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KAEPERNICK SUES FOR COLLUSION
#61
Maybe they should start playing flag football.
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#62
I don't know if Geragos' prediction is based on inside knowledge, or if it's an attempt to lure a team to sign Kaepernick if the owner(s) fear there's proof of collusion.

He told Adam Carolla yesterday that he expects a new deal for his client at some point in the next 10 days.

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Geragos said that over the past few weeks, it's become even more clear that owners are colluding against Kaepernick.

Geragos said he believes there's at least seven teams that would make sense for Kaepernick.

"There are at least seven teams I can pick off that probably should sign Kaepernick to a two-year deal and then they can just step on my neck and make the collusion case go away," the lawyer said.

If Geragos is right, the drama surrounding Kaepernick's time as a free agent could soon be coming to an end.


Story: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colin...mminently/
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#63
If a team signed him and kept him on a bench it would be just like a freak show that would earn that team more money.................just sayin.
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#64
Any team that signs him is probably going to see a drop in attendance, which means lower revenue. Given that, maybe Cleveland signs him. They are terrible, attendance might already be down, and they need a quarterback.

If they do sign him, they should sign Ray Rice too. They're going to be in a media firestorm anyway, so why not? Build a narrative of giving second chances and see what happens.
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#65


Shiiit. I'd never let a protester or wife beater, or anyone else for that matter, interfere with my football love. There are people out there who are burning their jerseys and season tickets because of the kneeling and other bs. I think that's funny as hell. The NFL already got their money. Ahahaha.
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#66
Well, it's been more than 10 days and Kaepernick has not been signed. So, I guess his attorney Geragos was bluffing or just wrong in his prediction.

I've read and listened to a lot of opinions about Kaepernick's stand (or kneel) over the last month.

I understand why some people side with the team owners, attributing their positions to business (revenue) impacts. I also understand why some people consider social protest (when they don't see/experience the problem) as unpatriotic when it involves a flag or an anthem. It's much harder for me to understand why some people, albeit fewer, think Kaepernick is just an insincere asshole who's looking for attention.

In any case, the more I listen and learn, the more I hope Kaepernick has a chance to play again. Whether he gets that chance or not, I support what he's doing and hope he succeeds in affecting positive change.
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Kaepernick was just awarded GQ Citizen of the Year. Good for him. It was interesting reading the statements of some of his high profile supporters. They're not all coming from the exact same place either. https://www.gq.com/story/colin-kaepernic...e-silenced
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#68
I genuinely believe that Kaep is/was sincere in his belief that he could/can effect change by protesting.

The problem for him was that the forum in which he chose to protest was so divisive, that his message was really not even noticed by the majority of white Americans, who simply see him as an asshole disrespecting his country and it’s service members.

I mean, he gew up having a white and black family. If anybody can testify to how ethnicities are treated differently, it would be someone like Kaep.

Unfortunately for him, because he was the first to kneel, the majority of the focus remains on him, even though he hasn’t played this year.

I doubt he ever will play in the NFL again, but I hope that doesn’t stop him from advocating his beliefs.
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#69
(11-13-2017, 02:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: not even noticed by the majority of white Americans, who simply see him as an asshole disrespecting his country and it’s service members.


I view those people as the alpha stoopids. I do. They try like hell to make it be about what they want it to be about and not about what they have repeatedly been told what it is about and they flat out refuse to accept it. They just flat out refuse and they then become argumentative when an attempt is made to once again explain it to them.

I'd get an F for that paragraph if I were being judged on how well I put it together. Jesus.
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That picture of Colin looks like a white dude wearing a 'fro wig...just sayin'.
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#71
(11-13-2017, 02:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I genuinely believe that Kaep is/was sincere in his belief that he could/can effect change by protesting.

The problem for him was that the forum in which he chose to protest was so divisive, that his message was really not even noticed by the majority of white Americans, who simply see him as an asshole disrespecting his country and it’s service members.

I mean, he gew up having a white and black family. If anybody can testify to how ethnicities are treated differently, it would be someone like Kaep.

