07-30-2018, 07:52 AM
Yes. See the big problem I see is people have become polarised.
I have always been a Liberal. Slightly Left of Centre. Not an Authoritarian or a "Progressive". Allow all arguments and the good ones will stand the scrutiny of opposition. Also to be open-minded to possibilities outside of your own experience. Unfortunately, this thinking was used as a gateway for the "progressives" to come in and push their rigid and nonsensical ideas and "other" those that did not. Then they proclaimed themselves Liberals and the Left bowed to them. Now some people who claim to be Liberal are for all intents and purposes Progressive. Maybe not as Socialist as Bernie or that new lady from New York But by the standards of the Left 5 years ago, absolutely Leftist NOT Liberal.
The Western World being led in the Americas by Obama and in Europe by Merkel was going nowhere good. All the Western countries fell in line. Media fell in line. Academia fell in line. Corporations fell into line. Slowly they started branching into culture and such too. No one could have stood up to that.
Then along came Trump and threw a hand grenade into that.
He is boorish, inarticulate and gives no fucks for decorum. He is rude, incendiary and refuses to observe protocols. There is no poise or grace in the man. But he is the right man for the exact situation here and now. Nothing more or less than him would have made a difference.
He IS making a difference too. The right people are angry with him and/or intimidated by him.
He is making differences believed impossible for the economy
Whilst everyone swore he would cause world war three with North Korea, how is that doing? US veteran remains being returned, hostages being returned, nuclear site deactivations.
NATO allies now helping pay to defend against Russia
Instead of sending blankets and socks to Ukraine like President Obama did when Russia annexed Crimea, Trump sent weapons to the Ukrainians to help them defend against Russia
Obviously Presidents come and go and there are a lot of checks and balances and such. Hell, who really knows what the state of the Senate or House will be post-Midterm elections. Or who will in 2020?
But either way I think there is a Hell of a lot to go down and a lot of it will not make Trump, but his opponents, look terrible.
I think history will be exceedingly kind to Trump. He will be seen as a flawed hero of sorts. Me? I just would like things pulling closer to the middle. I think I see what he does, rather than the lack of articulation of his words. He is given little credit because of his personality but his actions and achievements are certainly worthy. You CAN'T have one without the other. I am sure it would have been lovely to have had someone with Obama's articulation, poise, wit, timing, grace, manners and establishment support BUT then he achieved little except for killing Osama.
I have always been a Liberal. Slightly Left of Centre. Not an Authoritarian or a "Progressive". Allow all arguments and the good ones will stand the scrutiny of opposition. Also to be open-minded to possibilities outside of your own experience. Unfortunately, this thinking was used as a gateway for the "progressives" to come in and push their rigid and nonsensical ideas and "other" those that did not. Then they proclaimed themselves Liberals and the Left bowed to them. Now some people who claim to be Liberal are for all intents and purposes Progressive. Maybe not as Socialist as Bernie or that new lady from New York But by the standards of the Left 5 years ago, absolutely Leftist NOT Liberal.
The Western World being led in the Americas by Obama and in Europe by Merkel was going nowhere good. All the Western countries fell in line. Media fell in line. Academia fell in line. Corporations fell into line. Slowly they started branching into culture and such too. No one could have stood up to that.
Then along came Trump and threw a hand grenade into that.
He is boorish, inarticulate and gives no fucks for decorum. He is rude, incendiary and refuses to observe protocols. There is no poise or grace in the man. But he is the right man for the exact situation here and now. Nothing more or less than him would have made a difference.
He IS making a difference too. The right people are angry with him and/or intimidated by him.
He is making differences believed impossible for the economy
Whilst everyone swore he would cause world war three with North Korea, how is that doing? US veteran remains being returned, hostages being returned, nuclear site deactivations.
NATO allies now helping pay to defend against Russia
Instead of sending blankets and socks to Ukraine like President Obama did when Russia annexed Crimea, Trump sent weapons to the Ukrainians to help them defend against Russia
Obviously Presidents come and go and there are a lot of checks and balances and such. Hell, who really knows what the state of the Senate or House will be post-Midterm elections. Or who will in 2020?
But either way I think there is a Hell of a lot to go down and a lot of it will not make Trump, but his opponents, look terrible.
I think history will be exceedingly kind to Trump. He will be seen as a flawed hero of sorts. Me? I just would like things pulling closer to the middle. I think I see what he does, rather than the lack of articulation of his words. He is given little credit because of his personality but his actions and achievements are certainly worthy. You CAN'T have one without the other. I am sure it would have been lovely to have had someone with Obama's articulation, poise, wit, timing, grace, manners and establishment support BUT then he achieved little except for killing Osama.