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SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SCALIA -- FOUND DEAD
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(02-14-2016 05:51 PM)QueenBee Wrote:  Marco Rubio has already said he will filibuster any nominee that Obama sets forth.


He's another stupid fucker. BlahBlahFuckinBlah, that's all I hear when he speaks. He sounds like a whiny little kid.






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(02-14-2016 05:51 PM)QueenBee Wrote:  Marco Rubio has already said he will filibuster any nominee that Obama sets forth. Now I am a Democrat, and will vote Democrat, but all the Republican are sure as hell THEY will win the job. Rubio said outright that HE knows HE will win.

Yeah, they were just as quick to dance on Scalia's grave to say Obama shouldn't select a replacement supreme court justice as Obama was to say he would. I think close to a year without a full court is/will be problematic. But it's all politics. The GOP hopes to hell they win this election and get the opportunity to fill that slot. That's ALL this is about.






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I've just been reading a little about Judge Scalia. One site says he was found dead in repose with a pillow over his head, another site said he was pronounced dead over the telephone and yet another states he had a brilliant mind and was often critical of civil rights.

I've enjoyed reading about the friendship he shared with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Whatta weird and wonderful relationship that was.






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(02-15-2016 08:10 AM)Duchess Wrote:  

I've just been reading a little about Judge Scalia. One site says he was found dead in repose with a pillow over his head, another site said he was pronounced dead over the telephone and yet another states he had a brilliant mind and was often critical of civil rights.

I've enjoyed reading about the friendship he shared with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Whatta weird and wonderful relationship that was.

I heard the telephone part too. My first thought was...who the fuck declares someone dead over the phone?





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(02-15-2016 10:33 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote:  My first thought was...who the fuck declares someone dead over the phone?


Bizarre, isn't it. I've never heard of such thing. You would think it would be standard procedure to at least see the body FFS. I read he was declared dead and there was found to be no reason for an autopsy, yet it was reported that he didn't have a heart attack, simply that his heart stopped beating. How do they know this?






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On thing I read, which I found interesting. They said a Priest came to perform Last Rites (consider it a last Confession) over his dead body. Now, I realize I have not been a Catholic in a while, but it was always my understanding they were done JUST before death..last confession, as it were, so you can die peacefully and without guilt or sin. ANy current Catholics out there? I know Google is my friend, but lets face it, it is late, I am stressed and do not feel like chatting with Google. So sue me.






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(02-15-2016 01:37 PM)Duchess Wrote:  
(02-15-2016 10:33 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote:  My first thought was...who the fuck declares someone dead over the phone?
Bizarre, isn't it. I've never heard of such thing. You would think it would be standard procedure to at least see the body FFS. I read he was declared dead and there was found to be no reason for an autopsy, yet it was reported that he didn't have a heart attack, simply that his heart stopped beating. How do they know this?

As I understand it, it's allowable to declare someone dead without seeing the body if all evidence points in the direction of natural causes; it sometimes happens in rural areas where it would take a justice of the peace some time to get to the location.

Scalia's family reportedly wanted his body removed from the rural hunting resort and returned to Washington asap. I don't blame them. So, the pronouncing judge called Scalia's doctor who confirmed that he had several chronic conditions, but was too weak for surgery. She also interviewed U.S. Marshals who'd arrived at the resort, by phone, and determined there was no sign of foul play. The family declined an autopsy.

I'm glad the news wasn't leaked and he was removed before a swarm of media arrived at the scene, though it did open the door for a lot of speculation.

I'm waiting for someone to suggest that a liberal gun-grabber sneaked into the resort and smothered staunch second amendment supporter Scalia, probably on orders from Barrack Obama or Hillary Clinton! Smiley_emoticons_wink

He riled people up in life, and he's riling people up in death. But, Scalia appears to have been a very loving and loved family man and friend. It's been interesting reading the tributes and stories from those closest to him. RIP.

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http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/texas-ra...ias-death/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...rgery.html





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(02-15-2016 08:26 PM)QueenBee Wrote:  On thing I read, which I found interesting. They said a Priest came to perform Last Rites (consider it a last Confession) over his dead body. Now, I realize I have not been a Catholic in a while, but it was always my understanding they were done JUST before death..last confession, as it were, so you can die peacefully and without guilt or sin. ANy current Catholics out there? I know Google is my friend, but lets face it, it is late, I am stressed and do not feel like chatting with Google. So sue me.


Last rites ARE for the living but it does raise some question on how someone near death could recite an Act of Contrition. Anyway, there is some thought, depending on who you talk to, that the soul lingers in the body until rigor mortis sets in so maybe that's how some priests get by in delivering last rites to someone who has already passed but it would have to be done in a very timely fashion. Having said all that, I am a lapsed Catholic and catechism was a looooong time ago so I could be wrong.