Unfortunately for him, because he was the first to kneel, the majority of the focus remains on him, even though he hasn’t played this year.

I doubt he ever will play in the NFL again, but I hope that doesn’t stop him from advocating his beliefs.
He certainly seems to find a way to stay in the headlines. Good for him. Everybody needs to eat and his talents as an NFL QB isn't paying any bills this year. I don't think I've ever seen anyone go from hero to zero so quickly.
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#72
(11-13-2017, 02:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I doubt he ever will play in the NFL again, but I hope that doesn’t stop him from advocating his beliefs.

I'm a little more optimistic for some reason; 5050 chance he'll play again.

One thing that's been interesting to me in reading and talking to people..........almost everyone who thinks Kaepernick is an unpatriotic asshole or insincere attention-seeker say he sucks on the field.

Almost everyone who thinks he's simply bad for business + people who support him and believe he should be playing, on the other hand, say he's better than most of the 90 quarterbacks playing and cite stats.

I don't think he's a zero or low performer based on the 2016 statistics I've read.
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#73
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When compared to both starters and backups the trend is very clear: Kaepernick’s stats are stronger than many men who are scheduled to suit up this season. His completion percentage of 59.2 percent is higher than Jay Cutler, Blake Bortles, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Cam Newton. His completion percentage also compares favorably against backups, as only Case Keenum, Matt Barkley, and Trevor Siemian recorded better percentages while appearing in at least six games.

In 11 games Kap’s total yards (passing and rushing) sum out to 2,709, which is higher than only Cutler when compared to all starters. But when that number is compared to all backups, he put in the third highest total in yards behind only Siemian and Brock Osweiler, both of whom played in three more games. When it comes to the rushing aspect of that tabulation only Tyrod Taylor earned more yards on the ground than Kaepernick last season.

Another interesting stat comparison comes in the form of touchdown to interception ratio. Kapernick ended 2016 with 16 touchdowns and four interceptions, doing so without a “star” receiver on the roster. His touchdown to interception ratio is among the best in the league, regardless of starter or backup. Only Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, and Derek Carr have a better TD-INT ratio in 2016. All of them played at least four more games than Kaepernick last season.


More stats and graphs: http://www.complex.com/sports/2017/08/ka...-breakdown
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#74
(11-13-2017, 05:16 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(11-13-2017, 02:37 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I doubt he ever will play in the NFL again, but I hope that doesn’t stop him from advocating his beliefs.

I'm a little more optimistic for some reason; 5050 chance he'll play again.

One thing that's been interesting to me in reading and talking to people..........almost everyone who thinks Kaepernick is an unpatriotic asshole or insincere attention-seeker say he sucks on the field.

Almost everyone who thinks he's simply bad for business + people who support him and believe he should be playing, on the other hand, say he's better than most of the 90 quarterbacks playing and cite stats.

I don't think he's a zero or low performer based on the 2016 statistics I've read.
It's 2017 now and he doesn't have a job in the NFL. In 2013 he was a hero and being compared to Russel Wilson. Where's Russel and where's Kaep? Hero to zero.
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#75
I was talking about his performance on the field in his last season, Gunnar. But, I also don't think he's a zero or lowly on a personal level either. Differences of opinion is all.
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#76
(11-13-2017, 05:43 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I was talking about his performance on the field in his last season, Gunnar. But, I also don't think he's a zero or lowly on a personal level either. Differences of opinion is all.
If he was worth a crap he'd be on the field. I know plenty of niners fans who share in my opinion of Kaep pre-2013 season vs Kaep post-2013 era. Had you seen it, you wouldn't be wasting your time defending him. That playoff loss broke his back. Prior to that game he was dynamic and an up and coming Superbowl caliber QB. After that loss he didn't do squat. It's like he just quit. The guy used to be a lot of fun to watch, but he just lost his competitive edge for whatever reason. I haven't seen the stats you speak of from 2016 (nor do I care to, stats can be deceiving) but I'm absolutely certain they pale in comparison to his 2013 stats. I personally thought he would at least land a back up QB position somewhere just based on his speed and agility, but that didn't happen. I'm not making this statement as a personal attack on Kaep, but he truly did go from hero to zero. He had it all 4 years ago and now he's unemployed. If it makes you feel better I will say he went from hero to unemployed?
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#77
I like the statistic called QBR, Total Quarterback Rating.

