SUPREME COURT: JUSTICE SCALIA DEATH AND SCOTUS CHANGES

[Fry Guy]

Own your shit, Mags.  People can remember or read back three posts ya know.

You absolutely introduced Nassar, of all people, into the discussion about a man who you believe was wrongly accused and became a victim of women's movements and mobs of Democrats.

That was strange enough on its own.  Then, you claimed that Nassar's victims traded the molestation for personal/professional gain, like you believe Weinstein's accusers did.  

I was responding to what YOU actually posted, not something I made up or something that 'the left' whispered in my ear.  That's a fact, regardless as to whether it gets under your skin.

And, I don't know any men who would conflate and spin about Nassar and his young victims like you did, including any of the men here at Mock.  

So, I've not now (nor have I ever) lumped all men into the bottom of the barrel.  That too is a fact, no matter how you attempt to deflect.

The 'honey bunch' and 'Jerry' shit is silly troll material, but I don't attribute that to you being a man.  That's just you being you, which is normally not so bad.   

Own your shit, you demented immoral slimeball. He never once said that the victims deserve the trauma and never once said those kids were "Nassar's victims traded the molestation for personal/professional gain". Never once said. Shit, Duchess said you never lied. It is not even possible for a thinking person to honestly make that connection. He DID lament that the gold medals were obviously more important. Did he say they were more important to the victims? Did he blame the 300 victims. Be very fucking clear with your accusations Snowflakes because it looks from my vantage that he is not talking about kids keeping this hush hush or trading off gold medal success but the adults and suggests that more WOMEN (not kids...you know the difference don't you? Not rhetorical) ought to be be louder and stand up against this. (Personally I think men and women but sure women too)

So why are you being immoral and dishonest pretending he is blaming the abused kids? That is kind of sick. You are not stupid so why are you pretending you misread this or did not comprehend this?

Your feigned victim routine is lame Mags.

We're responding to what YOU posted. Period.

And, my response to what you posted regarding Nassar would obviously (as reflected in previous related posts) have been the same no matter whether it was written by a man, a woman, a Democrat, a Republican, a liberal, a conservative, an independent or anyone else.

Your righteous indignant and faux moral superiority act is bullshit and slimy. Why are you immoral and slimy?

Come on Mags.  

I'm debating the points of what YOU posted and you're playing 'male victim' and acting as if you never said it.  The only display of tender sensibilities (or anything like that, at least) is coming from you.

Here's what you posted, again:
The womans movement is great and it did put Nassar away after diddling 300 Olympiad hopefuls. Even though they did report the findings the hope of getting a gold medal was more powerful. Much like a starlet lettin Weinstien use his power to get sex. Why didn't they report him? Because the end product would be worth it. I believe 98% of men are respectful of women but thats my belief. Hopefully more women stand up and voice their outrage louder in the future. 

You reference 300 Olympiad hopefuls and say that getting a gold medal was more powerful than reporting being molested/assaulted (or 'diddled', in your mind).  No mention of 'adults' or 'grown ups'.

You do not mention the girls' parents, who you later claimed you were clearly blaming in that post instead of the girls (though the parents were conned and victimized as well).  

You do not mention the Olympic and University staff or any other adults who received dozens of reports about Nassar and either didn't investigate enough to know he was lying or looked the other way, though you now claim you were clearly blaming 'adults' or 'grown ups' in that post.

You only mention the Olympiads and compare the situation to starlets who you insist 'let Weinstein get sex from them' in exchange for rewards and then lied about it. How does that relate to Nassar and his victims?

No, no, no...don't pretend to be confused, you bullshit artist.

He mentions the women's movement and how he likes them.
He mentions that they helped the girl's by putting away a creep that molested 300 Olympian hopefuls.
He mention that even they did report the findings BUT the hope of a gold medal was more powerful.
He likens it to not looking out well enough for victims like starlets allowing Weinstein use them for a reward.
However he doesn't believe all men are like Weinstein or Nassar and indeed he believes 98% of men are not that way inclined
He hopes more women stand up and express outrage at things like this.

From start to finish he is talking about the women that both condemn and facilitate this kind of carry on and his hope that future situations like this will be empowered by the kinds of women (women's movement that DOES stand up and does not let things go because someone is famous). Women collectively protecting women he obviously places some store in.

THAT is a narrative flow. For you to pretend differently you have to imagine (no you do not believe this and do not pretend you do) :

He mentions the women's movement and how he likes them.
He mentions that they helped the girl's by putting away a creep that molested 300 Olympian hopefuls.
He mention that even findings were reported the hope of a gold medal was more powerful for the 300 Olympians...to not report?.
He likens it the Olympians being victims like starlets allowing Weinstein use them for a reward?
However he doesn't believe all men are like Weinstein or Nassar and indeed he believes 98% of men are not that way inclined
He hopes more women stand up and express outrage at things like this.

Which makes NO fucking sense and never did and you know that as well as I.

And, you implore more women to speak up louder in the future as if their previous silence makes them culpable and despite the fact that you're always the first to insist the alleged victims are lying, they're groupies, they're just gold-diggers, they're political operatives, they're vindictive, etc.

You (and you're far from alone) are an example of why so very many women and minors didn't speak out for so long.

That's the mindset you express consistently across related cases and threads. I don't think there's much hope of changing your mindset and I'm not trying to do so.

But, at least you can stop pretending that you're being attacked (for political motives) here for things you didn't say when you obviously said them or didn't make your point clear at all. People always get called out here and elsewhere for not owning their shit.

I'm not angry about it or residing in some 'grey area'. However, it would be nice to have a rational discussion, debate or argument based on what was actually said about the topic at hand, without all the personal denials and spin/rhetoric.

EVERYONE who knows and does not speak up IS culpable. Those that speak up do a good thing but you are not dishonest enough to say that everyone who does not speak up is a victim, are you? You are not saying that everyone who speaks up do so as soon as they can? How long has the casting couch been around? Great that people eventuially spoke up and in number. that is nece4ssarily a good thing BUT how long was it around and why did it take so long for people to speak up and why did it have to be victims speaking up? Why not the Meryl Streeps and Dame Judy Denchs and the Helen Mirrens and such speaking out?

However it is also very true that even IF there is a power imbalance or bad optics, sometimes there are people who are amoral, immoral, groupies, players and users. Both males and females. Sometimes women CAN use men and visa versa. Sometimes people are right when they say "That person did it for X reasons".

I think it's good to stay informed, care passionately about our country, speak up or protest, vote, and otherwise be engaged. Those are the productive ways to help affect positive change.

Except you don't. You spin bullshit on the internet. There is nothing clever, moral, noble or meaningful that you do.