10-10-2018, 04:53 PM
(10-10-2018, 10:47 AM)sally Wrote: Maybe its because im not an asshole.
(10-10-2018, 10:47 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:(10-10-2018, 10:37 AM)Maggot Wrote: See, that's what i was saying the same with Wienstiens victims. They were passive because the end result would be good for their careers. A person in power using that power to manipulate. I'm just surprised you would think I was trying to say what Nassar or Weinstien did was OK. I'm not that much of a nitwit and will just move on and forget about it. Sometimes you just read into things to much.
I didn't think you were saying that what Nassar and Weinstein did was okay Mags.
Your sentence wasn't clear and I'm sorry if I misinterpreted it to suggest the girls themselves let it happen in order to win gold. That's the only implication whereby your comparing Nassar's case to Weinstein's (who you think was given sex by his alleged victims in exchange for reward) makes sense.
I disagree with what you actually meant, as well. I do not believe that the parents are to blame. One of the fathers committed suicide after it turned out his daughter was right and he'd believed she just misunderstood the medical technique. The victim impact statements of the other parents are very sad to read -- they were completely fooled and carry a lot of guilt.
Nassar (and any of the officials who intentionally or negligently allowed him to get away with it) are to blame.
And, I still think there's no comparison to Nassar and Kavanaugh.
But it is completely fine for him to believe the parents ought to have known and ought to have done more and that going from 0 victims to 300 victims without an adult jumping in to their defence is a hard pill to swallow. Sounds suspiciously to anyone who is a little bit honest, that this is (rightly or wrongly with the facts) someone who cares that these poor kids were victims.
So with that base level of understanding what do YOU do? You accuse him of supporting child molestation and being a rape apologist.
Immoral, slimy and dishonest. Why are you immoral, slimy and dishonest?
Did you at ANY stage say "Well I know Maggot seems to be saying (above) that he supports "the women's movement" and seems she dislikes seems to indicate that holding a gold medal or child molestation is bad. God knows he has never seemed to indicate that rape is good or children should be molested. So I am going to clarify exactly what he means BEFORE accusing him of being a supporter of child molestation and rape"?
It was not an unclear reading and you were not mistaken as to the context. You weren't, because you are not stupid. Therefore you did it deliberately.