HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

[pyropappy]

The posts here are on-topic as it stands, pappy.

You did in fact make direct claims that Hillary Clinton lied to the American people in regards to Benghazi, and you compared the Ambassador's and CIA actions in Libya to Iran-Contra (inspiring my question about Qatar - which is not a straw-man argument by any reasonable interpretation, but it doesn't matter). Moving on....

You brought up Benghazi and it is a relevant current topic in relation to Clinton since she'll be appearing before Gowdy and the House Committee again in October, and due to the related email/server investigation.

I've followed Benghazi in the aftermath of the tragic attacks. After 2 years of investigation by multiple agencies and grilling by congresspersons, here are the top level results from the GOP-led House Intelligence Committee Report released in Nov. 2014.

- The CIA and the military acted properly in responding to attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees. The CIA operatives were heroes.

- The allegations that a CIA response team was ordered to “stand down” after the State Department compound came under attack were determined to be false.

- The allegations that a military rescue was quashed were determined to be false.

- The speculation that that Ambassador Stevens and the CIA (for which Doherty was contracting) were involved in a secret operation to spirit weapons out of Libya and into the hands of Syrian rebels were determined to be false.

- The State Department, under Hillary Clinton's leadership, was aware of security concerns in the months leading up to the attacks and did not respond adequately or quickly enough to address those concerns (which I personally hold as a mark against her).

- There were conflicting reports regarding the attackers, activity/protests outside of the complex before the attacks, and many other factors. The possibility of an advance-planned terror attack was not released to the public quickly and Susan Rice continued to push the "Muslim video protest" to the public without mentioning other reported scenarios. However, no intentional deception was proven by anyone in the Obama administration. (I personally think Rice is inept and Obama was wrong in not dumping her.)

I don't believe that the GOP-led Committee would try to cover for wrong-doing by President Obama or Hillary Clinton -- not by a long shot. But, I can imagine many reasons why they might withhold or strategically position findings for other reasons.

If new or incriminating information comes out during the hearings in October, is discovered in the course of the email investigation, or is proven and made available by any other credible means, it may well affect my assessment (and many others') in regards to Hillary Clinton's viability as a presidential candidate.

I consider myself sufficiently informed to develop my own opinions on the topics you threw out, and I have no basis or motivation to compare my level of knowledge or enlightenment to anyone else.

But, perhaps your posts here have inspired some readers to search for information for the first time, and perhaps that will inspire them not to vote for Hillary Clinton. I'm not personally concerned about swaying other people's votes, but I understand that you are and that's certainly not a problem, pappy.

I have said repeatedly you are being lied to. The reports and stories you reference were prepared by the government or filtered through some agency of the government.

The men on the ground 1^st hand account

Why were these men never called to testify? They were there when it happened.

13 Hours

Read their book, and remember even their book was processed through several government agencies before being approved for publishing. Maybe I am an idiot, but I tend to believe 1^st hand accounts over any government report.

I will give you this for free (off topic) during his press conference with Bowe Bergdahl's parents the Great BO {pbuh} said "we leave no one behind". Really?

Back on topic, these men have stated they were told to stand down 3 times. Who do you believe?

From the out set they reported no protests or demonstrations; they said they were under coordinated attack. Hell, the 1^st they heard about a video was when they got to Germany.

They say at the very beginning they requested close air support.

They fought on and off for 13 hours with no close air support. We leave no one behind? Would you be surprised if I told you the DOD has assets in the med ²⁴⁄₇ 365? Fast movers could have been on site in minutes not hours.

Would it surprise you to know JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) has secret base in Africa? Assets could have been on site in an hour or less. Don't take my word for it look it up.

Would it surprise you to know one of the primary functions of all SEALs is that of Combat Controllers? The DOD acted properly?

Combat Controllers

Would it surprise you to know I don't believe one word any politician says?
Either aisle; the system is the problem. All congressional committees are a waste of time and money. I am reminded of the old MASH episode about them trying to get an incubator; the general holding the press conference spoke only in military acronyms. The best line from the general: "this is a press conference, the last thing I want to do is answer a bunch of questions." Truer words have never been spoken.

The difference between you and me is I knew these things on September 10, 2012. As the story unfolded I was 99% sure what we were being told was pure bullshit. When I saw the memorial presser at Dover on live TV I was disgusted; I did not need to wait for any report. I could guess the events; my guesses were closer to the truth than all the reports.

I don't know about you but I have buried several friends killed while in service to their country.

Kevin "Kodiak" Lundberg
John "JR" Hunter
Wilson "Sonny" Owens

to name a few. Look them up; see how they died.

Finally, I knew that every story you here on TV or read about in print or online there is a back story. The back story is the truth; that is what you need to look for. It can be elusive as hell some times, but dig till you find it . It will be worth the effort. PM me what you find out about Kodiak, JR and Sonny; I may share some of their back story.

Still want the Hellbitch as commander in chief? Remember this, Ambassador Stevens was her close personal friend; still want her now?