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EXERCISING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT
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HairOfTheDog Offline
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RE: EXERCISING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT

Most of what you wrote is factually just wrong and a total of crock of shit, sally.

But, you do that a lot when it comes to women in general. I always assume you're trolling or just looking to score points with certain types of men by minimizing women.

Either way, meh.





01-21-2017 11:39 PM
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RE: EXERCISING YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT

What was factually wrong?





01-21-2017 11:44 PM
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I'm genuinely curious to know what was wrong and a crock of shit. Was it that all women should take more responsibility for their bodies? Was it that there are other community health centers that offer women's health services? Was is that women will still be able to get abortions, although maybe not as easily. Yeah well cry me a river. So what was it that was factually wrong?

Also you think I'm trying to score points with the men lol. I think you're the damn troll.





01-22-2017 12:09 AM
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(01-21-2017 11:44 PM)sally Wrote:  What was factually wrong?

Well, Trump can't threaten to take away equal pay because equal pay doesn't exist yet.

And, it's not 'about time' bitches start taking responsibility for themselves. By and large, bitches are already taking responsibility for their own bodies, birth control, and reproductive decisions. Teen pregnancies are lower than ever, as are surgical abortions across all age groups.

For some, Planned Parenthood clinics are the best and most/only accessible option. PP provides quality women's health and family support services which both Democrats and Republicans agree should continue to be budgeted and funded by the government.

Sure, that funding could got to county health services, but it's very hard to believe that the quality and efficiency of service would be as high for the same money. More importantly, why should Planned Parenthood be punished for providing high-quality services just because they also provide (private-pay, not government-funded) abortion services when abortion is legal in this country?

Attempting to shut Planned Parenthood down because they also provide (private-pay, not government-funded) legal abortions is just political bullshit to restrict women from exercising their legal rights; bullshit primarily pumped by people who want to restrict others on religious and moral grounds.

Anyway, a very small percentage of Planned Parenthood patients actually get abortions, which doesn't mean that very small percentage of women (and their male partners, when involved) is made up solely of irresponsible bitches.

ETA: And, you're wrong -- it would undoubtedly be much harder for women to get abortions if Planned Parenthood is shutdown -- that's the whole political point. PP is the sole provider in many areas across the country.





01-22-2017 12:11 AM
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They're not shutting them down, they're just de-funding it. If they're abortions are private pay anyway, what's the difference? For all the other services women can just go to the health department like I said.

You can probably find the facts faster than me, but I'm almost certain (other than abortion) that health departments provide significantly more health services to women and children than planned parenthood.





01-22-2017 12:23 AM
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On the other hand abortion prices will go up because planned parenthood is no longer getting rich and some women will resort to other means of abortion. That's not good either.





01-22-2017 12:46 AM
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More than 90% of the public specialized services PP provides are women's health and family support services via government funding. A very small portion of their business is private abortions, but they are one of very few abortion providers in this country.

The PP organization couldn't likely stay afloat on private abortion services only, sally. That's the sole reason the religious and far right is always pushing to defund PP's separate public health services - they want to put PP out of business because PP is the biggest of the few abortion providers. The far right politicians want to make it difficult for some and impossible for others to access legal and professional abortion services.

Even if you take the private-pay abortions out of the equation, as I said, pushing specialized women's/family clinic care into the overburdened snail-paced county general systems would, in my experience and opinion, be a bad business decision in terms of quality and cost (a bad decision driven only by the desire of some to push their religious and moral mandates onto others).





01-22-2017 01:27 AM
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Aren't the ones who were selling fetal tissue on a massive scale?





01-22-2017 01:32 AM
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No. It's not on a massive scale. PP sells fetal tissue for life-saving procedures and research, in accordance with federal law. They only charge for reimbursement of the cost of the transactions; there is no profit involved. The only tissue that is sold comes from the fetuses of women who decided to donate it rather than have it tossed in a dumpster.

The people who made the PP sting video and then edited and distorted the content to falsely claim that PP was ripping late term fetuses apart to profit from selling baby parts were indicted and charged for their illegal fraudulent actions. That doesn't stop some anti-abortion politicians and activists from repeating those false claims, but the claims were in fact proven false by investigators and PP was cleared of any wrong-doing.





01-22-2017 01:39 AM
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I don't know what happened to my reply.....i type in the dark and i think i must hit the delete key a lot by mistake.

Just a comment on PP....even some Trump supporters who are patients of PP are upset that Trump now wants to defund it as that is their choice for health care so apparently they were there at the Women's March to protest this issue. This means the right wing wants PP to just disappear IMO...The thing that bothers me most is that the right wing religious zealots , bible thumping self righteous jerks want PP to go away because they mistakenly think that abortions are the only function of PP (it is closer to 3%)..and some of these jerks even think that providing birth control encourages sexual behavior on the part of teens...take the judgement out of it and be realistic about teen sexual behavior....
Abortions over the last two decades have decreased in number thanks to organizations like PP...they disseminate birth control to those people who seek it....that is a good thing.....especially to those of you who complain about paying tax money to welfare mothers....the services provided by PP actually help prevent these pregnancies....yes, I know some women get pregnant deliberately to get on the welfare program, but attention to fraud has improved....





01-22-2017 02:31 AM
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What is the life saving procedures?





01-22-2017 02:42 AM
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*I need to correct above number of agents killed in line of duty...i typed 17 and it should have been 117....sorry.....

Also former CIA Director Brennan said he was deeply saddened and angered for Trump's despicable display of self-aggrandizement in front of CIA's Memorial Wall of Agency heroes and like, I already stated above, Trump should be ashamed of himself...

I have never been so ashamed of a President before and this man is going to cause something bad to happen...I can feel it....I hope not before they impeach him......





01-22-2017 02:43 AM
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Sorry Hanoi Hill not gonna happen, go in your safe space, cuddle with that awesome puppy and let the rest of us pull America up by its bootstraps.





01-22-2017 02:52 AM
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"Big" (really little) Mark


I would be very careful about referring to Vietnam in your message to me.....I lost too many friends there and I find you to be very insulting, especially to women. What the hell do you know about Vietnam, anyway, jerk?





01-22-2017 03:05 AM
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