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I believe that's how you really think and it doesn't surprise me.

And, I'm glad that sometimes you and others post what they really think here.

Bullshit is cheap and plentiful, why add to the existing mountain of manure?





06-22-2015 10:01 PM
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I almost always post my true feelings HotD. I would hate there come a day when I met up with someone I talk to on line and have them think, WOW they are nothing like they portrait themselves on line. Sometimes I will joke around but I think people can tell when that happens. Or at least I hope they can.





06-22-2015 10:06 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know when you want something that you put out there to be taken seriously, as opposed to intentionally going for a laugh (even when you don't post, "Hahahahaha" after the latter). Awink





06-22-2015 10:28 PM
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06-22-2015 10:32 PM
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(06-22-2015 09:56 PM)F.U. Dont ask again Wrote:  Actually I thought about that post before I made it and thought, you are really setting yourself up here bud. I said WTH and posted it anyway.

I thought the same thing too. And sure, it's an easy enough post to attack on the surface.

I guess I know you (For want of a better turn of phrase; how do we aver really 'know' anyone online?) well enough to understand what you're getting at. Do I think you're an out and out black hating racist who thinks 'Fuck those black assholes'? Nope, not at all. Do I think you'd be prejudiced against black people? Probably not. I imagine you'd probably even have the odd black friend or three. Are you discriminatory against what you think assholes? Fuck yes, and I guess who isn't.

So I kinda see your point and in a sense I tend to agree with it. It has become trendy to beckon to minority groups. I don't see this particular case in SC fitting into that, and I tend to agree with HotD, but in this country at least the civil libertarians have had a lot of wins in modern times, a lot of them justified and now they're beginning to run away with themselves.


'White Privilege' is a term that's really growing legs over here at the moment. To the point where some of the extremists are wanting anyone born white and male to instantly feel bad about it and bow at the feet of anyone who wasn't. Fuck that. I was born white and male and dirt poor. I had the same opportunities as the other green, red, blue, yellow and purple poor kids around me. Some of the black kids I grew up with are way more successful than I am. Why? Because they didn't wait for luck or good things to happen and expect things to be entitled to them. They went and worked their asses off and got where they are today.

Anyway, rant over, but I also appreciate your honesty, FU. We will never agree on everything, but in today's world, it's good to see someone with enough ticker to say their opinion out loud, even if it's not popular. I guess that's why I keep coming back here; most people do.





06-22-2015 10:34 PM
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(06-22-2015 09:47 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  You fail to consider that many non-blacks also wish to see the Confederate flag displayed in a historical/personal context, rather than flying over the state capitol today.

Wait, that flag hasn't been flying over the capital for 15 years in South Carolina.

I thought it was flying at a memorial on the capital grounds, and that is what is coming down now.

Or are we talking about something else and I didn't read it right?





06-22-2015 10:39 PM
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For only knowing me online, in this case you have me pegged crash.





06-22-2015 10:41 PM
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I often laugh more at what's meant to be taken seriously than what's meant to garner a laugh.

Either way, I'll take it.

There aren't too many things I rank ahead of laughter.





06-22-2015 10:45 PM
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(06-22-2015 10:39 PM)Jimbone Wrote:  
(06-22-2015 09:47 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  You fail to consider that many non-blacks also wish to see the Confederate flag displayed in a historical/personal context, rather than flying over the state capitol today.

Wait, that flag hasn't been flying over the capital for 15 years in South Carolina.

I thought it was flying at a memorial on the capital grounds, and that is what is coming down now.

Or are we talking about something else and I didn't read it right?

What's being advocated by Governor Haley and other state politicians is that it's time to stop flying the Confederate flag over capitol grounds altogether.

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06-22-2015 10:53 PM
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Ok, that's what I thought.

Stories everywhere tonight on this... calls for Mississippi to remove it from their flag... stores are pulling it from sale... questions being asked about streets named for Confederate officers.

Shit gets real in a hurry once the first domino falls.





06-22-2015 11:05 PM
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(06-22-2015 10:34 PM)crash Wrote:  Anyway, rant over, but I also appreciate your honesty, FU. We will never agree on everything, but in today's world, it's good to see someone with enough ticker to say their opinion out loud, even if it's not popular. I guess that's why I keep coming back here; most people do.

That sounded much more like a testimonial than a rant, crash.

What were you intending to rant about? Extremists who don't think white privilege is a fallacy in Australia?

I don't know enough about it to have an opinion, I'm just asking for clarity's sake.





06-22-2015 11:14 PM
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Yeah.. sorry, didn't really break into full on rant mode. I probably should have said 'babble over' I was wandering that far off my point.





06-22-2015 11:30 PM
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Tease. A proper rant is always a fun read. Smiley_emoticons_smile

Anyway, you did get me curious about the perception and/or reality of white privilege in Australia.

This is a good short piece on the subject; interesting to see something subjective quantified: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/arch...ed/386102/





06-22-2015 11:47 PM
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It is a good piece. I wasn't trying to deny the existence of white privilege. I know it exists. I was having a semi-rant at some of the activists that are pushing the barrow for it over here. I know they have a cause, I know what it is. I understand their message and I hope it does raise awareness and bring about change. What I don't understand is when they push their message to the point that they are trying to victimise their intended audience in a similar way that they feel the people they are protesting for have been.





06-23-2015 12:06 AM
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