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(02-16-2016 10:18 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:  
(02-15-2016 01:37 PM)Duchess Wrote:  
(02-15-2016 10:33 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote:  My first thought was...who the fuck declares someone dead over the phone?
Bizarre, isn't it. I've never heard of such thing. You would think it would be standard procedure to at least see the body FFS. I read he was declared dead and there was found to be no reason for an autopsy, yet it was reported that he didn't have a heart attack, simply that his heart stopped beating. How do they know this?

As I understand it, it's allowable to declare someone dead without seeing the body if all evidence points in the direction of natural causes; it sometimes happens in rural areas where it would take a justice of the peace some time to get to the location.

Scalia's family reportedly wanted his body removed from the rural hunting resort and returned to Washington asap. I don't blame them. So, the pronouncing judge called Scalia's doctor who confirmed that he had several chronic conditions, but was too weak for surgery. She also interviewed U.S. Marshals who'd arrived at the resort, by phone, and determined there was no sign of foul play. The family declined an autopsy.

I'm glad the news wasn't leaked and he was removed before a swarm of media arrived at the scene, though it did open the door for a lot of speculation.

I'm waiting for someone to suggest that a liberal gun-grabber sneaked into the resort and smothered staunch second amendment supporter Scalia, probably on orders from Barrack Obama or Hillary Clinton! Smiley_emoticons_wink

He riled people up in life, and he's riling people up in death. But, Scalia appears to have been a very loving and loved family man and friend. It's been interesting reading the tributes and stories from those closest to him. RIP.

Refs:
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/texas-ra...ias-death/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...rgery.html
It gave them time to get any "hookers and blow" evidence out of the room before the media got wind of it.





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Yeah, I've seen that ^ comment under a few news articles too.

Maybe there's more to the story than has been told. Could be.

But, for now, it seems just as likely or more likely to me that he was internally sicker than people outside the family were aware, he died in his sleep, and his family wanted him removed so they could see him as soon as possible and pictures of his dead body didn't end up on the front page of the National Enquirer.





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The funeral of Justice Scalia is being covered by CNN now.

The Basilica of the Natural Shrine of Immaculate Conception in DC is gorgeous.

Aside from his wife, nine children, and 36 grandchildren, 6000 people are expected to attend. Among those will be Vice President Joe Biden, Senator Ted Cruz, and his fellow Supreme Court justices.

Justice Clarence Thomas will speak at the service and Scalia's son Paul, a priest, will conduct the homily.





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The Basilica -

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Now that he's been laid to rest, I think we'll start seeing more pundit pieces covering what many see as Scalia's destructive and regressive impact on the country.

I think the vacant Justice chair is now one of the most important factors in the 2016 presidential race. If Democrats win the White House and replace Scalia with a progressive or even moderate Justice (and especially if Ginsburg, Kennedy and/or Thomas also leave the court during the Democratic president's term), it would likely be at least a decade before a majority conservative-leaning court would be a possibility.

Scalia's critics opposed the obvious influence his religion played in his decisions, his orginalist interpretation of the Constitution, and his aggressiveness. His fans, like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, praise him for those very attributes.





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From The New Yorker, op/ed by Jeffrey Toobin

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...it was in his jurisprudence that Scalia most self-consciously looked to the past. He pioneered “originalism,” a theory holding that the Constitution should be interpreted in line with the beliefs of the white men, many of them slave owners, who ratified it in the late eighteenth century. During Scalia’s first two decades as a Justice, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist rarely gave him important constitutional cases to write for the Court; the Chief feared that Scalia’s extreme views would repel Sandra Day O’Connor, the Court’s swing vote, who had a toxic relationship with him during their early days as colleagues. (Scalia’s clashes with O’Connor were far more significant than his much chronicled friendship with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.)

It was not until 2008, after John G. Roberts, Jr., had succeeded Rehnquist, that Scalia finally got a blockbuster: District of Columbia v. Heller, about the Second Amendment. Scalia spent thousands of words plumbing the psyches of the Framers, to conclude (wrongly, as John Paul Stevens pointed out in his dissent) that they had meant that individuals, not just members of “well-regulated” state militias, had the right to own handguns. Even Scalia’s ideological allies recognized the folly of trying to divine the “intent” of the authors of the Constitution concerning questions that those bewigged worthies could never have anticipated.

His revulsion toward homosexuality, a touchstone of his world view, appeared straight out of his sheltered, nineteen-forties boyhood. When, in 2003, the Court ruled that gay people could no longer be thrown in prison for having consensual sex, Scalia dissented, and wrote, “Today’s opinion is the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.”

Scalia helped gut the Voting Rights Act, overturn McCain-Feingold and other campaign-finance rules, and, in his last official act, block President Obama’s climate-change regulations. Scalia’s reputation, like the Supreme Court’s, is also stained by his role in the majority in Bush v. Gore. His oft-repeated advice to critics of the decision was “Get over it.”


Full op/ed piece: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/0...g-backward





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