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2 YR OLD DEORR KUNZ JR, MISSING FROM IDAHO CAMPGROUND
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Horrible Horrible Horrible

I don't know what to think. I know people deal with stress in a variety of ways. I'm pretty sure I'd be wailin' like a fishwife or in a drugged stupor. I can't even really get my mind to imagine how godawful it would be to have your child missing.






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I'm always suspicious of the parents when they're so calm because I know I'd be a mess and barely able to talk. But with the grandpa and friend being in the picture it makes it harder to believe that they did something to him. Unless they're all just crazy fucks covering it up which could be possible I guess.





07-16-2015 03:05 PM
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The father is hiding something. He appeared in the store with a "filthy (neglect?), bawling, little boy......according to the clerk.....That is red flag IMO.





07-16-2015 05:45 PM
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Maybe an Eagle swooped down and snatched him.






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What Duch said, drugged stupor, drug me up and wake me up when it's all over.





07-16-2015 07:27 PM
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(07-16-2015 06:11 AM)thekid65 Wrote:  When I'm camping around here, I'll have my dog with me. I never let him out of my sight. A 2 year old? By a running creek? How irresponsible can someone be? Not so sure I'm buying the parents story here.

Yeah I smell fish. Nobody just leaves a toddler alone in a campsite.






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(07-16-2015 12:00 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  It could be the parents.

One thing that came up in an interview with the dad in this case bothered me a little. After Deorr was reported missing, a clerk at the store near the campsite called police and told them that she saw a man with a filthy, bawling blond boy who came to the store in a black truck that day and got candy for the boy.

The dad, Deorr Kunz Sr., told a reporter that it was him and Deorr Jr., but that they'd gone to the store hours before the boy went missing and the clerk was way off on the timing.

Another thing that's a little odd is that on the 911 call, the boy's mom Jessica Mitchell said that she, her husband, and her grandfather (who the parents say they presumed was watching Deorr Jr. while they went to check out the creek for about 10 minutes, only about 50 yards away) searched for Deorr for about an hour before calling 911. In an interview, the parents indicated they'd searched for about 20 minutes before making that call.

I am thinking the discrepancy in time is from when anyone last saw the little guy to when 911 was called. It had been about an hour. Not a big a aha gotcha moment ...

I haven't read the comment from the store clerk, but I have seen lots of family photos where Deorr is crying. And everyone else is smiling for the camera. The mom has a couple of older kids from a different man.





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(07-16-2015 08:13 PM)Donovan Wrote:  
(07-16-2015 06:11 AM)thekid65 Wrote:  When I'm camping around here, I'll have my dog with me. I never let him out of my sight. A 2 year old? By a running creek? How irresponsible can someone be? Not so sure I'm buying the parents story here.

Yeah I smell fish. Nobody just leaves a toddler alone in a campsite.

1. To say that any place in the wilderness is small-is dumb. WTF.
2. People laugh when I tell them I was on a harness until a certain age-this is why.
3. It looks like she is way more upset than he is. I hate cases like this. Its like the Sky Metawala mom leaving her son in a fucking car. Give me a break.





07-16-2015 10:19 PM
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(07-16-2015 09:12 PM)Adub Wrote:  I am thinking the discrepancy in time is from when anyone last saw the little guy to when 911 was called. It had been about an hour. Not a big a aha gotcha moment ...

Yeah, it might not mean anything.

The parents were at the campsite. Little Deorr was playing with gramps near the campire and mom and dad figured he would be good with gramps for a few minutes and it was near his nap time anyway. So, they decided to go a very short distance for a very short time to explore (I assume they wanted alone time and kind of sneaked off, but that's just my assumption). They say they were gone for 10 to 15 minutes. They say they searched for 20 minutes after returning to the campsite to find Deorr missing and gramps clueless, and then immediately called 911. That's according to the interview posted upthread.

So, according to the interview, mom called 911 between 30 and 35 minutes from the last time that she and Deorr Sr. personally saw little Deorr.

But, in the 911 call (transcript below), mom Jessica Mitchell says that little Deorr has been missing for about an hour.

