Inquiring minds want to know.

I never said kids (and adults, for that matter) weren't placed in cages back in 2014 at the peak of the border crisis. And, I posted about kids being bused to holding facilities when it happened in 2014 and referenced it here again in recent days.

So, there's nothing for me to explain to you on those fronts -- neither of those facts has been contested nor are they relevant to the new Trump policy which results in children being taken from their parent(s) at the border.

But, since you asked, I'll explain for you once again how the new policy that we were discussing is different from the policy under previous administrations.

The kids that were put in cages alone and/or bused to holding facilities alone in 2014 had crossed the border alone; they were thus unaccompanied minors when they entered the U.S. They were not accompanied minors who were taken from their parents at the border. Taking children from their parent(s) at the border by default is an outcome of the new 2018 Trump/Sessions Zero-Tolerance policy -- that's the new policy outcome which nearly all Republican politicians and Democrat politicians are presently trying to have reversed.

Anyway, I meant what I said. There are only two options: (1) you and Maggot are either incapable of basic comprehension, even with repetition, or (2) you were both intentionally lying when you claimed that the new policy has been in effect under previous administrations. I don't care which option applies. Your claims are false and I've already posted the factual truth for you in more depth upthread.

If you still can't grasp the simple concept or just enjoy posting ignorant and/or dishonest misinformation and deflection..........that's up to you Gunnar.
The family separations were happening then as they are now and with very good reason. You don't want children locked up with adults. YOU need to accept that fact. And that is EXACTLY what all of the hullabaloo is about right now. You can do your usual "everybody is ignorant but me" dance all you want HoTD, it isn't going to change that fact. And you're wrong BTW, a % of those children in 2014 crossed alone. Not all of them. Look it up. Educate yourself.
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RETURN TO SENDER/ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION - by Duchess - 07-02-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by ramseycat - 07-02-2014, 05:36 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by crash - 07-02-2014, 05:55 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-02-2014, 07:14 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by crash - 07-02-2014, 07:44 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-02-2014, 08:22 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by aussiefriend - 07-02-2014, 09:13 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by crash - 07-03-2014, 07:08 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by aussiefriend - 07-03-2014, 08:48 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-03-2014, 11:56 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-09-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-02-2014, 07:28 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by cannongal - 07-03-2014, 10:24 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-02-2014, 07:32 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-02-2014, 07:46 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Tammy75 - 07-02-2014, 09:01 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-02-2014, 09:07 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Maggot - 07-02-2014, 10:48 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-03-2014, 11:08 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-11-2014, 02:53 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-11-2014, 03:15 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-03-2014, 11:27 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-03-2014, 12:23 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-03-2014, 12:55 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-03-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by BlueTiki - 07-07-2014, 07:37 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-03-2014, 01:26 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Cynical Ninja - 07-06-2014, 12:47 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-07-2014, 04:28 AM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by FAHQTOO - 07-07-2014, 06:16 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-08-2014, 08:36 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Maggot - 07-08-2014, 09:52 AM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by aussiefriend - 07-08-2014, 10:33 PM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Cynical Ninja - 07-06-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by aussiefriend - 07-06-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-07-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 06:55 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Tammy75 - 07-07-2014, 07:00 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-07-2014, 07:11 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-07-2014, 07:01 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 07:30 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-07-2014, 07:34 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 07:36 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-07-2014, 07:37 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 07:56 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-07-2014, 08:32 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 08:42 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-08-2014, 05:01 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-08-2014, 01:59 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Maggot - 07-07-2014, 08:46 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-07-2014, 08:57 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 08:58 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-07-2014, 09:05 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Maggot - 07-07-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-07-2014, 09:13 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-07-2014, 09:25 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-08-2014, 10:45 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by sally - 07-08-2014, 11:07 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-08-2014, 12:00 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Maggot - 07-08-2014, 12:32 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-08-2014, 12:56 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-08-2014, 02:06 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-08-2014, 02:46 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Duchess - 07-08-2014, 02:50 PM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-08-2014, 04:51 PM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-08-2014, 05:56 PM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-08-2014, 09:55 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Blindgreed1 - 07-09-2014, 01:06 PM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 07-10-2014, 08:16 AM
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RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 02-22-2015, 12:05 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by HairOfTheDog - 02-22-2015, 12:17 PM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER - by Maggot - 02-23-2015, 09:12 AM
RE: RETURN TO SENDER/ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION - by Blindgreed1 - 06-20-2018, 11:23 AM