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8 year old kills himself with an Uzi
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Howard_hopkinso Wrote:So you're seriously telling me that all the school shootings, deaths and destruction are an acceptable cost of the freedom to bear arms?

I had you figured for an intelligent man. Clearly I was badly mistaken.
I am telling you that firearms are not the cause of those problems, and banning the legal ownership of firearms is a very dumb thing to do as far as the long-term principles of freedom are concerned.

If you knew what the Founding Fathers warned about and had an appreciation of the role of firearms in regard to liberty, you would understand that your position is the classic textbook position of ignorance as you put transient causes and emotional remedies before the principles of freedom.

You don't take away a basic right and a key part of freedom because some people abuse things. We wouldn't have any rights left if people could just point to abuses and misuses as a reason to get rid of them. That is not what vigilantly guarding freedom and keeping the balance of power with the People is all about.

You really don't understand ... once you let a centralized power take your income, your personal arms, and go to fiat money ... you are begging to say goodbye to freedom ...


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