911 OPERATOR: What`s the address of your emergency?

JESSICA MITCHELL, MOTHER: I`m actually camping in Leadore, just outside of Leadore. My 2-year-old son -- we can`t find him.

911 OPERATOR: How long has he been missing?

MITCHELL: About an hour.

911 OPERATOR: An hour?

MITCHELL: Yes.

911 OPERATOR: Are you by water?

MITCHELL: Yes.

911 OPERATOR: Do you know which campground you`re in?

MITCHELL: It`s Stone Reservoir, Timber Creek.

911 OPERATOR: Stone Reservoir?

MITCHELL: Yes, or Timber Creek.

911 OPERATOR: Hold on. We need search and rescue. Jessica? Jessica?

MITCHELL: Yes?

[20:05:00]911 OPERATOR: What`s your son`s name?

MITCHELL: Deorr.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What was he wearing?

MITCHELL: He was wearing cowboy boots, a blue pair of, like, pajama pants, and a camo jacket. And he`s got shaggy blond hair.

911 OPERATOR: Is your husband calling, too?

MITCHELL: (INAUDIBLE) like, all down where we`re camping at, and we can`t find him at all.

911 OPERATOR: OK. We need you to stay within cell service. We have people going on the way.

MITCHELL: Thank you.


So, either mom and dad were gone longer than 10 - 15 minutes. Or, they hadn't actually seen Deorr for nearly a half an hour prior to leaving the campsite to explore (and neither had gramps). Or, mom told the 911 operator that little Deorr was missing for twice as long as he really was, for some reason. Or, mom simply misspoke to either the 911 operator or to the reporter. Or...

It's just curious to me, is all.





07-17-2015 11:37 AM
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(07-16-2015 09:12 PM)Adub Wrote:  I haven't read the comment from the store clerk, but I have seen lots of family photos where Deorr is crying. And everyone else is smiling for the camera. The mom has a couple of older kids from a different man.

I haven't seen a first-hand account from the store clerk either. The description and info about the store clerk came from what dad Deorr Kunz Sr. told the interviewer in the posted interview.

I tried to catch coverage of the case on Nancy Grace last night but kept getting interrupted. It was mentioned that the friend of gramps (who's in his 70s and has some health issues) was a male and not someone well-known to the family. I'm waiting for the transcript to be published to see if any more details about him were given.

Have you come across anything about gramps or gramps' friend Adub?





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Here's the clip about Deorr's case from the Nancy Grace show last night.

The walk-through of the actual campsite is very helpful; the family was camped right up against an embankment that led down to the creek.





I hadn't heard about little Deorr having a distinctive Hot Wheels truck in his pocket before. Searchers have not found that truck, nor his cowboy boots or any articles of little Deorr's clothing.

At the end of the segment, the reporter notes that little Deorr's parents had never met gramps' friend before the camping trip.

Also, LE has publicly stated that the parents are fully cooperating, they're not suspects, they volunteered lie-detectors and DNA, and they're camping nearby to be close to the search.





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(07-16-2015 06:01 PM)Maggot Wrote:  Maybe an Eagle swooped down and snatched him.
Or maybe he was snatched up by a Patriot?





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(07-17-2015 11:39 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  
(07-16-2015 09:12 PM)Adub Wrote:  I haven't read the comment from the store clerk, but I have seen lots of family photos where Deorr is crying. And everyone else is smiling for the camera. The mom has a couple of older kids from a different man.

I tried to catch coverage of the case on Nancy Grace last night but kept getting interrupted. It was mentioned that the friend of gramps (who's in his 70s and has some health issues) was a male and not someone well-known to the family. I'm waiting for the transcript to be published to see if any more details about him were given.

Have you come across anything about gramps or gramps' friend Adub?

It would help to know if he was a Kunz or a Mitchell. But no, I haven't. I think this little guy wandered off. Nothing else to think.





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The discrepancy in time might have been to get the emergency personnel to respond quicker. Kind of like when we used to be told, "Just call 911 and say fire!"

So what is the deal with gramps and the other person? I will see if I can watch the videos tonight.





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