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I didn't know where to put this or even what to call it but I did want y'all to read about it, I'm interested in reading what you think about this.

There are a ton of tweets after the story. If you're concerned with clicking on my link, google the kid's name and the story should come right up.

A 14-year-old Muslim boy has been arrested in North Texas after a high school teacher decided that a homemade clock he brought to class could be a bomb.

Ahmed Mohamed, who enjoys tinkering with electronics, proudly took the clock to MacArthur High in Irving on Monday.

But one teacher raised concerns that it looked like a bomb, prompting the school principal and several police officers to question him, search his belongings and march him from the school in handcuffs.

Police don't believe the device is dangerous, but say it could be mistaken for a fake explosive.

Mohamed was suspended from school for three days, but he has not been charged.


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09-16-2015 01:31 PM
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.





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Would the teacher have expressed the same concern if the student were Christian? Or Jewish? Just asking.






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I remember when we brought teachers apples.






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It's not quite as inane as suspending little kids for making a gun with their fingers or out of a pop tart, but (if we're getting the full story), it ranks right up there.

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Ahmed ^ is into engineering and part of a robotics class. He brought the homemade clock to school; lots of kids brought their projects. The clock alarm went off in English class and the teacher called police because the device looked like it could be a bomb. That's my understanding.

Up to that point, I don't think there's a problem with the school erring on the side of extreme caution. And, if he somehow violated a formal school policy which calls for a three day suspension, it's kind of harsh, but I don't see his rights being violated there either.

What I don't understand is why the cops cuffed him, arrested him and considered charging him with bringing a "hoax bomb" to school when there was never any indication that was his intent.

(Police just announced they won't be filing charges.)





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(09-16-2015 01:48 PM)Maggot Wrote:  I remember when we brought teachers apples.


In today's world, an apple with a marble size C4 explosive could be in it, with the stem as the fuse! Sad, but true, they never know, it's a possible reality. hah

Anyway, it's good to be cautious, but after "they" found out what the whole issue was about, "they" grossly over reacted !!
Can a law suit (justified) be far behind?






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From what I read it was a project that he was asked to do in his engineering class. Apparently the the engineer teacher he showed it to first didn't think it was a bomb. So I don't see how he violated school policy.





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(09-16-2015 01:48 PM)Maggot Wrote:  I remember when we brought teachers apples.


Yeah but it's not an apple. It's a project he had been working on and brought to school to show his teacher. Is it unusual for a kid to want to do that?






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I don't think he should have been arrested but am kinda glad they checked it out. They could have called the parents and probably did. Sometimes these stories get blown out of proportion fairly fast.

Getting suspended for 3 days will be a badge of honor with the other kids I bet.






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Maybe the school should check their policies in that case. If they don't want kids making things that beep and tick maybe they shouldn't have a robotics class.





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This definitely got blown out of proportion, but I don't blame the school for being cautious about a suitcase like device with a digital counter (clock) on it. I think the kid could have been brown, purple, white, or rainbow colored and they would have acted the same.

From a police perspective, they were probably thinking it was likely nothing... but in this day and age what if it wasn't? What if the kid had put a propane tank somewhere, and was going to connect the suitcase clock to it later? Securing him and asking him questions doesn't seem overtly inappropriate to me.

The story surrounding it seems more of an overreaction than the actual event.





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I have big mixed feelings about this. I know that sorta thing
has got to be checked out in this day & age but I also think it's a damn shame that an obviously smart kid who appears to enjoy learning was put through this crap. What the hell is he suspended for is what I keep asking myself. I'm torn!






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(09-16-2015 02:55 PM)sally Wrote:  Maybe the school should check their policies in that case. If they don't want kids making things that beep and tick maybe they shouldn't have a robotics class.

I think the problem was showing it outside of the engineering lab because it could qualify as a "suspicious looking device" to a lay person. And, it did.

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Ahmed said he brought the clock, which he had fashioned with a digital face in an inexpensive box, to school on Monday to show to an engineering teacher, who said it was “nice” but then told him that he should not show the invention to other teachers.

But when it beeped during an English class, Ahmed revealed the device to his English teacher, according to an account in The Dallas Morning News. “She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said. Ahmed reportedly told her, "it doesn't look like a bomb to me, it looks like a clock."


He's 14. This part bothers me most: He said he was fingerprinted, and mug shots were taken at a juvenile detention center. He was not allowed to call his parents but was released when they came to get him.

Full story: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/17/us/tex....html?_r=0





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(09-16-2015 03:08 PM)Jimbone Wrote:  This definitely got blown out of proportion, but I don't blame the school for being cautious about a suitcase like device with a digital counter (clock) on it. I think the kid could have been brown, purple, white, or rainbow colored and they would have acted the same.

From a police perspective, they were probably thinking it was likely nothing... but in this day and age what if it wasn't? What if the kid had put a propane tank somewhere, and was going to connect the suitcase clock to it later? Securing him and asking him questions doesn't seem overtly inappropriate to me.

The story surrounding it seems more of an overreaction than the actual event.

I'm not afraid to profile and I would have isolated the child and called the parents in. Hell they could of just said "Kid........keep that outside for a sec. They were all chicken as far as I can see.






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