It’s different than passer rating, which simply looks at completions, yards, TD’s and INT’s.

It measures ALL of a quarterbacks contributions to winning, including his rushes, turnovers (fumbles) and penalties.

In other words, if it’s 3rd and 10 and a QB completed a pass for 7 yards, his team punts, but his Passer Rating goes up.

QBR tried to incorporate EVERYTHING a QB does and how it impacts the game in that moment.

So, that being said, Kap had the 23rd highest QBR last year (out of 30 ranked by ESPN).

Sam Bradford set an NFL season completion percentage record in 2016, however he was ranked the 17th best QB by QBR.

BTW, Case Keenum in 2016?

30 out of 30.

Here’s our top 10 in 2017 right now:

1.Deshaun Watson
2. Dak Prescott
3. CASE FRIGGIN’ KEENUM
4. Carson Wentz
5. Tom Brady
6. Aaron Rodgers
7. Kirk Cousins
8. Alex Smith
9. Drew Brees
10. Matt Ryan

Watson and Rodgers are hurt or they would’ve led their teams to the playoffs I believe, which leaves only Cousins as the QB whose team probably won’t make the playoffs on this list.

I know, Cowboys and Falcons aren’t locks, and with Zeke our, it looks rough for the Boys.

The surprise on the list is obviously Keenum. A career backup playing out of his mind.
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#78
Here's a 2016 49'er stat that puts it in perspective a little more: 2-14.

He couldn't win football games, and that's part of what your job is when you are a team leader. That's why he was benched, and that's why he's not playing. In the 12 games he started, they won once. His total career record as a starting quarterback is 28-30. If he was a winner, someone would take a chance on him. But he's average, comes with significant baggage, and what team needs that?

Colin Kapernick sabotaged his own career by choosing protest over playing. I respect the hell out of the fact he was willing to do that because he believes in the cause that much. But let's be honest, his talent wasn't going to overcome the protest. He just isn't that good of a QB.

Is he better than some quarterbacks playing in the NFL this Sunday? Sure. He's also a lot worse than many of them. Why there is so much hype around a lower tier QB is just crazy to me.
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#79
Jimbone, it’s okay to admit that the players around Kaepernixk have gotten worse over the last couple of years.

W’s & L’s aren’t solely on the QB, you know that.

However, he’s not a prototypical QB that is a passer first.

His throwing motion is long and ugly, and it’s really never gotten any better mechanically.

Not sure how adept he is at reading defenses, but my guess is, a ton of his success can be attributed to athleticism and improvisation.
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#80
(11-13-2017, 06:50 PM)Jimbone Wrote: Here's a 2016 49'er stat that puts it in perspective a little more: 2-14.

Why there is so much hype around a lower tier QB is just crazy to me.

I read your full post and understand what you're saying Jimbone.

But, for me, what you wrote puts Kaepernick's comparative individual QB performance, which is what I posted about, into less perspective.

It's a team sport and every player has a part in the team's wins and losses, no doubt.

And, I know the QB is absolutely key to the team, no argument there. But, an A+ quarterback who throws precision strategic passes to teammates who consistently fail to follow-through and score............ is likely going to end the season with a losing team record.

Just like a C+ quarterback who's fortunate enough to be surrounded by the most superb offensive and defensive teammates -- teammates who consistently turn nothing into something -- is likely going to end the season with a more winning team record than the A+ quarterback (which doesn't make the C+ quarterback a better individual player).

Anyway, I'm not saying the owners don't have the right to choose the players they want and don't want, and I'm not insisting that the owners colluded to blackball Kaepernick (I have no way of knowing).

What I am saying is that Kaepernick's individual performance alone does not suck and is not THE reason he's not playing. It seems clear to me that he is, in fact, a better quarterback statistically than many first and second string quarterbacks on the field.
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